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WHY HASN'T RICH LOWRY BEEN FIRED YET?
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | April 8, 2012 | Vanity

Posted on 04/08/2012 8:02:32 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets

I've been a subscriber to NRODT since 1986, but Rich Lowry's mewling, whingeing, trembling mischacterization of Mr. Derbyshire's article is unacceptable. It is time for NRODT and me to part company. This is my Chuck Turner moment. I had subscribed to the Boston Globe, forever. But after they printed those fraudulent photos from Chuck Turner I got the motivation to drop my subscription. Well, I'll take the 50 bucks or so a year that NRODT costs and use it to support whatever enterprise has the savvy to scoop up Mr. Derbyshire.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: derbyshire; richlowry
Call them Monday and cancel. Gotta go to bed.
1 posted on 04/08/2012 8:02:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
IBTCYOGS. /William F. Buckley>

Cheers!

2 posted on 04/08/2012 8:04:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’m sure you recall Bill Buckeley’s advice to a caller who wanred to cancel his subscription.


3 posted on 04/08/2012 8:05:41 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Check out the Derb's website for his archived postings. He's also accepting donations for the first time, due to the cost of his cancer therapy.
4 posted on 04/08/2012 8:07:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Get over it.

Whites cannot challenge Blacks.

We concede the moral authority to do so at every site.

And the ones that don’t , you don’t want to be a part of.


5 posted on 04/08/2012 8:08:19 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Anybody but Obama, because it's not always about me. Thank God McCain/Palin lost! - Right?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Ann Coulter had his number a few years ago.

Pu$$y.


6 posted on 04/08/2012 8:12:19 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You may remember that back in the 60’s Bill Buckley organized the “National Committee to Horsewhip Drew Pearson.” You got a memebrship card, signed by Buckley, when you subscribed or renewed. I still have mine somewheres, but have absolutely no idea where.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 8:17:28 PM PDT by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: NoLibZone

Derb’s column was a bit more than a “challenge” of blacks. Some of what he wrote was not only offensive, but just plain wrong.

Too bad he took it too far, because he made some good points.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 8:23:12 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: ken5050

I think that if the truth about Drew Pearson were printed, the Wash. Post would destroy all his columns they printed.

I suspect that he was more red than red, white and blue. His associations and stories reveal that. A story for another writer to do. I’m busy helping others with 3 books.

Also, check out Jack Anderson’s background. Full of lies and bs.


9 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:49 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Jedidah

Really? Which parts were “just plain wrong” -

The only thing I saw “wrong” was the good samaritan part - and this was ADVICE on his part. I would help - knowing the risks. But the best advice = his = steer clear.

Why don’t you fill us in - which parts will you demonstrate as “wrong”.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 8:33:22 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Jedidah

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/page_2#axzz1rVjAaTE4

His article (above) is set forth in numbered paragraphs.
Which ones did you find to be not only offensive, but just plain wrong?
And why?


11 posted on 04/08/2012 8:42:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: x1stcav

i remember.

i think she called him a girly boy.


12 posted on 04/08/2012 8:48:57 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tumblindice

Get a well-spoken black friend as cover is offensive, and wrong.

I’m sure that part was semi-satirical but it did not mix well.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 8:51:22 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

Yeah, it ranks right up there with the Chris Rock video on “How Not to Get Beat Up by the Police” with the suggestion that blacks get white friends to ride with them rather than mouthy black friends. How did that mix with you? Derbyshire’s article just hit too many sore truth points for the girly-boys @ NRO.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: heartwood
Get a well-spoken black friend as cover is offensive, and wrong.

Maybe that was advice he was giving to the Democratic Party.

15 posted on 04/08/2012 8:58:02 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: heartwood

It was ADVICE -
And it was meant as an innoculation against PC crap.

Is that the best you can do? Claim it was “too realist”?

The guy went 100% against our weak PC culture - to the point of being fired immediately - and the best you got is “the drinks had too much ice”?


16 posted on 04/08/2012 8:58:46 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: tumblindice; Eldon Tyrell

Paragraph 11.

Comparing human beings to “luxury goods, like antique furniture or luxury jets.”

The suggestion that only “intelligent and well-socialized” black people are worthy of association.

Sorry, but I know too many no-count Caucasians and have too many humble and kind black friends to read that dribble without speaking up.

If you don’t, widen your circle.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: heartwood

#13? IWSBs?

“In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.”

What would you suggest then? That if we wish to be diverse and inclusive, that we motor down to the housing project about 2:00 AM and attempt to befriend some gang-bangers or crack addicts?
They’ll think we’re there to buy drugs or trim. So if his advice to his children is wrong (and offensive), and they cannot seek out black friends who are not intelligent and well socialized, because this is offensive and wrong (to you) then they are pretty much limited to boys in the `hood.
Remember, this is supposed to be advice he is giving children.

