Skip to comments.Sheriff: Malibu Dishwasher Died Of Upper Respiratory Disease
Posted on 03/21/2012 5:57:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin
MALIBU (CBS) The 32-year-old restaurant dishwasher who was found in a pool of his own blood outside Guidos in Malibu apparently died from an upper respiratory disease, authorities said.
Carlos Ivan Rodas was found dead Sunday night just steps from the door of Guidos in the Malibu County Mart shopping center at Pacific Coast Highway and Cross Creek Road, according to sheriffs deputies and a coroners spokesman.
Rodas death was first reported as a stabbing, then as a brutal beating. Officials later said they believed Rodas died of natural causes, despite the large amount of blood found at the scene.
An official cause of death from the coroners office was unavailable. Sheriffs detectives issued a statement Wednesday, saying they did not believe any foul play was involved and that Rodas died from a respiratory disease.
Sounds like TB. Let’s quarantine Malibu...just to be sure.
Should have gotten a Maytag.
I am all of their customers should show their support and get TB tests
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
Yikes! Thanks for posting. I hope whatever he died from is not contagious. Condolences to his family and friends.
The way things are going we'll be ground zero when the Plague makes its big comeback.
Ping. The dishwasher was found in a pool of blood outside the restaurant. Initially they thought he had been murdered.
“Authorities said the man was covered, from head to toe, in blood.”
Why did CBS report this as a fatal shooting?
Probably because they believed the initial on scene LEO reports and needed a good headline story.
Could it be that Eboli? I understand it makes you bleed from any opening. Soo it is natural cause or murder? someone is covering up here.
Actually, it would benefit us all if it was contagious. Have you ever met a conservative in Malibu?
Oh, of course I want to be on this list, nully!
Interesting variation in the reported cause of death. Did they consider looking for bullet or knife wounds before they reported he’d been shot and/or stabbed?
And you gotta love that “respiratory disease” ...
OK, you’re added!
———upper respiratory disease, authorities said.———
That’s a pretty short list of diseases that can leave a pool of blood covering your entire body
Think I will invest in some surgical mask stock ....
I’m sure this guy had something to do with it:
Based on our most recent cultural norms, I assumed “Malibu Dishwasher” was the victims real name.
He was shot! He was stabbed! He was beaten!
Er, okay... He had a virus!
Which diseases are on that list?
Is this guy stifling a good laugh, or choking back his barf, or what?
Coughing up blood.
Ping to some California Freepers and a few who might travel through California.
News of a fatal respiratory illness in a restaurant worker in Malibu made me wonder about all State and local laws concerning restaurants.
There is no State law requiring food handlers to have a TB test. There is only an advisory which includes an option for low-cost or free TB testing:
Tuberculosis and Food Establishments
The Department of Public Health Tuberculosis Control Program, offers tuberculosis testing and treatment to all persons residing in Los Angeles County at a low cost or for free.
Public health officials have been concerned with the increasing numbers of tuberculosis (TB) cases. Officials hope to decrease the number of TB cases in Los Angeles County by educating the public about the disease, the use of screening tests, and the treatment of cases. One group that is targeted are food workers.
Tuberculosis is not transmitted to patrons through food; however, like any other work place, infectious food handlers may transmit their disease to fellow workers.
TB is caused by a bacterium that in most people remains inactive for years following first infection. In this stage a person harbors the organism in the lung but is not contagious. This is why testing for TB is important. TB may become active and cause a destructive disease of the lungs. In this active stage, a person shows symptoms and can spread the disease.
A worker with active tuberculosis can spread the disease by sneezing or coughing, which are TB's most common symptoms. Daily exposures to an infectious person on the job increases risk of transmission of the disease.
The Department of Health Services, Public Health Programs and Services, offers tuberculosis testing and treatment to all persons residing in Los Angeles County at a low cost or for free.
