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Any single incident where an unarmed civilian is gunned down is one too many
3/26/12

Posted on 03/26/2012 2:42:00 PM PDT by mdittmar

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1 posted on 03/26/2012 2:42:05 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Agree!


2 posted on 03/26/2012 2:43:43 PM PDT by cyborg (All grannies, All the time.)
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To: mdittmar
So....an Hispanic American kills a ‘Brother’, who was bashing Hispanic/German American Zimmermans head against the sidewalk( and ultimately broke Zimmermans nose), dies when the shooter manages to pull his licensed pistol which the future dead guy was trying to take from him. it goes off killing the hoodie wearing, pants on the ground, thug....and the media pulls out pictures of the dead ‘brother’ from 10 years earlier like he was a sweet baby. and Sharpton and the left make THIS a cause celeb to ban guns?

don't be so gullible

3 posted on 03/26/2012 2:45:50 PM PDT by Vaquero (Molon Labe)
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To: mdittmar

Any person that has an unarmed civilian trying to beat them to death is fully justified in killing the bastard.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 2:46:25 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: mdittmar

You’re talking about the white kid at MSU who was murdered by three black guys in his dorm? Totally agree. And he didn’t even have any Skittles!!!


5 posted on 03/26/2012 2:46:59 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: mdittmar

So, you feel this way about blacks killing whites, too, or just in this incident?


6 posted on 03/26/2012 2:47:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: mdittmar

Any car accident that kills a small child is one too many.

Any inground pool that causes the death of a toddler is one too many.

Any ...............


7 posted on 03/26/2012 2:47:38 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: mdittmar

What if that unarmed citizen was raping you daughter? Hmmmmmmmm.......

You, I am sure meant well but your comment, without appropriate context is vapid.

nothing personal


8 posted on 03/26/2012 2:48:03 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: mdittmar

Disagree! If someone has assualted me broken my nose and is beating the back of my head against the concret sidewalk they can expect a immediate full force response on my part. Take that as fair warning.


9 posted on 03/26/2012 2:48:10 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JoSixChip
Any person that has an unarmed civilian trying to beat them to death is fully justified in killing the bastard.

He wasn't unarmed, he had 2 arms and was apparently using both of them to harm somebody.

10 posted on 03/26/2012 2:48:19 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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11 posted on 03/26/2012 2:48:26 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq !)
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To: mdittmar; cyborg

As we all know, no one has ever been killed by punches and kicks...


12 posted on 03/26/2012 2:49:03 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: mdittmar

What did you say when Vicky Weaver’s head was blown off?

When Mario Paz was shot in bed?

Ismael Mena?

Donald Scott?

80 Davidians?


13 posted on 03/26/2012 2:50:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: cyborg; mdittmar

That depends entirely upon the proposed solution. Restricting Second Ammendment rights would be just plain wrong, and much worse than wrongful death from time to time. Sorry, that is just the plain truth.


14 posted on 03/26/2012 2:51:20 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: mdittmar
So the actual circumstances and what led up to it matters not at all?
Example: An unarmed 250 lb man is trying to forcibly rape an armed 90 lb woman.
Shoot or not shoot, that's the question.
Note: The UNARMED man was once very cute baby.

15 posted on 03/26/2012 2:51:49 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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mdittmar,

One too many what?!? What about instances of justifiable homicide? Just because an attacker is unarmed doesn't mean that the use of deadly force is one instance too many. It is not better for an attacker to murder an innocent, but armed person, than for an innocent person to use deadly force to stop an attack on his life by an unarmed person.

16 posted on 03/26/2012 2:51:51 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: mdittmar

And you would have taken the beating by someone who is 6’4” and a football player, from the young man who was claiming he was going to kill him/her, and died? For what?

Gunner


17 posted on 03/26/2012 2:51:56 PM PDT by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy!!!)
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To: mdittmar

According to Zimmerman AND WITNESSES, Zimmerman was heading back to his car when he was attacked by Trayvon. Zimmerman was pretty banged up and it was also confirmed that the person yelling help on the 911 call was Zimmerman. I’m not sure what was expected of him. Despite the pictures of Trayvon showing him to be a tiny little middle schooler he was taller and in better shape. Attacking from behind does give him the advantage. I don’t know how I would react but if someone was pounding my head into the pavement (also verified by witnesses), I might shoot, too.

