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Trayvon Martin family attorney: George Zimmerman is a vigilante
foxnews ^ | March 29, 2012 | Sean Hannity

Posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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1 posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Is being a vigilante illegal?


2 posted on 03/30/2012 2:28:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: JoeProBono

1) Why does the victim’s family need a lawyer at this stage? Eve if there is a wrongful death suit, Mr. Zimmerman is more than likely does not have deep pockets.

2) If this was “Law and Order,” the lawyer would be Latino... (just sayin’)


3 posted on 03/30/2012 2:30:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Is being a vigilante illegal?

Ask Batman?

4 posted on 03/30/2012 2:30:29 PM PDT by Ingtar
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they would like to sue the HOA.

Are these their lawyers or their “handlers”.


5 posted on 03/30/2012 2:33:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Is being a vigilante illegal?

A vigilante DEFENDER is legal, vigilante AVENGER is not.
As usual, the left who love to control the language, wants you to believe they are the same.

6 posted on 03/30/2012 2:36:45 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: JoeProBono

Does G Zim have the RIGHT to get out of his vehicle in a private gated community that HE LIVES IN?


7 posted on 03/30/2012 2:37:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little children murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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8 posted on 03/30/2012 2:38:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: freedumb2003
Why does the victim’s family need a lawyer at this stage? Eve if there is a wrongful death suit, Mr. Zimmerman is more than likely does not have deep pockets.

There is more than one lawyer claiming to "represent" the martinis, there was a different one on BOR the other night that was barely speaking English.

If you ax me, axing a lawyer to be able to shore enuf, pronounce English words correctly, isn't axing too much. Just another example of affirmative action {at least he's not a doctor}.

9 posted on 03/30/2012 2:40:19 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: JoeProBono
let's see, which is worse, vigilante with gun or thug with screwdriver?

And if that accusation is strictly true, doesn't it establish Martin as a lawbreaker? I mean, in order to be a "vigilante", there needs to be an alleged criminal...

but i guess finer points like that are probably lost in this sort of fray, eh?

10 posted on 03/30/2012 2:40:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Who says he had Skittles and ice tea? Is there any police confirmation of this? Or is this just one of the many lies the family, the attorneys and the msm spouting as they’re trying to protray him as a little innocent 12 year old? When Zimmerman was on the phone with the cops, he said the teen was approaching him with his hand in his waistband so where was this supposed candy and drink?

Others have pointed out that skittles and az tea are street names for drugs so was he shoving drugs down his pants? Or was he acting as if he had a weapon when approaching Zimmerman? Or was he jive @ss strutting?

I also want to know who exactly it was who decided this incident was worthy of national news, celebs and congress wearing hoodies and the POTUS wanting him as a son? Someone had to have latched on to this and trotted it to the WH. I want the name.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 2:41:18 PM PDT by bgill
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Is being a vigilante illegal?

It is I believe. But, riddle me this:

If Zimmerman is a vigilante, what does that make Spike Lee who tweeted an innocent elderly couple's address basically telling all the leftist goons, "Zimmerman lives here! Go get him!"?

12 posted on 03/30/2012 2:41:23 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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13 posted on 03/30/2012 2:43:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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14 posted on 03/30/2012 2:44:20 PM PDT by maggief
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15 posted on 03/30/2012 2:45:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

According to the left’s playbook, yes, but only by non-minorities. It’s all of a piece to put law abiding people on the defensive so that we won’t fight back.


16 posted on 03/30/2012 2:45:46 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: FlingWingFlyer

>>>Is being a vigilante illegal?<<<

Good question. I have another.

Does a vigilante normally call 911 to report a suspicious person or simply handle things on his own?


17 posted on 03/30/2012 2:47:12 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: JoeProBono

Self defense is not vigilantism.


18 posted on 03/30/2012 2:48:31 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: JoeProBono; All
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


19 posted on 03/30/2012 2:53:51 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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20 posted on 03/30/2012 2:56:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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21 posted on 03/30/2012 2:57:37 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Neighborhood Watch is a federally funded project:

Neighborhood Watch is undoubtedly one of the oldest and most well-known crime prevention programs in history. While the modern day concept of program rose to prominence in the late 1960s in response to an increasing burglary rate...