Public health officials ask that food establishment owners or operators have their employees tested for TB since the disease is curable with proper treatment. For additional information regarding this disease, contact the Los Angeles County Tuberculosis Control Program at (213) 744-6160.
Health Advisory Tuberculosis and Food Establishments
There is a law for food handlers/restaurant workers requiring them to have a California Food Handler Card which shows that they have taken a food handling safety course.
"You will have to take a basic food safety training course with a score of 70 percent or better. The food handler may obtain a California Food Handler Card..."From an earlier story:
PDF file-CALIFORNIA FOOD HANDLER CARD LAW EFFECTIVE DATE: January 1, 2012
"Authorities said the man was covered, from head to toe, in blood."
March 19, 2012: Deputies: Motive Still Unknown In Murder Of Man Outside Popular Malibu Restaurant
March 18, 2012: Man Shot And Killed Outside Popular Malibu Eatery
I,m no doctor, but I did stay at a holiday inn...Once
Couple come to mind....TB, Ebola, Marburg fever
“Er, okay... He had a virus!”
So, viruses have jumped from computers to people? Will Norton keep people from getting sick?
As long as Norton doesn't get a virus.
I appreciate the heads up.
Tuberculosis was all but eradicated in the United States prior to the 1990s. Strangely about the time they decided to open our borders to anyone wishing to live here, incidences of Tuberculosis rose.
This isn’t an attempt to lay all of this at the feet of illegal immigrants, because we had people coming in from all over that were positive for tuberculosis. I know because one such individual came to work in my department, and caused about fifty people there to test positive for the first time in their lives.
My grandmother died of Tuberculosis.
Now while the government goes through SOME motions to assure us everything is okay, they continue to allow too many people to enter our nation.
We are being flooded with terrorist leaning people, people with diseases we shouldn’t be allowing in, and of course the ever present illegal immigrant.
Go about your business citizens. Nothing to see here, move along...
My guess is that it's highly unlikely the man had Ebola.
It is possible that the poor man was coughing so much he burst some blood vessels and bled out. God Bless him, his family and friends.
Bloody sputum can be present in many respiratory illnesses including asthma, bronchitis, pneumonia, Wiskott-Aldrich Syndrome, tuberculosis, etc.
I don't even know if there is a law governing testing legal immigrants prior to entering our country. There is also the increase in International travel. It is unlikely they would stop anyone from boarding a flight here unless they had overt signs of illness.
Yuck. I’m working on San Diego. Too close.
When I lived in San Diego, my friends used to warn me about eating at any restaurants due to rumors of TB infected workers.
Yet I had wrongly assumed that there was a law requiring all food handlers to be TB tested.
Pneumonia would be bad enough and not all cases of pneumonia present with a cough. In this economy and increased job competition, I think it is unlikely that someone would take off work due to illness, especially if they were unaware that they had a contagious illness.
I eat in restaurants daily in San Diego. They did require TB tests for food handlers when I was in high school. I had both the skin test and X ray before I could work at Farrell’s. My lung X ray shows Valley Fever walled off. Amorphous calcification. TB shows circular “punched out” lesions.
That was my first thought....Let’s hope it is the regular kind and not the drug resistant one.If it is the drug resistant one there are a lot of people who have been exposed to it.
The Coming Wave thread, Mother Abigal, Diseases (thanks to James Oscar). Latest posts were discussing Maryland family with respiratory infections, coughing up blood, and dead in a few days.
excerpt: post 271:
Oh I get the thought process...a highly mutagenic virus already spread in diverse populations, consisting of a certain generation of said given virii which will, upon reaching a certain reproductive cycle within the hosts cells, hit that same mutagenic change point seemingly randomly yet mutually at the same time, whereupon they become dangerously pathological in many folks all at once, in many locations all at once.
If there was a law in effect when you worked at a restaurant, I searched for reasons why there is no current law requiring testing.
There are local laws requiring all school personnel and school workers to be TB tested.
