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It's going to get interesting at FR if Romney is nominated, innit??
Vanity | 23 March 2012 | Notary Sojac

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:05:11 AM PDT by Notary Sojac

I've put some heavy wear and tear on my keyboard making the point here that it's OK to loathe Romney, but to underestimate him is the act of a fool.

Those of us who have been on the "no Romney, no how!!" bandwagon here for the last year have had the luxury of believing that someone else would be able to keep Romney from the nomination.

That now appears increasingly unlikely, as we all are forced to face the fact that Freepers (and those out there who think like Freepers) are not a decisive majority in the Republican electorate. Not even close.

There are millions of long-time Republicans who are voting for Romney because he's a dignified, executive-looking gentleman who speaks in soothing patriotic platitudes. You don't have to like this, but it's true. (And no, they are not being operated by mind control rays from Karl Rove!)

So where does this leave us? Frankly I dunno. I would hope that those who advocate holding noses and voting for Romney don't get banned from FR. At the same time, I think it's very unlikely that I will vote for him. (I voted third party in 2008 in preference to McQueeg).


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To: RIghtwardHo

“I expect Romney will get nominated. I will also not vote for him under ANY circumstances. It takes nothing but cowardice and lemming mentality to “hold one’s nose” and vote for the enemy in our camp.”

Well, go ahead. Hold your breath and stamp your foot... and end up with everyone’s worst nightmare being re-elected.

I don’t like Romney, and I’ve grown to like him less and less as time goes by. I feel sick that I voted for someone I disliked even MORE last time around (McCain), and, to tell you the truth, I didn’t have any great love for GWB either.
But the prospect of ending up with Obama, unfettered, for ANOTHER four years of sheer hell is something we should ALL fight against. I, too, was as the point where I didn’t feel I could vote for Romney, no matter what. I’ve changed my mind. You have to put your emotions aside and do what’s best for the country - and wasting your vote on a write-in or not voting at all is tantamount to a vote for Obama.


51 posted on 03/23/2012 8:36:53 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: douginthearmy
There are a lot of things I like about FR. But one thing I don't like is that it tends to a Manichean view of political campaigns.

Like Palin?? Then she must be portrayed as virtue and integrity incarnate. No mention of any flaws is ever to be permitted.

Dislike Romney? Then he must be portrayed as liberalism and corruption incarnate. No mention of any virtues must ever be permitted.

Dislike Gingrich? Then he must be portrayed as liberalism and corruption incarnate. No mention of any virtues must ever be permitted.

Whoops, time to pivot!!

Like Gingrich?? Then he must be portrayed as virtue and integrity incarnate. No mention of any flaws is ever to be permitted.

Hey, they're all politicians, people. All have flaws, some more than others. None are saints, none are demons.

52 posted on 03/23/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I won’t be voting if he’s the nominee.

Yes, you will -- for Obama. Hope you can live with that.

53 posted on 03/23/2012 8:37:16 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’ve done all I could to affect the nomination: I voted for Santorum in the Primary.

He came in second.

I can do no more but hope and pray for the outcome of the convention, and then vote to defeat Obama in November.


54 posted on 03/23/2012 8:37:45 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I believe most Americans don’t want BHO - problem is they aren’t informed and swallow the propaganda and media hype that say Romney is the only one who can beat BHO. A tragedy, since Mittens is perhaps the weakest, will put up no fight (like McLame in ‘08) and is SO much like BHO - Obama-Lite.

Afraid most people are ignorant of reality and don’t look below the surface.


55 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:12 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Actually with Romney a smart 3rd party is going to run a pro-life, pro-Constitution, pro-gun, anti-tax candidate just to become a real party.

Stupid party did this to themselves.

56 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:50 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Nifster
If you do the same thing this time the country is finished.It appears that about half the posts upthread agree with you, half don't.

Like I said, it's going to get interesting...............

57 posted on 03/23/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Well said.

The Establishment RINO's from now on are NEVER getting my vote.

58 posted on 03/23/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: demkicker

>>>I admire people with principles, but in this case I cannot fathom how anyone could justify handing the presidency over to Satan/Obama for another four years - period.<<<

It is the traitors who voted for Bishop Willard in the primary who will be “handing the presidency over to Satan/Obama for another four years.”

Also, do you really think the presidence would not be in “Satan’s hands” with Romney as president?


59 posted on 03/23/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I am not voting for Romney even if he is wins the primary.

