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LA Basin May Face Summer Power Shortages
CBS) ^ | March 22, 2012 7:58 PM

Posted on 03/22/2012 10:03:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SAN CLEMENTE (CBS) — Parts of the Los Angeles Basin and San Diego could face power shortages this summer depending on whether the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station units remain offline.

“Safety is the top priority during ongoing inspections and testing of the nuclear power plant,” said Steve Berberich, president and chief executive officer of the California Independent System Operator Corp., the grid operator for the majority of California’s electric transmission system.

“Our focus is contingency planning should SONGS remain offline this summer,” he said. “Fortunately, there are resource options available to help mitigate reliability risks. We are actively working with San Diego Gas & Electric, Southern California Edison and others because prudent mitigation planning takes adequate lead time and summer heat is only a couple months away.”

Unit 3 of the plant south of San Clemente has been shut down since Jan. 31, after station operators detected a leak in one of its steam generator tubes. Its two steam generators are undergoing extensive testing and inspections in order to fully assess their condition and the cause of the leak. Unit 2 was taken down for planned maintenance Jan. 9.

Neither unit will return to operation “until we are satisfied it is safe to do so,” said Jennifer Manfre, Southern California Edison’s senior manager of media relations.

Technical studies presented at Thursday’s Cal-ISO board meeting show very tight reserve margins for San Diego and the Los Angeles Basin, especially during potential summer heat waves.

Contingency planning will likely include servicing Huntington Beach Power Plant units previously slated for retirement, accelerating completion of Barre-Ellis & Sunrise Powerlink transmission projects, re-activating the 20/20 demand reduction program and Flex Alert TV and radio conservation campaign, according to Cal-ISO.

The ISO peak demand is projected to reach 46,352 megawatts this summer under normal conditions, 923 more than the actual peak of 45,429 recorded in 2011, but less than the 2011 forecast under normal weather, according to the grid operator.

The decrease in the 2012 peak demand forecast is because of a conservative economic recovery prediction by Moody’s Analytics for 2012 as compared to its 2011 economic forecast, according to Cal-ISO


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1 posted on 03/22/2012 10:03:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Fortunately for the folks in California they have lots of those wind farms to take up the slack.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 10:05:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: BenLurkin

Avoid the rush. Charge your car up now.


3 posted on 03/22/2012 10:06:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


4 posted on 03/22/2012 10:06:40 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin
I realize this article is about nuclear power, but the fact is the majority of power in the USA comes from coal powered plants, and they're shutting down.

This summer there will be more "rolling blackouts" in CA, and I wouldn't doubt they could spread to other regions as well. And I have NO DOUBT that rates will go up.

If the republicans don't make Obama the star of their congressional and presidential advertisements, the pubbies deserve to lose.

We need to hear people complaining about high electrical rates and shortages, immediately followed by Obama stating that under his plans, "prices would necessarily skyrocket," followed by his statement that if a power company tries opening a coal fired plant, Obama's regime would "bankrupt them." It's rare that a political campaign gets an honest chance to place blame where it really deserves to be, and this is one of those rare chances.

Mark

5 posted on 03/22/2012 10:15:02 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Grams A

Fortunately for the folks in California they have lots of those wind farms to take up the slack.


No they won’t. The animal rights people are closing down the wind farms because those nasty machines kill the little birds./s


6 posted on 03/22/2012 10:15:15 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Grams A

They also have a very large coastline plenty of algae to make fuel.


7 posted on 03/22/2012 10:16:00 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: BenLurkin

A state as populated as california, and they have only two nuclear plant sites. Pennsylvania or Illinois have like 7 or more sites, with less population. If one plant goes down, and causes that much of a disruption, you have some serious problems on the supply side. Or, more than likely, the nuts and flakes want it that way, much to the chagrin of the californians who still have their heads screwed on straight.


8 posted on 03/22/2012 10:18:00 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: MarkL
Gray-out Davis will wax nostalgic.
9 posted on 03/22/2012 10:19:36 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: BenLurkin

I am certain nobody in LA would ever riot over this kind of thing.

/SARC

It will be the largest hispanic/black battlefield in America.


10 posted on 03/22/2012 10:25:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
This really does seem to bode ill for the summer, especially if it's a hot one. All the windmills in the world can't air condition LA.
11 posted on 03/22/2012 10:33:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BenLurkin

Texas has a lot of windfarms too and the EPA shut down some coal power plants.... we will definitely have blackouts by August


12 posted on 03/22/2012 11:00:47 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: LukeL

If the power goes out very long, they’ll have all the algae they need in backyard pools.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 11:17:12 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Grams A

Well there goes my oplans to buy a VoLt.......


14 posted on 03/22/2012 11:21:17 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Grams A

Well there goes my plans to buy a VoLt.......


15 posted on 03/22/2012 11:21:35 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I could see Las Vegas being forced to divert power to LA to prevent mass civil upheaval.


16 posted on 03/22/2012 11:46:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They already do, Recall LA got in a huff and they told them that they could do without. Too bad the lines going south only hold a small amount.


17 posted on 03/23/2012 12:06:04 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: BenLurkin

More like Mexico every day.


18 posted on 03/23/2012 1:18:31 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: BenLurkin

An untapped biofuel that would solve California’s energy shortage is the hot gas coming out of their Lefty politicians. At this time they are so much worthless talk.


19 posted on 03/23/2012 1:58:17 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: BenLurkin
Unit 3 of the plant south of San Clemente has been shut down since Jan. 31

Good and let it stay that way.

