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Obama and Martial Law - WHAT IF?.... (vanity)
Self ^ | 3.19.2012 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 03/19/2012 7:27:22 PM PDT by Free Vulcan

There has been a great deal of reaction on Free Republic to the very recent rewrite by the Obama administration of the executive order dealing with National Defense Resources Preparedness, originally signed I believe under Eisenhower, and the small but significant changes in the language. Namely, giving the President, even under peacetime, powers of complete and total nationalization of anyone and anything within the borders of the CONUS.

All of which has brought talk and speculation of martial law by the Federal government as well as both the cancellation of this November's elections and the dissolution of both the U.S. Congress and the SCOTUS. In response to that I would like to propose a series of 'What if?' questions to the above scenario, not only to generate discussion, but also possibly give everyone here some impetus to act in a way using bona fide and existing channels of authority that could challenge Obama should he attempt such actions.

WHAT IF...on January 22, 2013, Barack Hussein Obama continues to hold the seat of power that is assigned under our Constitution as the office of the President and refuses to leave while declaring complete and total control over the entire CONUS and a complete disbandment of the other two branches of government?

WHAT response to such an action a Governor of any of the 50 states as clear indisputable fact that Barack Hussein Obama's term of office has ended, and as such he no long holds the office of President, therefore no longer commands any of the powers that go with that office?

WHAT a conclusion to the above statement, that same Governor declares Obama to be illegally occupying the position lawfully belonging to a President elected by the citizens under the Constitution, therefore committing an act of domestic terrorism against his state and the United States, as is anyone who is acting in support of his actions?

WHAT IF...that same Governor then themselves declares a State of Emergency in response to the imminent threat posed by the illegal usurpation of the office of the President by Barack Hussein Obama and his cohorts, and enacting his emergency power under such a declaration?

WHAT emergency session, the state legislature votes to give the Governor a set of powers in addition to those already in existence in a state of emergency? Namely:

1) Declaring Barack Hussein Obama and his cohorts to be guilty of conspiracy, subversion, and treason in the commission of terrorist acts against the authority and security of said State, the United States, and the Constitution.

2) Declaring any and all federal personnel existing within state boundaries currently giving support to Obama's illegal actions to be part of that terrorist organization and therefore subject to indefinite detainment, arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment, including capital punishment, as well as confiscation and/or destruction of any federal assets used in such actions.

3) Declaring any and all private assets of any said personnel operating in support of the actions of Barack Hussein Obama eligible to be frozen and/or confiscated, including military bases within the borders. Any individual or facility defying that order would be responded to with terminal force, without trial.

4) Declaring all funds paid to the Federal government to be funds in support of a terrorist organization, therefore mandating the cessation of all federal withholding of paychecks and payment of taxes.

5) Declaring all residents of the state who are members of any federal law enforcement or branch of the military, who are in support of Obama's actions, to be terrorists and fugitives of the law, and authorize teams to track them down and bring them to justice, dead or alive.

6) Declaring that any member deemed to be part of the above organization, should they commit an act of aggression against any resident or parcel of territory within the boundaries of said State, will be shot on sight without trial.

7) Releasing all citizens of that state from any claim of authority by the illegal terrorist organization headed by Barack Hussein Obama and indefinitely suspending all Federal, regulatory, police and/or military power over them, including members of the U.S. Military residing within it's borders.

8) Empowering the Governor to raise self-defense militias as well ordering all law enforcement and national guard to seal all possible entryways and arteries into the state from all federal police and military forces.

9) Empowering the Governor to use any and all means to resist and repel any invasion or attempt to occupy any part of the State at any time.

10) Empowering the Governor to hold elections at the mandated day, times and places, and work with other states to attempt to achieve a quorum to reconvene Congress at a secure location.

WHAT IF? a matter of swift action, said Governor executes all the above? What does Obama do then?

WHAT IF? a similar response, the Governors of a number of other states enact similar powers? What does Obama do then?

WHAT IF? communication with the Governors of other States, the Governor of said State signs a mutual defense pact to aid all States within the coalition any and all necessary Means and Aid in support of repelling the terrorist forces of Barack Hussein Obama? What does Obama do then?