I am a conservative, not a republican, I am not going to vote for a false choice.

Either I will vote for a third party or won’t vote at all.

If this means we get 4 more years of Obama, the Republicans made it happen....don’t blame the people.

In my eyes, we have a case of two Obama’s running for President.


60 posted on 03/23/2012 8:40:35 AM PDT by dila813
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To: douginthearmy
He is a moderate, but he is a right of center moderate.

Yep, Romneycare is pretty much right of center.

61 posted on 03/23/2012 8:42:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: samtheman
And you know what, Palin let us down in all this. Let us down BIG TIME.

Only to those who put her on a pedestal.

I never did.

Palin doesn't owe me a damn thing.

62 posted on 03/23/2012 8:42:14 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: Notary Sojac
as we all are forced to face the fact that Freepers (and those out there who think like Freepers) are not a decisive majority in the Republican electorate. Not even close.

Put down the bong. It is clear that Romneys core support among Republicans its at most 30%. 70% would rather have someone else. Romney is being crammed down the throats of Republicans, again.

63 posted on 03/23/2012 8:43:36 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: samtheman
But you know what, as much as I like Newt (and I do) I really believe that Perry was the man for Our Side.

Meh, I went from Perry to Newt myself. Sorry, but Perry demonstrated he was not up to the task of being a national general election candidate. Republicans gave him plenty of chances and Rick had gobs of cash too. Perry led in the polls big time for awhile. He simply does not have the communication skills for the job.

Perry was by far and away the best candidate on paper. But he was a paper tiger and fell apart under the spotlight. I wish it had been different. I was very enthusiastic about Perry when he entered the race, but it became clear pretty quickly that he just wasn't capable of being the nominee.

64 posted on 03/23/2012 8:43:36 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Notary Sojac

Liberals will vote for their candidate no matter what he says because they know the candidate is saying what he has to say to get elected. RINOS do the same thing. Therefore, the “etch-a-sketch” comment is just fine with Romney supporters.

Those “republicans” who vill vote for Romney would have voted for Ford if he was running. They like those “moderate” Rockefeller republicans.


65 posted on 03/23/2012 8:43:45 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Also, do you really think the presidence would not be in “Satan’s hands” with Romney as president?

See my post 52.

66 posted on 03/23/2012 8:44:08 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: dfwgator
No Romney Today....No Romney Tomorrow....No Romney Forever!

I had no idea until now how many people were running for POTUS.

There has to be at least ONE worth a damn to vote for!

list of candidates by party.

67 posted on 03/23/2012 8:44:29 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Notary Sojac

Since McRomney is probably going to be nominated, he’ll need to win this without my vote (Probably will in AZ anyway). I don’t care who he picks for Veep, it’s lost on me.

I will be voting down-ballot. There are many things besides President going on in AZ.


68 posted on 03/23/2012 8:44:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Aglooka
Supreme Court nominations. We know what to expect from Obama with Romney there is at least a chance.

That's really the best motivator to vote for Mitt in the general election. Even that won't be enough for a lot of people.

You see the big picture and hopefully your logic will be contagious. Some would rather cut their nose off to spite their face.

69 posted on 03/23/2012 8:45:06 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree completely, but I don’t think you go far enough. :)

Love your tagline by the way. Don’t have a grandson with a dog collar would work too. :)


70 posted on 03/23/2012 8:47:28 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: EGPWS
Who is running for the Constitution party?

One of the candidates running for the nomination of the Constitution Party is Virgil Goode, the great, outspoken former Congressman from VA's 5th District.

Virgil is a strong conservative, who sometimes took flak for his comments about muslims (makes me a fan right there!).

Here's Virgil's policy background:

http://www.ontheissues.org/VA/Virgil_Goode.htm

The Constitution Party's website is:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

71 posted on 03/23/2012 8:47:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I will be voting down-ballot. There are many things besides President going on in AZ.

I live in VA and will be doing the same.

72 posted on 03/23/2012 8:48:38 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Romney is a blank slate. A shape-shifter. He’ll do or say whatever is expedient at the moment. The Etch-A-Sketch comment was clever and true. If elected, the best we can hope for is that the people pulling his pathetic strings are the good guys. Probably won’t happen, though. He’ll surround himself with the Bushes, John McCain, etc. They endorsed him and will be the recipients of paybacks, and they’ll be the puppet masters. (I wonder what he has promised Ann Coulter.)


