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Sons of Guns
myself | 3/18/2012 | GTV

Posted on 03/17/2012 7:31:19 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote

Anyone else addicted to Sons of Guns?


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Business/Economy; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
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I need to go South!
1 posted on 03/17/2012 7:31:27 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

I like the guns but the acting is only so-so.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 7:32:53 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yeah, I really like it.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 7:33:56 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Why’s that? Those Sons of Guns guys are way up north in Baton Rouge ;-)


4 posted on 03/17/2012 7:34:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Why does everything they shoot, blow up???


5 posted on 03/17/2012 7:34:52 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I used to enjoy it. Then at the end of last season on the chopper mounted gun episode it went off the tracks for me.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 7:35:05 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I don’t guess I have ever seen it.


7 posted on 03/17/2012 7:35:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: mountn man

I think they do that to make the customer happy.


8 posted on 03/17/2012 7:37:11 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Oh yea. Gotta love crazy Cajuns with high explosives.


9 posted on 03/17/2012 7:41:52 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: GlockThe Vote; Lazmataz
Laz.....Would you hit it?


10 posted on 03/17/2012 7:42:22 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: mountn man

Tannerite. It makes range time fun.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: al baby

she is very attractive to me. she is a real female w class, not a fluzy or slut.

he father is my type of guy.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 7:45:43 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: FourPeas

I enjoyed that episode. It would be a pretty cool skill to have.


13 posted on 03/17/2012 7:51:57 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: GlockThe Vote

I really like the show.

I do wonder how long they’ll be able to wing it without a ‘real’ gunsmith since that Vince guy left. Though I don’t like how he went about leaving, I can’t blame him for doing so, because from what we saw on the show, the owner was really treating him like shit. I enjoyed watching him go back in and briefly work during the most recent episode.

The guy that married the owner’s daughter is dumber than a box of hammers, so I’m sure he won’t be the one taking his place. From what I see of the show right now, if I needed a gun worked on, they wouldn’t be on my list of shops I would call. It’ll be interesting to see how it all turns out.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 7:52:50 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GlockThe Vote
Ok show when they are making the guns but for me the drama is way way over blown so I quit watching. It is just a engineering problem to be solved for the builds the rest is just gibberish and a waste of time as far as I am concerned.

It is like OCC I loved to see how they come up with the concepts and seeing them make the build but I can totally do without Sr.'s over the top fit throwing each build. As a matter of fact I got so burned out on Sr that for two years I quit watching totally. I checked out a couple of episodes before the 3 way build off and it was the same old same old with Sr bitching about Jr and he was not even a member of OCC anymore.

So now I DVR American Chopper but FF through OCC parts and watch Paul Jr.s builds for the inovation and problem solving.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 8:00:35 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: GlockThe Vote

Will is an asshat.


16 posted on 03/17/2012 8:06:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mountn man

They put tannerite in it
Tannerites cool but dont blow things up with it, you don’t know where the shrapnel will go.

And dont be idiots like the redhat guys and take that **** to the airport


17 posted on 03/17/2012 8:09:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

These clowns break every rule there is every show.


18 posted on 03/17/2012 8:10:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

LOL. It’s better than watching re runs of mob wives no?


19 posted on 03/17/2012 8:10:52 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: mylife

better than VH1


20 posted on 03/17/2012 8:13:49 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: KoRn

What happened with Vince?
I lost interest in the show ages ago because Will is an asshat
In real life Will lost his FFL because he is an asshat and Vince had to run the company in the interem.
Then I see the show and they say Vince is persona non grata.

Will is an asshat.


21 posted on 03/17/2012 8:15:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Ive never seen Mob wives


22 posted on 03/17/2012 8:17:40 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

VH1 beats MTV!

I havent seen either in decades.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 8:18:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

It’s. Worse than anything you will fathom.


24 posted on 03/17/2012 8:20:24 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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And whos that dingus thats boofin Wills daughter?
I would have givin that guy his walking papers.
He ****s more **** up than you could ponder.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 8:22:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Well, thank God I have the good sense to steer clear of Mob wives!


26 posted on 03/17/2012 8:24:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Interesting weapons. But the notion non military services are getting them for use in civilian venues is not my idea of a good thing.


27 posted on 03/17/2012 8:25:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

That also pisses me off.


28 posted on 03/17/2012 8:26:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Vince left after the owner was being an ass to him, more often than I would put up with. There wasn’t a singular incident that lead to a blow up. I think it was just a cumulative thing over time, and Vince just reached a point to where he had enough.