Cindie


18 posted on 03/26/2012 2:52:14 PM PDT by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: cyborg

Would you be happier if they were whacked with baseball bats?


19 posted on 03/26/2012 2:52:29 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Vaquero

Okay...question for you and all other FReepers:

Does this equate to ‘Black = Guilty’?


20 posted on 03/26/2012 2:52:41 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: mdittmar
Any single incident where an unarmed civilian is gunned down in an unjustified manner is one too many
21 posted on 03/26/2012 2:54:30 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: mdittmar

Rhetorically speaking, you, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the MSM and a host of others are guilty of what you are accusing Mr. Zimmerman of doing: Shooting first and asking questions later.

From what I am reading that is coming out today, it sounds very much like this young thug was, in fact, shot in self-defense. Tragic? Absolutely. But you and your band of buddies listed above are precisely the kind of people that enable and perpetuate such incidents because you make excuses, garble the facts and give them cover. Disgusting!!!


22 posted on 03/26/2012 2:55:29 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: mdittmar
You are obviously ignorant of the real world. I have seen many incidents where unarmed, law abiding citizens were attacked and suffered broken facial bones, concussions, permanent brain damage, kidney damage etc. Have you ever seen a gang of “unarmed” “youths” descend on an innocent person kick them in the head, beat them severely over and over etc?

An armed civilian who respects the law should defend himself and his family. Or maybe you think all honest people should just be passive victims.

You need to grow up.

23 posted on 03/26/2012 2:55:41 PM PDT by detective
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An October 16, 2009 article in The Daily Mail stated, “Ironically, the case has now generated more publicity surrounding the furor over whether or not political correctness was behind the US media’s decision to largely ignore the story than it did for the murders themselves.

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three males, and “taken back to Lemaricus Devall ‘Slim’ Davidson’s rented house on Chipman Street.”[6]

Christian’s parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian’s body in a trash can in the kitchen.

According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.

Channon’s death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with “an object,” possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then “hog-tied,” with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.[7]


24 posted on 03/26/2012 2:55:55 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: mdittmar

Unless the guy is naked and can’t move, you can’t assume he’s unarmed. To make the assumption that anyone is unarmed is a serious folly and foolhardy on your part.

If someone is attacking me, he better understand that armed or not, I will defend myself and I am always armed.

Stupidity should be painful and in the case of Treyvon, it was lethally painful.

He got what he asked for.


25 posted on 03/26/2012 2:56:34 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: mdittmar

Simple Jack.


26 posted on 03/26/2012 2:58:20 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: hoagy62
Please see #11 above.
27 posted on 03/26/2012 2:58:26 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq !)
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To: mdittmar

Bumper sticker reasoning.


28 posted on 03/26/2012 2:59:39 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: mdittmar

Trayvon had two good arms and used them in an assault.Too bad he didn’t have much of a functioning brain


29 posted on 03/26/2012 3:03:08 PM PDT by Figment
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To: hoagy62
First we have a thread title void of thought -- akin to "War is not the answer"

Then we have your breathtaking non sequitur that using necessary force to defend oneself is akin to "Black = Guilty" (unless, of course, you forgot the sarcasm tag ...)

30 posted on 03/26/2012 3:03:34 PM PDT by glennaro
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In Chicago last weekend alone, 49 people were gunned down in 3 days. Ten died. Two teenagers gunned down a 6 yr old girl standing in front of her house.

I guess that’s 49 too many, eh

Yet 1,000 Chicagoans were marching for Tray-von and Dickless Turban D, Il, and the REV-rund Jesse Jackson of Chicago Il, were pimping Tray-vons death for publicity


31 posted on 03/26/2012 3:03:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: PhiloBedo

“Never go full retard.”


32 posted on 03/26/2012 3:05:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: hoagy62

No. It equates to “if someone is trying to kill me by beating my brains out, and I am armed, they are dead.”


33 posted on 03/26/2012 3:05:30 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: hoagy62

You know the answer to that.