73 posted on 03/23/2012 8:49:05 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: Notary Sojac
"because he's a dignified, executive-looking gentleman who speaks in soothing patriotic platitudes."

Gosh...that's the same thing they said about obama...imagine that...
74 posted on 03/23/2012 8:49:27 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: Lazlo in PA

“It won’t be interesting at all. Just look at this thread from last night and see how many FReepers are comfortable with Romney as the nominee ALREADY.The Primary isn’t even close to over and the Convention is 6 months away and people have totally sold out. Very sad.”

Yours’ is one of the few posts that directly answers the question posed in the title of this thread.

But, you may be wrong about the ABO faction being strong enough to make things dull at FR should the party go the way Jeb and Fox are pushing it (drop out, coalesce, end the debate, have pep-rally instead of a real convention). There are so many issues and unknowns that have been simmering for months on the back burner that are about to boil over in the next 6 months - I just can’t see 2012 NOT being like 1968. JMHO.


75 posted on 03/23/2012 8:50:53 AM PDT by ngat
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To: demkicker

>You see the big picture and hopefully your logic will be contagious. Some would rather cut their nose off to spite their face.

Indeed. I’m no Romney fan, but let’s be honest here, the alternative (assuming it does come down to Romney vs. Obama) is so much worse as to be night and day.

The consequences of letting Obama back in are far too great.


76 posted on 03/23/2012 8:51:47 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: samtheman

I didn’t give up on Rick because, as you say, he was the most principled conservative of the bunch, who also had more than a decade’s worth of experience of actually running something. I didn’t doubt that he would hit the ground running the day after the election (if he won). The early debates made me sick, but then, as it was revealed he’d had back surgery and was on pain meds, the reason for his performance became clear. As he healed, he improved steadily, and by the last couple of debates, he was wonderful. But it was too late....and that was just so frustrating.

I’m with Newt now, and I believe he is our best hope. But it seems people are just too stupid to do basic research about their candidate.


77 posted on 03/23/2012 8:52:37 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: MayflowerMadam

It was his own, ‘top’, advisor who said the ‘etch-a-sketch’ thing too. You believe that. It’s not even an ‘open secret’.

We are literally reliving ‘McCain v Obama’ again. It’s amazing.


78 posted on 03/23/2012 8:52:48 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Notary Sojac

NoBama, No Way!


79 posted on 03/23/2012 8:52:48 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Expect a whole crap-ton of these pictures being posted:

LOTS MORE OF THEM.

80 posted on 03/23/2012 8:52:53 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Notary Sojac
This is an interesting thread.
I expect most here will eventually swallow hard and vote for Romney, which will make his loss in November just a bit less of a drubbing.

For my part, I can't stand the man but I'm a lot more disgusted with the process that has served him up.

The republican party telegraphed Romney as next guy in line during the 2008 primary.
The republican party utterly failed to take a lesson from McPain's embarrassing failure - they pinned it on Sara Palin and assumed that gave them license for more business as usual.
The republican party did just what they'd forecast and jammed Romney up conservatives throats.

They're going down in flames again, but not before anointing Jeb Bush for 2016 (if we get that far).

81 posted on 03/23/2012 8:53:28 AM PDT by norton
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To: Notary Sojac

I plead guilty. I did put her up on a pedestal.

My mistake. Not hers.


82 posted on 03/23/2012 8:54:02 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Notary Sojac

I will still vote for the rep nominee but I am in commiefornica and my vote doesn’t count. The commiefornica republican party calls me all the time looking for money and all I do is laugh. Good luck to you all in the swing states and please vote for the rep nominee so we can get a few of them to help win the presidency. Romney is 100 times better than zero I think? LOL

You voters in the swing states please help us all out. Don’t throw your votes away. Good luck.


83 posted on 03/23/2012 8:55:04 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Longbow1969

The Problem as I see it with Romney is that he will be such a mediocre President that even if he does win he will be so middle of the road as to “not upset the apple cart” that the economy will not bloom and then in 4 years it will assure that the democrats take back power on the whole meme that the “economy didn’t recover”.

Not to mention any GOP president is going to be so damned hated no matter how “moderate” they are. Mittens will get so damned gun shy that he will be ineffective and the MSM and the Democrat controlled media will smell blood and keep attacking him even as he retreats and this will paralyze him to what needs to be done to restore the economy and defuse all of Obama’s horrible regulatory actions.