The modern version of the Neighborhood Watch-USAonWatch Program was developed as a result of the multiple requests from sheriffs and police chiefs around the country who were looking for a crime prevention program that would incorporate citizen involvement and address the increasing number of burglaries taking place, especially in rural and suburban areas. In 1972, the National Sheriffs’ Association (NSA) took the concept a step further by seeking funding to make the program a national initiative...
http://www.usaonwatch.org/about/default.aspx?


22 posted on 03/30/2012 3:01:17 PM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: JoeProBono

Always appreciate a reminder of what a great thing it was to escape NYS. I see the morons in Albany continue to work hard doing the State’s business...

How about this: If those guys were walking through my neighborhood wearing the hoods, they would be suspicious. Not because of their skin color (that has no bearing), but because they would be strangers on private street hiding their identity. I would approach them, out of doing what neighbors are supposed to do - look after each others homes and property. In fact, that’s what we do in my neighborhood - it’s kind of expected. If they didn’t understand that, I’d explain it. If I wasn’t confident about their intentions, I’d call the Police and other neighbors. If they chose to fight with me, it wouldn’t end well. It would not. End well.


23 posted on 03/30/2012 3:01:42 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Bacon wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon...)
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To: JoeProBono
I'd say that the New Black Panther Party that put out a poster with a bounty on Zimmerman's head is more in line with the vigilante term.

I hope when this is all over, Zimmerman will sue the asses off these race baiters.

24 posted on 03/30/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Ya think they call each other the night before and asked what they are wearing tomorrow. Unprofessional and childish to the max.


25 posted on 03/30/2012 3:05:39 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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26 posted on 03/30/2012 3:05:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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27 posted on 03/30/2012 3:10:20 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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28 posted on 03/30/2012 3:19:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Vigilante” in Spanish simply means “watchman,” which is what Zimmerman was.

I don’t think the HOA should have allowed armed watchmen,precisely because there is such a possibility of things like this happening.

But that would be, at worst, civil negligence, or negligent homicide or manslaughter - and not criminal homicide, which is the charge they want against Zimmerman.

Also, the “hate crime” stuff, which is ridiculous anyway since apparently only one group is protected by it, shouldn’t even be considered here, because Zimmerman would have fixed on any teenager in a hoodie giving a close look to the houses. Many of our hoodie-wearing thugs in Florida are white, although they are usually busy holding up the 7-11 or the local pharmacist in order to get OxyContin and don’t bother with residential burglaries...


29 posted on 03/30/2012 3:25:45 PM PDT by livius
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Another famous "white" hoodie thug.

30 posted on 03/30/2012 3:34:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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>"I don’t think the HOA should have allowed armed watchmen"

You prefer fractured skulls and dead watchmen?

31 posted on 03/30/2012 3:39:29 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little children murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: Made In The USA

Everybody probably knows this as well as I. The word ‘vigilante’ is Spanish for guard or watchman, someone who is vigilant. Looks like that might include you :-)
Good job.


32 posted on 03/30/2012 3:39:50 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: bgill
Good questions. I'd like to know if there is verification that Martin actually visited a store during the time he was out? Do they have him on video, or has any store clerk identified him and his purchase? Did they recover Skittles and iced tea at the scene of the shooting? Since his death wasn't of natural causes, what were the findings of the blood work that had to be done. Did he have drugs in his system or in his possession? Since the police are still in possession of Zimmerman's gun, did they find any other fingerprints on it? Did they find any of Zimmerman's blood/DNA on Martin or under his nails?

The kid was shot on February 26th. This mess didn't go national until sometime in mid March. Can't say who initially started turning it into a racial thing, but we know that Jackson and Sharpton have been involved more recently. The state attorney decided that there wasn't enough evidence to get a conviction of Zimmerman, and that should have been the end of the case, but somebody's flaming the fires of racism to create a national issue. I've read that the Justice Dept. is having the FBI investigate. I wonder how long that's going to take.