The following excerpts are from a 44 page document I found on CDC. Check out the very last paragraph for the big reason they may have eliminated all mandatory TB testing for food handlers.
Tuberculosis Control Laws and Policies: A Handbook for Public Health and Legal Practitioners
As of October 1, 2009
“In California, for example, no person may be employed initially in connection with a park, playground, recreational center, recreational beach, or certain other occupations unless the person has a certificate from within the last two years showing that the individual does not have communicable TB.62”
“In very limited circumstances, public health officials may compel citizens to submit to nonconsensual screening. For example, California law appears to require TB screening for all prison employees who interact with inmates.63”
“15 In 2005, approximately 12.4% of TB patients who were tested for HIV tested positive. An additional 10.6% of patients had unknown HIV status.10 “
“In 2007, among TB patients whose HIV status was known, 11.3% of these individuals were infected with HIV (these data do not include related information from California which has a high incidence of TB compared to other states).10”
“Foreign-born persons living in the U.S. are also at significantly elevated risk for active TB compared to the total population.
In 2007, the TB disease rate among foreign-born persons in the U.S. was 9.7 times higher than among U.S.-born persons. 10 Immigration of individuals from countries with high incidence of TB to the U.S. affects TB incidence domestically.10
In 2007, persons born in Mexico, Philippines, Vietnam, and India accounted for over half of the U.S. TB cases among foreign-born persons.10”
“A. TB Screening
As with other areas of TB policy, TB screening programs require practitioners to develop programs that narrowly achieve public health goals without overly burdening personal liberties.
Mandatory TB screening programs have the potential to infringe on constitutional freedoms as a result of (1) unreasonable searches under the Fourth Amendment or (2) privacy invasions and discrimination under the Fifth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments. Courts have acknowledged the public health importance of screening certain populations (e.g., institutionalized persons) and upheld these programs as constitutional exercises of state power.”
I worked at Farrell’s from Nov 72 to June 73. Enough to cover my senior class expenses (ring, annual, prom, senior dinner).
Pneumonia would be bad enough and not all cases of pneumonia present with a cough. In this economy and increased job competition, I think it is unlikely that someone would take off work due to illness, especially if they were unaware that they had a contagious illness......about ten years ago, my friend who is a doctor, had a Guatamalan patient with HEP something and TB come to him for treatment . She was a waitress, she told him. He immediately forbade her from working and began treating her, first in a hospital and told her to stay home until she could be medically evaluated further. One night he invited some friends and a State Senator to dinner to discuss some Hospital business in the City’s upscalest restaurant. Guess who his waitress was? He shut the restaurant down right there, had the board of health there and hospitalized her until she was pronounced noncommunicable.
Thanks for the note of sympathy. I never knew her because she passed away long before I was born. I share your thought that it would be an unfortunate way to go. I know it had a sad impact on my father and uncle, and of course their dad, not to mention their mom. It is certainly something you wish to avoid having an impact on other families.
The tragic thing is, despite this ‘threat’ to our citizens, our government agencies are still more interested in sacrificing us to the immigration gods, rather than sacrificing access for our protection. That seems backwards to me.
As you mentioned, travel is a risk. It’s still much less of a risk than allowing someone with a full blown case access to our populace here.
Treatment is available, but it’s my understanding that the medication itself is no walk in the park.
Thank you for your comments, note of sympathy.
Thanks for the mention. I suppose man is destined to go through certain times of trouble. I accept that. What I do not accept is our exposure to known death threats by people paid to represent us. US, damn it!
These people are serving anyone but us these days.
It's all the wealthy in Malibu hire. Those people live like kings and queens and hire illegal, low wage peasants.
Oh ouch! LOL!
There is currently an outbreak of Ebola in Uganda of the Sudan variety. So far 14 reported dead. Don’t go to restaurants frequented by Ugandans, especially new arrivals.
There’s an Ebola outbreak in Uganda...
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