Newt is going to be hated like hell anyways and HE KNOWS THAT, but he also knows that he will have the people who put him there behind even if the Media doesn’t paint it that way every night at 5:00pm.

So therefore, Newt (who thrives on antagonism instead of flinching from it) will take the bold measures to recover the economy despite being thrashed every night on the MSM news channels. In Four years the MSM will be flabbergasted like their were on election night in 1984, because the man on the street will notice the economy improvement.

Mitt is a Flincher, Newt is a Clincher

Definition of a Clincher:

a decisive fact, argument, act, or remark

Definition of a Flincher:

to withdraw or shrink from or as if from pain

We are so SOL if Either Mittens gets in or Barry gets a second term.

Mittens would only slow things down and then in four years the GOP would be blamed so much but with little to show we would still be in an economic malaise the likes of Carter’s worst dreams. This would GUARANTEE a Democrat Victory over the house the senate and even the presidency in 2016. They would not be pulling any punches as they would run someone that would make Obama look like a middle of the road moderate. Because they know they would have a very good chance of winning. Not to mention the class warfare game that could be played to Bolshevik conclusion during that election if we get Romney and mediocre performance out of him which is very much likely.

Of course Obama winning would be a very much “nothing to lose” second term that would see him likely either completely destroying the economy so badly that they play the game of “Destroy and Support” in that they would destroy the economy and then support the people as the “great savior” thus ensuring either “Glorious Revolution” or the mass construction project of making millions more so dependent that they will have a permanent grip on power that would only come undone with Blood sweat and tears, but mostly Blood and Tears.

ABO and ABR, because we really need Newt or maybe Santorum if we get desperate, heck I would even take, heaven forbid (I can’t believe I am saying this), Ron Paul over Romney for the reasons above.

So I repeat once more: Newt is the Clincher, and Mitt is the Flincher.


84 posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: BfloGuy

No I won’t be voting for Obama.

So you do not understand that there is NO ideological difference between Romney & Obama? None!!! Don’t play that BS with me that by not voting I’m enabling Obama. Wake up....a vote for Romney or Obana is a vote for the progressive agenda.

Hope you can live with that.


85 posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:59 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Yep, Romneycare is pretty much right of center.

In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO).

86 posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:59 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Notary Sojac

>>>Dislike Romney? Then he must be portrayed as liberalism and corruption incarnate. No mention of any virtues must ever be permitted.<<<

Okay, Romney has nice hair. Other than that he has no virtues whatsoever to a conservative, none.


87 posted on 03/23/2012 9:02:46 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: samtheman
And you know what, Palin let us down in all this. Let us down BIG TIME. First by dropping out and then by not doing what she did in 2010 so well, getting us to coalesce around conservatives.

Thanks a heap, Sarah. For nothing.

Sarah Palin owes you or anybody else here nothing. In fact, Republicans and some conservatives let her down. None the less, she did an excellent job of promoting and defending Conservative policy and issues while letting us pick the strongest conservative candidate. Again, any failure is on Republicans' part NOT Sarah's.

You outta be apologizing to her, you're the one that doesn't measure up.

88 posted on 03/23/2012 9:04:14 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Navy Patriot

See my post #82. I said “My Mistake. Not hers.”


89 posted on 03/23/2012 9:06:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: demkicker

I’m going to wait and see who Romney picks as his running mate, should he get the nomination. I’ll take that as a reasonable indication of how he’d pick the 2 or 3 SCOTUS appointments whoever wins in 2012 will probably get.

Beyond that, his running mate should be seen as pointing to the future direction of the GOP, since that person will be the defacto standard bearer if the ticket loses, or the natural successor if it wins.


90 posted on 03/23/2012 9:06:41 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Notary Sojac
We are certainly not losing, although we are not winning either. If conservatives can keep Mitt from winning a first round nomination, despite the powerful support for the establishment choice and his gigantic funding edge, that should make the situation perfectly clear to the party leadership. If they decide to force Romney on us anyways, then America deserves the terrible consequences of that final error. I'll agree with DeMint that at least Romney doesn't hate America and Americans like Obama does, but otherwise the differences are small.

I do not believe that Romney will repeal ObamaCare, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

I do not believe that Romney will cut federal spending significantly, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

I do not believe that Romney will protect the Second Amendment, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

I do not believe that Romney will protect the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of religion, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

I do not believe that Romney will prevent the federal government from paying for abortions and from requiring others to provide abortions even if they have a religious objection, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

I do not believe that Romney will govern in a manner significantly different from how Obama would govern, given the same Congress, and that is essential for a candidate to get my vote.