33 posted on 03/30/2012 3:48:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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You know, those armless black zombies withotu arms and chains around their necks look kind of like slaves to me.

The person under the hood is a black female, and considering that african blacks were sold into slavery by their own people, I’d say this image is kind of controversial.


34 posted on 03/30/2012 3:51:43 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JoeProBono

Those two Tallahassee attorneys are morons.


35 posted on 03/30/2012 4:07:29 PM PDT by goseminoles
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36 posted on 03/30/2012 4:12:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: livius

Zimmerman had returned to the development from an errand. He was not acting as a member of the Neighborhood Watch. He had a permit to carry a concealed weapon.


37 posted on 03/30/2012 4:24:14 PM PDT by kabar
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PARKS: No. He said he was walking down the street. That's what he said.

No, he said "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

Then he added, "He's here now and he’s just staring…looking at all the houses."

And lest we forget, he also said that Martin was "staring at me now" and "coming to check me out."

So, no, he never said Martin was just walking down the street. He said he looked like he was up to no good, and he also described an initial reaction by Martin which certainly exhibited no fear of Zimmerman.

38 posted on 03/30/2012 4:32:25 PM PDT by PhatHead
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A few minutes ago on the national NBC evening news, they dragged out the 2005 booking picture and reported how he resisted arrest and struggled with the officer. Then there was the report on spousal abuse. It’s fair to report this IF they did the same for Martin. I thought for a moment that as they were saying that despite these incidents that he was still allowed a gun permit but then they were back to their usual games saying if he had been arrested on the previous and sentenced to the max that he wouldn’t have been allowed to carry and a poor widdle black kiddie wouldn’t have been killed by this big meanie.


39 posted on 03/30/2012 4:46:36 PM PDT by bgill
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To: PhatHead

Does anyone know how long it had been raining and how hard? Why would anyone go out in the rain and walk two miles to get candy and then walk two miles back to the house? Just another thing that Martin was doing that doesn’t add up.


40 posted on 03/30/2012 4:53:49 PM PDT by bgill
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What color uniforms will the Left be wearing in this civil war?


41 posted on 03/30/2012 5:24:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: rawcatslyentist

The only job of a neighborhood watch person is to call the police, not to go after the bad guy themselves.

It sounds like Zimmerman did just call the police, and possibly went back to his car and was attacked by Martin, or possibly continued to follow Martin and was attacked by him. Regardless, Zimmerman was obviously defending himself...but he shouldn’t have been armed in the first place if he was acting in his capacity as neighborhood watchman.

The police were on their way so he wouldn’t have been any more seriously injured than he was, none of this would have happened, and Martin would probably now be sitting in a jail cell for assault and battery on a designated neighborhood watchman.


42 posted on 03/30/2012 6:48:03 PM PDT by livius
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>"but he shouldn’t have been armed in the first place"

Why not? Is this America, or Nazi Germany?

43 posted on 03/30/2012 6:53:58 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little children murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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I live in Florida (about 1 1/2 hrs from Sanford), and I saw nothing about this until very recently. I was also wondering who turned it into a national event.

I read today that Martin’s mother hired some well-known “civil rights” lawyer, probably because she was looking for money. Remember, she’s the one who trademarked her kid’s name...

One of the initial recommendations was for negligent homicide (manslaughter), which would probably have resulted only in probation or some such thing, mitigated because Zimmerman was obviously defending himself, even if he shouldn’t have put himself in harm’s way to begin with. Probably there would have been a civil suit.

But what really happened is that Obama and the Dems picked this up and ran with it. Bambi thought he was losing the black vote, because he’s done absolutely nothing for them except hand out bucks to the lowest of the low welfare class and has created a hugely high black unemployment rate in passing. So what better way to stir up his base than with an appeal to race?


44 posted on 03/30/2012 6:57:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: JoeProBono

Coming from someone whose ethical obligation is to zealously advocate for his client, this means diddly and squat.