Don’t be asking stupid questions.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 3:05:32 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: All

I agree...as soon as the bad guys stop hurting the good guys and the govt becomes an entity that works in the best interest of the people, I will throw my guns into the river....phew, I feel better now...


35 posted on 03/26/2012 3:07:24 PM PDT by Maverick68
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Unjustifyably?

Yes.

But that’s not the case here.

And apparently you just wanted to make a blanket statement with no intention of answering anyone who questions you assumption.

And, judging by your non response, you just assume the mods won’t notice that you’re just trolling and won’t zap you..


36 posted on 03/26/2012 3:07:37 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: All

Any tragedy that is used as a tool to further erode freedoms is one too many...


37 posted on 03/26/2012 3:08:23 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Bigh4u2

Unjustifyably = unjustifiably


38 posted on 03/26/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: hoagy62
Does this equate to ‘Black = Guilty’?

the guy is Hispanic with black family members and he was mentoring a black kid.

why muddy the waters any more than the MSM, NAACP and the zer0bama is already muddying the waters...

39 posted on 03/26/2012 3:10:57 PM PDT by Vaquero (Molon Labe)
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To: glennaro

Yep...sarcasm tag forgotten. My bad.

(We need a way to “undo” or edit.)


40 posted on 03/26/2012 3:11:51 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: mdittmar

yes, that is so true... next time a big hulking burglar invades the home of a crippled octagenarian with the intent of strangling him I hope the old guy has the sense to make sure he does NOT shoot if the man is unarmed...

Maybe we should make it a rule that it is always nice in a polite society that you ASK FIRST if your assailants are unarmed so that you don;t shoot them unfairly before they kill you

because if only ONE criminal life is saved,.. it will be worth it


41 posted on 03/26/2012 3:12:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: gardencatz
I don’t know how I would react but if someone was pounding my head into the pavement (also verified by witnesses), I might shoot, too

I would too...see my tagline

42 posted on 03/26/2012 3:13:56 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: mdittmar
Any single incident where an unarmed civilian is gunned down is one too many
I can't speak for others, but if it should happen that you are shot to death at the hands of a mugger/robber while unarmed then I won't miss you one bit.
You're just another victim waiting to happen and and nothing more than eventual statistic IMO.

If you don't value your own life then why should I?

43 posted on 03/26/2012 3:14:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mdittmar
I'm semi invalid, hooked to oxygen 24/7. My days of rough and tumble self defense are long past.

What you seem to be telling me is that I must allow someone younger and stronger to beat on me rather than shooting the SOB!

Tellyawhat, it ain't gonna happen!

44 posted on 03/26/2012 3:14:32 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: hoagy62

geez that was an idiotic question...

are you new here?


45 posted on 03/26/2012 3:14:45 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: mdittmar

> Any single incident where an unarmed civilian is gunned
> down is one too many

Unless the “unarmed civilian” is pounding somebody’s head into pulp against the sidewalk.


46 posted on 03/26/2012 3:16:11 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: mdittmar

How can you make such a baseless statement? However, opinions are like *ssholes, everybody has one!


47 posted on 03/26/2012 3:25:00 PM PDT by old school
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To: mdittmar

It’s not that simple.

There is still a lot of uncertainty about this case, but one can come up with countless scenarios where an unarmed person might justifiably be shot.


48 posted on 03/26/2012 3:26:04 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Mr. K

Nope...meant to put in a sarc tag and forgot. Sometimes I think things and type in what I think without adding the appropriate addition to clarify.

Black does NOT equal guilty.

“Thug”, on the other hand...


49 posted on 03/26/2012 3:26:04 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: cyborg; mdittmar

I believe this was a knee-jerk reaction by both of you based on your previous posts.
This thing has gotten blown way out of control. This isn’t being reported by the liberal news media with the truth, only to stir the flames of those ready to blow it up further.
Shame on everyone....take a step back and look at the truth.
AND when is it legal for a “group” to offer bounty DEAD or alive in this country?
cyborg - love your dress and your testimony posts.


50 posted on 03/26/2012 3:27:07 PM PDT by conservativesister
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