The real difference is with our military, where Romney at least doesn't seem to have that visceral hatred for our military. Unfortunately, I do not believe that Romney is either interested in our military or competent to serve as Commander-in-Chief (i.e., he's too much like Obama there too), and that is very nearly essential for a candidate to get my vote.

The party leadership knows that many of us feel that way. If they insist on Romney and on surrendering to ObamaCare and liberalism, I'm done with them. I will vote as conservative as possible in all the down ticket races, but Romney will need to win without my vote. I'll be voting Palin/Cain, Perry/Palin, or Santorum/Bachmann as write ins. I know that I don't sound very flexible here, but the political absolutes - fundamental God-given rights that are completely non-negotiable - have suddenly become political issues where our party's leadership wants to compromise. They can compromise on their own, but it will be without my support - permanently.

91 posted on 03/23/2012 9:07:47 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Perry should have stayed out of the debates until his back healed and he got off the medication... and said FU to any critics of that decision.

He’d still be in the race right now.

But the bottom line is, as a group we conservatives are easily led, in some ways much more easily led than is the left.

The left would never have been pinballed from one candidate to another the way we have been.

They are actually more principled than we are. (The problem is, their principles are all evil.)


92 posted on 03/23/2012 9:10:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Notary Sojac
At the same time, I think it's very unlikely that I will vote for him. (I voted third party in 2008 in preference to McQueeg).

Yeah, and it's third party voters who gave us Bill Clinton, voting for Perot. Thanks a lot, third party voters.

They're as intelligent as those who voted for Obama last time to teach Conservatives a lesson. YOU guys are as much responsible for Obama's 30-trillion debt as he is.
93 posted on 03/23/2012 9:11:37 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Notary Sojac

i will not vote for the white version of fubo... NEVER

the bushes 3 terms did enough damage to this country, i will not vote for the bushes 4th term (santorum).... NEVER

I will not put my name with those that seek to destroy what I love....period


94 posted on 03/23/2012 9:13:09 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Navy Patriot

Going to be even more interesting when Palin endorses Romney...


95 posted on 03/23/2012 9:13:43 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: ngat
So, the only conclusion possible is that an electorate to which the universal franchise has been extended, is infinitely pliable, by application of the ruses of the demogogue

Since the dawn of history.

96 posted on 03/23/2012 9:14:23 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: douginthearmy
In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO).

So What? The qualifications for the nom are prominent Republican flip flopper?

97 posted on 03/23/2012 9:20:02 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: ExGeeEye
believe the answer is the same as that given a man trying to rescue his brother from drowning in sewage: hold your nose and do your best with what you have.

I like your analogy.

98 posted on 03/23/2012 9:20:48 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: B.O. Plenty; All
Romney, if he prevails, may not be the candidate that we all hope he would be, but with the help of a Conservative Congress, most of what we want done will get done, but it will not be pretty.

Meanwhile, those who would vote for Romney wind up selling their conservative soul.

Tis many "joe the republicans" among us. Who is "Joe the Republican?" ...perhaps, some of you FREEPERS can see "Satan" appearing to "Joe the Republican" here: 'What good would it do to forfeit your convictions & not gain your political world?' [Vanity]

Let us know if you see yourselves in that character!

99 posted on 03/23/2012 9:22:59 AM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: GraceG
So therefore, Newt (who thrives on antagonism instead of flinching from it) will take the bold measures to recover the economy despite being thrashed every night on the MSM news channels. In Four years the MSM will be flabbergasted like their were on election night in 1984, because the man on the street will notice the economy improvement.

Umm, you don't have to sell me on Newt. I have supported him since it became clear that Perry didn't have what it takes to be the nominee. The problem is, not enough other GOP primary voters agree with us. At this point one has to admit that the odds Newt wins the nomination are.........miniscule.

I mentioned an observation to someone else on FR recently. I play Newt's speeches for friends and coworkers and most just don't react very positively. The conservatives that really grasp this stuff and are very involved in the debates and arguments tend to get it and like him, but most don't have that kind of deep understanding and end up just commenting to me that Gingrich sounds to strident or angry. /shrug. It just seems to me that Newt is not coming off as likeable enough to be competitive.

100 posted on 03/23/2012 9:26:11 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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