I just disliked how he went about leaving, though it appeared to be spontaneous. The owner and others were out in Nevada. The owner was abusive to Vince on the phone, so he just up and left without any notice at all. It really put the shop in a difficult spot. If you run a business, I guess it really doesn’t pay to treat your truly talented people like crap. lol At the same time, it probably isn’t good for your future job prospects to quit a job without notice on worldwide television. With his talent though, I don’t think he’ll have a problem at all finding another job gunsmithin’.

lol The Discovery Channel will probably give Vince his own show, or get him to run a shop of his own, and get something like the drama of the American Chopper show going with them having rival gun shops.(that WOULD be some good fun)


29 posted on 03/17/2012 8:30:25 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GlockThe Vote

My favorite show is Pawn Stars.
I just dig it
I always learn shit, and Rick is a gun bug too

They get the coolest guns in there and Rick is always like “I cant wait to shoot this thing”
Then if the thing is iffy he says “OK Chum, test this thing out” LOL

I also like that Rick and the boys are dirt rat bikers at heart.

The old man is a riot as well.


30 posted on 03/17/2012 8:31:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KoRn

As I understand it, in real life Will lost his FFL when he couldn’t account for 10 full autos and Vince had to run the place in the Interim.

The next time I watched Vince is the bad guy and banished.


31 posted on 03/17/2012 8:35:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Red Jacket got their balls in a vice when they pulled a truck load of pyrotechnics up to the curb in the white zone at a airport.

Then they lecture us “don’t try this **** at home kids, we be professionals”

Who is stupid enough to take a truckload of pyrotechnics to the airport?

They make us look bad.


32 posted on 03/17/2012 8:43:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KoRn

Ill say this, a good gunsmith will have no problems finding work
These guys have degrees and are artists to boot, then they have a knowledge of history that’s amazing.
they aren’t just wrench monkeys.


33 posted on 03/17/2012 8:49:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Bottom line..
I think Will is an asshat.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 8:52:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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PS in the interest of full disclosure my real name is Vince ☺
35 posted on 03/17/2012 9:01:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KoRn
The guy that married the owner’s daughter is dumber than a box of hammers.

As an old body and fender guy, with a box full of hammer's, I resent that remark, my hammer's made me a helluva lot of money. end of sarc. ;-)

The show could use a welder, not some Tig Welding Queen. By Welding Queen, I mean someone who just sits on a chair and Tig weld's small part's, i.e., part's less then 3/16." Had they had a certified welder when the were restoring that Mortar Rocket Launcher, they simply get a piece of similar tube / pipe stock, cut & replace, maybe an hour to an hour and half worth of work, with what is called a "Full Penetration Weld."

Using 0.45 to 0.65 Flux Core Wire, with a shielding Gas 75% Argon, 25% Co2. Because of the location of the weld in reference to what would of been needed to be replaced on the Mortar Rocket Launcher, I wouldn't bother to run gas inside the pipe while welding, so as to have a smooth bore. It was so close to the end, that if a smooth bore was necessary, just put it (Mortar Rocket Launcher Tube) on a lathe, cut/clean up the weld (inside the tube) your, done. NEXT (item to be welded)!

36 posted on 03/17/2012 9:11:09 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Stanwood_Dave

lol Maybe you should go and work for them. They could most likely use you!


37 posted on 03/17/2012 9:30:28 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GlockThe Vote

I like the show.But the Owner of the Gunshop is as Narcissistic as hell.Its all about him.Its not about the talented guy’s he has working for him,or even his daughter for that matter.


38 posted on 03/17/2012 9:40:46 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: KoRn

To old and very settled in my home to even think about moving. You might want to e-mail them the Phone Number for the Red Cross, from where I’m watching, they need all the help they can get.


39 posted on 03/17/2012 10:24:12 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: KoRn
This last episode with the Japanese Type 99 auto cannon was interesting on several levels. The Type 99 was a modified copy of the famous Swiss Oerlikon 20mm gun. The Oerlikon was used by both Allies and Axis powers during WW2. The Type 99 came in both flexible and fixed configurations (the show used a fixed, solenoid fired gun). More problematically, the Type 99 came in two distinct versions and ammunition was NOT interchangeable. The Type 99 Mod 1 used 20x72RB (rebated rimless) ammunition and the Type 99 Mod 2 used 20x101RB (rebated rimless) ammunition. The gun could be setup to use 60 or 100-round drums or a belt feeder that replaced the drum and used linked ammunition.

The Type 99, like all Oerlikon guns, does not use a locked breech (like a .50 machine gun). Instead, it uses very heavy coil springs and is blowback operated using advanced primer ignition as an operating principle. TIMING is extremely crucial to the operation of this gun because the chambered cartridge fires as the bolt closes. The inertia of the forward moving bolt and driving springs keeps the breech sealed until the chamber pressure drops to safe levels.