WHAT IF? a mutual compact, the various coalition states rightfully hold their elections at the Constitutionally mandated time, and if in quorum, propose a meeting of their duly elected Congress persons within Coalition territory, in a designated Federal zone guarded by U.S. Military assets that uphold their Constitutional oath? What does Obama do then?

WHAT IF?...that same Congress declares the Office of the President vacant, and recognizes the duly elected official present who is highest in the order of secession as the current President?


What is the solution to fighting back? WE ALREADY HAVE THE SOLUTION. The solution is the States. It is imperative that not only do you work and support to get conservative legislatures and Governors within your states, you approach your state representatives NOW and propose that they adopt legislation as outlined above.

It is time to set this fire alight. Force the national conversation on this issue, force it into the news cycle and the talk shows, force the current administration to deal with it. States like Wyoming, Arizona, and others have already either passed or at least initiated legislation on things like secession and federal jurisdiction over 2nd amendment rights – all it takes is one state legislator in any of branches in any the 50 states to introduce legislation as outlined above to bring it front and center.

If we want to stop this, this is where it starts: with the States. Surely with the numbers we have here one of us has the network and contacts to start get some state Representative or Senator to pick up this ball and get it rolling.

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To: BMC1

Plausible scenario. Everything about OWS is anti-American.

61 posted on 03/20/2012 8:19:09 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I have watched the Executive Order martial law threads and noticed the usual litany of doom and gloom, so I thought I’d turn the tables on them a bit.

There’s a good number of people here who aren’t who they say they are and are not remotely conservative. Some have been here a long, long time and they are doing their damn best effort to drag this forum down into a depressed tar pit of hopelessness and resigned fate while working for some other agenda or someone else’s payroll.

Lucky for them it’s not my site because they’d be gone forever, which is not near as much as needs to be done.

63 posted on 03/20/2012 8:44:45 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: moder_ator

Thank you again.

I will try not to call you any more nasty names. :)

64 posted on 03/20/2012 8:56:22 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: muawiyah
A small percentage are actually in DC. That's where you find the guys who break the law.

The local ones work for them, and they're used to taking their orders from them.

65 posted on 03/20/2012 9:09:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DarthVader

You sound like you are writing advertising copy for a star wars episode.

66 posted on 03/21/2012 10:24:44 AM PDT by Eastbound ( 3-7-77)
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To: Eastbound

I know exactly what I am talking about and can back it up with detailed facts not histrionics.

67 posted on 03/21/2012 10:33:00 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: llandres
"If we blow this election with in-fighting and “sitting it out” in protest of whatever nominee, we sign the death warrant for our beloved Republic. It cannot survive a second, unrestrained term of B. Hussein Obama."

I really think we'll be engaged in a domestic war which will involve everyone. Even neighbor against neighbor. Never thought I'd see the day that would happen and always thought 'brother against brother' was just a religious metaphor.

68 posted on 03/21/2012 8:32:18 PM PDT by Eastbound ( 3-7-77)
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To: Eastbound

“I really think we’ll be engaged in a domestic war which will involve everyone. Even neighbor against neighbor.”

I’m not sure the exact scenario you envision, but it’s been clear from the beginning that BHO and his cabal have been working to engender a class war, race war or both.

Never since the 1860’s has our country been so divided, and it’s directly attributable to The Wan’s groundwork, daily actions and speech. He’s anything but a “uniter” as he professed to be.

A lot of us knew him for what he was long before the election and were devastated at the prospects of him as POTUS. It’s why I feel SO strongly that no matter who our nominee ends up being, we’ve just GOT to unite and support him/her to get this poisonous danger to America OUT.

Not one of these candidates has a mission to take our country down and destroy it - not one. The same cannot be said about the current occupier of our WH.

69 posted on 03/21/2012 10:18:30 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: llandres

“Not one of these candidates has a mission to take our country down and destroy it - not one. The same cannot be said about the current occupier of our WH.”

This is true. Mitt will bleed it dry for his Wall Street friends, but even he loves America.

Thanks to all for this thread. At the end of the day, I have faith in my fellow citizens & most of all in our military. 0 & his hoards may try, but they will never succeed.

70 posted on 03/21/2012 11:36:17 PM PDT by KGeorge
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