20 posted on 03/23/2012 4:29:34 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

And your reasoning for that wish?


21 posted on 03/23/2012 6:05:23 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: MarkL

Time to buy Generac stock (GNRC)....I did.


22 posted on 03/23/2012 6:10:10 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: RoadGumby
And your reasoning for that wish?

The risks of nuclear power are unacceptable to me when we have other alternatives. The risk to the bottom line in the event of failure is simply too great.

Since you will probably ask what alternatives I favor, I will advance the conversation. The model for Southern California should be to allow Feed In Tarriffs at the consumer level. The requires only a simply legislative change.

Under that FIT model, consumers will be allowed to be paid for the electricity they generate, not just have their bills reduced but to actually be paid for the amount of electricity that is pumped into the system. The most common type of generation would be roof top solar, a system that is already working. The only part of FIT that is not working residential roof top generators have no profit incentive to create more electricty.

The profit motive is a mighty engine of capitalism. With it in place, I might conserve electricity (become more efficient) to get a better profit at the end of the year. That profit would also drive innovation to make my system produce more.

The truely conservative view would be to allow the free market to apply to residential roof top solar and other means to generate electricty at the point of use.

23 posted on 03/23/2012 10:09:22 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You said - The truely conservative view would be to allow the free market to apply to residential roof top solar and other means to generate electricty at the point of use.

Riiight, because solar is so economical and reliable. Got your Volt yet? Perhaps you could put panels on that too to augment its feeble power train.

I assume you live in SoCal. I used to, got smart and left. You on the other hand, remain and actually echo the lefty mantras regarding nuke power.

ENJOY your summer of paying more for electricity while it is actually available there.

Anti-nuke people DESERVE all the rates they pay, all the electricity shortages they get.

ALL technology entails risk. But that risk is evaluated versus the benefits. Nuke is a power source that generates large benefits, with a risk that, over time, hasa diminished. Case in point, SONGS 1. Too old to retrofit, now it is gone. Units 2 and 3 are fine, will be shown to be so. But regardless of fitness for use, I’m sure there will be protests, unending hearings, etc.

You should show you are not willing to support such risk-filled ventures like electricity production and get off the grid. But you know, even fabricating solar panels has risks. Oh, the hugh-manatee of it all.


24 posted on 03/23/2012 10:19:58 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I am certain nobody in LA would ever riot over this kind of thing.

I was in downtown LA a while back. I was in my car sitting at a red light and the power went out in a 20 block area. It took all of 30 seconds before I heard windows breaking and alarm bells start to ring.

I got out of the area real quick.

25 posted on 03/23/2012 10:28:31 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: RoadGumby
Riiight, because solar is so economical and reliable. Got your Volt yet? Perhaps you could put panels on that too to augment its feeble power train.

With all due respect, that is not a very thinking reply. I mean, I jump in to conversations like that also. I understand the larger issue you are speaking to.

But, on the subject of roof top solar, I am looking out my window right now at three homes that have solar panels. All three neighbors said if they were allowed to be paid for the electricity they generate, they could receive a check at the end of the year. Instead they just put up massive Christmas light displays.

Let's get into this in a bit more detail. Explain to me your objection to a residential homeowner being paid for the electricity they generate and put into the grid. Let's stick to that simple proposition. I think we agree on the larger political conversation.

26 posted on 03/23/2012 11:19:07 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Too funny. Boy do they have a surprise in store for them during rolling black-outs. I can envision all those cars stranded in the middle of the interstate dead as a doornail, out of gas and three miles to the nearest charging station on a hot Friday afternoon in the summer. Kind of like what we went through when we evacuated for Katrina and so many people ran out of gas because they didn’t think ahead.


27 posted on 03/23/2012 2:37:56 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I have NO objection to a homeowner generating his own electricity. At all.

However, the idea of shtting down nukes because we can all just use solar, is just another version of “We can all stop using oil if we all drive electric cars.”

Same animal different words.

Unthinking is eliminating a valid, reliable, only expensive due to over-regulation energy source out of ignorance or fear.


28 posted on 03/24/2012 6:24:41 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby
However, the idea of shtting down nukes because we can all just use solar, is just another version of “We can all stop using oil if we all drive electric cars.”

I don't know who you are quoting with that statement but it sure is not me. I never said what you are quoting.

I said that we should allow the free marke, a conservative approach to government and profit to be applied. Why are you against that?

The question I asked is what would happen if the free market and profit incentive (profit is not a dirty word you know) was applied? Even without FIT for residential homeowners, we are already seeing electricity use in homes reduced by 50% to 70% and people enjoying the same lifestyle.

In my home, if I was allowed to be paid for the electricity I put into the grid, I would be getting a nice check each month.

29 posted on 03/24/2012 7:47:27 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You dissemble. You had the following exchange in post 20:

Unit 3 of the plant south of San Clemente has been shut down since Jan. 31

Good and let it stay that way.

I asked why you felt that way and we had our conversation to the present.

Thre free market, in regards to solar, has said solar is NOT the answer to our power needs. IF solar were ‘profitable’ it would be common. It is not profitable at all. It is heavily subsidized, which is neither conservative or free market in nature. You want solar, buy it, paying its FULL COST, don’t ask me to subsidize it, which it is now.

Free market? Not likely where solar is concerned.


30 posted on 03/24/2012 10:31:19 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

Yes, I know I started out talking about nuclear power. I may be guilty of jumping subject a bit.


31 posted on 03/24/2012 11:45:35 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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