Oerlikon guns, including the Type 99, do not have primary initial extraction (to loosen the fired case in the chamber). Instead, the bolt begins to recoil with a jerk that can, and has, ripped the back off cartridge cases. There are two ways to prevent this: (1) use oil or grease to lubricate the cartridge to prevent sticking (Oerlikon) or (2) cut longitudinal flutes in the chamber mouth to float the front of the cartridge case on burning propellant gas (Tokarev SVT-40 and H&K G3).

There was no discussion on the show of whether the ammunition for the Type 99 was LUBRICATED. If it wasn't there was a good bet that the fired case would have stuck in the chamber and had its case head ripped off. This would not be too much of a problem if only one round was fired, but it would have been a problem for a second round. Unless they were shooting inert TP ammunition, 20mm HE is NOT bore-safe and it could detonate in this kind of jam. Will Hayden was completely right in stopping his guys from firing the Type 99.

Trivia about the Oerlikon guns. It requires approximately 450-500 pounds of force to cock this gun due to its massive springs. On naval mountings, such as the Mk 10 tripod mountings aboard the USS KIDD (DD-661) shown on an earlier program, there was a cocking bar. To cock the gun, the gunner attached the cocking bar to a stud on the side of the gun and jumped up onto the gun's shoulder rests to use his body weight to cock the gun. If he was too small in stature or weight, the loader would push up on the barrel as the gunner was using his weight on the shoulder rests. In the episode with the Type 99, that is the reason why they fitted it with the two long steel bars on the front sides of the gun — to help cock it!

40 posted on 03/17/2012 10:51:58 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Captain Beyond
Well said.
I like the technology - hate the mello-drama.

I pretty much gave up on OCC completely.
41 posted on 03/17/2012 11:04:41 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: mylife

Say what you want about him but ... Will is an asshat. lol


42 posted on 03/17/2012 11:49:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I love the guns but the “drama” made me quit watching. Same thing with Top Shots. Just can’t stand the drama queens!


43 posted on 03/18/2012 2:06:30 AM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Vince is a good gunsmith with a anger management issues.
Very temperamental.Gets upset and starts throwing things around or walking out.
OTHO Kris is a likeable guy with no gunsmithing talent.

I think when Kris and the daughter married Will pretty much stated that Kris was going to be top dog, bypassing Vince.
Can’t blame Vince for traveling.

Don’t know if you’ve watched a new show, Top Guns.
Colby Donaldson , the host of Top Shots, get together with experts and wrings out different guns.
I’ve had reservations concerning Colby but in this show he comes across as a really nice humble guy.
Pits his marksmanship against the guests, and usually loses.


44 posted on 03/18/2012 4:00:50 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: packrat35
Same thing with Top Shots. Just can’t stand the drama queens!

I DVR the show and FF through the fluff.
Makes the show about 30 min. long.

Check out Top Guns, good show w/o all the whining.

45 posted on 03/18/2012 4:04:21 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: KoRn

>>...and Vince just reached a point to where he had enough...<<

They way Will treats his people says a lot about how little-minded he is. He lacks the temperament for the position he has been lucky enough to find himself in.

I see his management style more often that I would like and I’ve (personally) developed a tolerance/immunity to it. I’ve heard that management style called “Lowering The Fences”. Management keeps “lowering the fences” thru piss-poor people management that the best horses start jumping over for greener pastures — leaving the nags who couldn’t clear the top rail.

Hearing about Vince’s leaving (I haven’t watched in awhile). isn’t surprising at all. Hope he gets his own shop — he seemed to have a decent head on his shoulders.


46 posted on 03/18/2012 7:28:14 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: Vinnie

One thing I really like about Top Shots is that they bring back top shooters from Top Gun series like Jaimie and Daryl Parker. Both these guys seem like class acts. Jamie, for example, was a rescue swimmer plus and he was belittled by the seasons ego queens. And Colby has a very likeable personality as he’s humble and loves to shoot. For pure entertainments I watch ‘fps Russia’ on YouTube.


47 posted on 03/18/2012 7:54:37 AM PDT by mcshot (Friends of A. Breitbart concerned by removal of US flags near the Presidential podium.)
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To: mcshot

I’ve seen a few episodes but I don’t watch it as much as I watch Pawn Stars, Auction Hunters, Mythbusters or Weaponology.


48 posted on 06/25/2012 12:18:11 AM PDT by BigWillyG
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To: al baby

She is a cutie, but Paige on the “American Guns” show is HOT! I can only say that because she turned 18 this year.

The fact that her Parent’s raised her to appreciate the Second Amendment and Firearms is a plus, just like the gal on Sons of Guns.

BTW - The Mother on American Guns ain’t bad either. She passed on her “attributes” to the Daughter.

Now I feel like a dirty old man, not that there’s anything wrong with that. I just appreciate Women with integrity. cough, cough...


49 posted on 06/25/2012 12:40:23 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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