Posted on 03/22/2012 12:56:37 PM PDT by Morgana
“I’m not an abortion supporter but I wonder how we’d react if an atheist came into a church and started passing out atheist literature. Would the church members not have the right to remove him from the property? Someone explain to me how this is any different.”
Just the fact that they are murdering innocent babies is all.
Wait a second....if you say that about Allah in Canada, you go to jail, or at least get heavily investigated by their Committee for Prevention of Free Speech (or whatever they call it).
Why isn’t the judge in jail with Mary Wagner?
Agreed on that, but both are basically in a place that the owners do not want them in. She can give her message on the public thoroughfares.
I wouldn’t want her or an atheist in my house if I didn’t invite them. Would you?
In a better world, the atheist would be beaten by the parishioners and sent to prison by the judge and the doctors, staff and women having abortions would be convicted of capital murder.
In the face of such evil we all must do something. Deitrich Bonhoeffer stated that “not to act, is to act”.
Do Canadian judges get sworn in? If so, I wonder to what god this judge swore to.
I'm not killing people so there is no real comparison.
“I’m not an abortion supporter but I wonder how we’d react if an atheist came into a church and started passing out atheist literature. Would the church members not have the right to remove him from the property? Someone explain to me how this is any different.”
I go to an ELCA church, so you never quite know, but I suspect knowing a good many of the members there that he’d be invited to fellowship afterward.
No more zealous convert than an atheist.
Ok better still - a representative of Planned Parenthood walks into a pro-life counseling center and starts handing out pro abortion material. And lets say for good measure that it is her sincere and deeply held belief that she is doing good by offering these women a way out of their pregnancy, perhaps she even believes she is in some way serving God. (I agree that she is deceived about her beliefs but that is not the point here)
Does the counseling center have the right to remove her from the property and does the court have the right to jail her if she continues to trespass. And most importantly would you guys defend her right to do so as you have defended this woman.
Well, the scummy dirtbag got one thing right, anyway.
Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,
Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
—The Present Crisis. James Russell Lowell
I could not disagree more. The law must be enforced equally, but never neutrally. Law is the authority of and for the civil magistrate and the civil magistrate is the minister of God (Romans 13). The judge may think he is god, but that matters little to reality. for example I may not believe in gravity after all I cannot see it, and in my disbelief I jump off a tall building. My belief or lack of belief will not matter when gravity propels me to the Earth and I a make an impact. The judge is not above God, he is not a god, he is under God and will answer to Him. His duty is first to God and them to civic law. He may not agree, but one day he will - like or not.
Most of the pro-lifers I know would welcome such a person, and a chance to educate him, as well as the mother. Our arguments are better, as they are true. We generally don’t resort to ad hominems, and completely avoid straw men. As long as the conversation continues, the mother isn’t killing her child.
I’d welcome an atheist in our church passing out literature. It would give Christians an opportunity to show them Christian charity. Divine appointments are a good thing.
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