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To: WhiskeyX
One of the scenarios to investigate was the possibility of Ann flying with the baby while unaccompanied by the father on a Kenyan birth certificate from Nairobi to London, Salisbury, and Vancouver BC using the child’s UK citizenship to pass customs, and then obtained a Canadian birth certificate and/or received the Hawaiian birth certificate obtained by Madelyn to pass the U.S. Customs at Blaine, Washington on the way to Seattle. Such scenarios would account for the rumors of the existence of multiple birth certificatesw for the child.

I do not accept any theory requiring Stanley Ann traveling to Kenya (or anywhere else for that matter) unless someone can explain how Barrack Obama Sr could pay for such a thing. He was working in the pinapple cannery barely able to make enough money to feed himself and cover his bills, so I don't see him being able to afford transportation back and forth to Kenya. H3ll, he couldn't even afford his OWN passage to Hawaii in the first place!

Also, I don't think there was any customs check between Blaine and White Rock in 1961.

My thinking is that Stanley was sent to live with relatives in Northwest Washington to have her baby, and she took advantage of the free hospital across the border.

111 posted on 03/22/2012 10:27:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Are you suggesting that Ann was never even in Hawaii? Because for her to have not traveled anywhere, she would have had to just stay in Washington the whole time. But that would mean she never even met Barack Sr and so his finances would have nothing to do with anything.

The only other way for her to not have traveled anywhere would be if she moved to Hawaii with her parents and had the baby in Hawaii.

Unless she had the baby in HI she had to have traveled somewhere.

The HDOH manipulating records means we don’t know whether Ann and Sr were actually married. Seems like they were living at different addresses. In any event, the issue could be whether the DUNHAMS could afford to support Ann traveling - either to Washington or anywhere else.

And whether Sr’s parents could afford to send him various places. Remember how we heard initially that Sr’s father was a poor goat-herder, and then it turned out to be that his father was actually quite wealthy? Accepting financial aid doesn’t mean that a person can’t afford something - especially when the person in question is a communist.


116 posted on 03/22/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DiogenesLamp

Airlines were generally not allowed to sell a foreign citizen a oneway ticket, except under certain specific exceptions. Barack Obama Sr. normally would have been required to purchase a roundtrip ticket before coming to the United States. While it is true he did not have enough of his own money to afford that kind of travel, there are a number of possible scenarios in which someone else could have funded his travel, but not his other expenses.

I’ve known other people who spent thousands of dollars of other peoples’ money traveling between continents to satisfy the visa requirements to leave a nation after so mnay days or months, yet slept on other people’s living room couch because they could not afford an apartment or lodging.

It is unlikely that Ann would have traveled with Barack Obama Sr. or had her travel expenses paid by him. Supposedly Ann may have been trying unsuccessfully to (1) gain acceptance into the Kenyan Obama family and/or arrange for the child to be adopted by the Kenyan Obama family. Such efforts did not necessarily require her purported husband to be there when she did so.

Ann’s family may have helped to pay for her trip in the ultimately futile hopes that the Obama family would adopt and raise the child in the father’s Kenyan culture, with or without accepting the mother into the family.


118 posted on 03/22/2012 12:47:03 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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