45 posted on 03/30/2012 6:57:35 PM PDT by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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“It’s about justice,” says Crump, 42. “Too many times, whether it’s Martin’s case or Trayvon’s, our society looks on the death of black boys like they’re throwaways. And we’re not going to let them get away with it.”

Crump doesn’t do it alone. His partner, Daryl Parks, is just as apt as Crump in the courtroom or in handling the news media.

Together, the two lawyers have handled Trayvon’s case like Martin’s, with one big difference: They learned their lesson six years ago in the boot-camp case.

In Trayvon’s case, they alerted the news media more quickly. They phoned the Rev. Al Sharpton almost instantly, and organized marches with local civil-rights activists. They also started pressing for federal involvement and alleging a cover-up from the get-go.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/23/2710008/trayvon-martin-attorneys-use-playbook.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

Race is central to their practice — but that’s because racism is so central to the black experience in Florida. Parks, 42, said he took one case — involving a Lakeland police officer’s shooting of the black father of a child driven without a baby seat — because he was appalled by an officer’s statement that “You’ve got to control them.”

Said Parks: “Who the hell is ‘them?’ I had a black juror and I made sure she heard that.”

Parks & Crump won the case. Now they’re fighting in the Legislature to get the victim compensated.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/23/2710008/trayvon-martin-attorneys-use-playbook.html#storylink=cpy


46 posted on 03/30/2012 7:11:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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Crump was first contacted by a cousin of Trayvon Martin’s father. The cousin, a Miami attorney, was familiar with Crump’s civil rights work in Florida. Before Martin’s death, Crump was best known for representing the parents of a teenage boy who died after an encounter with guards at a Florida boot camp in 2006. The videotaped beating of Martin Lee Anderson attracted national attention and led to the closure of the state’s boot camps for juvenile offenders.

Crump, 42, and his wife, Genae Angelique Crump, are raising two teenage boys who are the biological sons of Crump’s cousin. The oldest is Martin’s age.

“Trayvon hits home on many levels,” Crump said.

Crump and his law partner, Daryl Parks, are Tallahassee-based personal injury attorneys who primarily handle wrongful death and negligence cases. But their everyday work often involves civil rights issues.

“Daryl and Ben look at things in a broader perspective,” said James Messer, a Tallahassee attorney who serves on the board of the Tallahassee Bar Association with Crump. “While there may be a wrongful death issue, it involves, in their eyes, more than anything a civil rights cause … (Crump) has a passion for issues that have something to do with civil rights violations.”

http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress8/trayvon-martin-family-lawyer-is-versed-in-civil-rights-cases/


47 posted on 03/30/2012 7:14:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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Obama started all of this when he was running for President in '08. He gave that speech on race and threw his grandmother under the bus. Called her a "typical white person" because she was fearful of a black panhandler who had approached her for money while she was waiting at a bus stop. The sad part is that she wasn't fearful because he was black; she was fearful of having to wait at that bus stop again; afraid that she'd be accosted again by that same guy. According to Obama's own book, his grandmother had given the guy a dollar, but he demanded more, and she said that if the bus hadn't come, she was afraid he would have hit her. The poor lady was labeled a racist by her grandson, despite the fact that she would have been fearful under the circumstances, whether the guy was white or black.

Then there was the Louis Gates incident, when Obama decided to tell the world that the "police acted stupidly." Now it's the Trayvon Martin case, and Obama says that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon. Through his words and actions, he fans the flames of racial tension every chance he gets.

Unfortunately this isn't the first time the left has used the race card to gain political traction. Remember the James Byrd, Jr. ad that the NAACP ran during Bush's first Presidential campaign? It was narrated by Byrd's daughter who insinuated that the election of Bush would be like reliving the dragging death of her father all over again. It was, I believe, the main reason that Bush would never accept an invitation to speak at the NAACP convention.

48 posted on 03/30/2012 7:57:01 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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49 posted on 03/30/2012 8:49:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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50 posted on 03/30/2012 10:03:11 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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