I can see your point. An `IWSB’ made a favorable impression on Harry Reid who described him as presenting a favorable appearance and not speaking with a Negro accent. And we all know how that worked out.
I disagree with your objection. I think it is `knee-jerk’ political correctness, and I’m fed up with it.


18 posted on 04/08/2012 9:09:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: Jedidah

See #18.

And that’s all you’ve got?


19 posted on 04/08/2012 9:11:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: T-Bird45

I gave my daughter the talk about the dangers of black crime and how very large the criminal fraction of the black population is in the city where she goes to college.

That’s necessary, and realistic. It’s sad, and serious, and frightening.

You either start with a satirical approach like Chris Rock, and stick with it, or you start serious and stick with it.

Friendship ought to be about more than cultivating people who are useful to you. And with race being the painful issue that it is in our country, you surely shouldn’t use people because of their race. There’s a recipe for well-deserved mistrust and ill will.


20 posted on 04/08/2012 9:36:18 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Jedidah

So you responded with a personal attack.

Now there is something wrong with US - where WE need to widen our circle. I know that you know nothing about me - but feel your opinion is not only valid re the article - but feel the need to give me advice?

You pointed out nothing but your opinion of his prose, and his tough talk. While - you hide behind YOUR OWN SHIELD OF “KIND BLACK FRIENDS”.

Such hypocracy.


21 posted on 04/08/2012 9:39:36 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: tumblindice; Jedediah

and they cannot seek out black friends who are not intelligent and well socialized=and they cannot seek out black friends who **are**intelligent and well socialized

Jed: I think you meant to reference paragraph 15. Re-read it and I think you will see that the writer is saying that intelligent, well socialized black people are valuable and worth cultivating, like anything of worth. I could go into Aristotle’s explanations of `friendships’ (from the Nicomachean Ethics) but it’s bedtime for this Bonzo.

If you want to mingle with stupid, poorly socialized people and advise your children to do so, that’s certainly your prerogative.


22 posted on 04/08/2012 9:40:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I dumped NRODT over a year ago for similar reasons. They are RINO establisment types.

I love that Rush calls it “Charles Kruthammer at NR” or something.

I’ll still browse through The Corner online and will read some like Victor Hanson and Dr. Sowell.

I read what Derb wrote and found nothing in it to be offensive. I guess Richie-boy can’t handle the truth.


23 posted on 04/08/2012 9:45:00 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: Jedidah

You are arguing a point of omission. I’m sure Derb would be more than happy to write the same type of column about “advice to his girls” if they attended a school in the South with a huge redneck population. I’m sure trailer parks would fit in there somewhere.


24 posted on 04/08/2012 9:49:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: heartwood

Or you can do what my liberal parents advise (and I’m 52) when visiting them in Portland, OR: Just don’t go to those “bad” areas.

So, being typical liberal cowards that can’t acknowledge the fact their social policies help create this mess, they just put up fences and “don’t go there”.

Hard to tour many cities doing that.


25 posted on 04/08/2012 9:54:28 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: Fledermaus

Actually - assuming it tracks with socio-ecomics is a mistake.

Crime tracks with race.

It DOES track with socio-economics - but the Blacks are just so far ahead it is ridiculous. There are - essentially “two curves” of crime vs socio-economics - the white curve, and the black curve. The Black curve is always higher. By like - 2X to 3X.

I made the assumption in the past - and got slapped down for it. Crime vs color is “two different populations” of data.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 10:06:19 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Jedidah

Perhaps you could attend the next scheduled Iowa or Wisconsin State Fair “Beat Whitey” night and widen your circle. I bet that last summer’s events formed some positive opinions. /s


27 posted on 04/08/2012 10:56:41 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Jedidah
Some of what he wrote was not only offensive, but just plain wrong.

What was wrong, exactly, and why?
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder. The liar deems the truth "offensive."

How about challenging facts with better facts and ditch the mere opinions?

28 posted on 04/08/2012 11:06:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Derbyshire isn’t just prejudiced against blacks, he also thinks all non-atheists are stupid too. I never exactly understood why Derbyshire was writing at a conservative publications, since he doesn’t really agree with conservatives on most issues. He wasn’t a fiscal conservative, a social conservative, or a foreign policy conservative. I believe he once said that he wasn’t unsympathetic to the desire for smaller government, he just didn’t think it was a realistic goal. Are you claiming his racism made him a conservative. If you are, screw you.


29 posted on 04/08/2012 11:18:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: tumblindice; Jedidah

If you truly believe or would say most of the points #9 on, you should come to terms with the fact that you aren’t a conservative, and should re-register as a Democrat. When I hear those points, I immediately though they sounded like something a Democrat or leftist would think/say.


30 posted on 04/08/2012 11:23:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: tumblindice; Jedidah

I don’t know what religion, if any, you are, but I would say those points are completely incompatible with being a Christian.


31 posted on 04/08/2012 11:23:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Do you think all people of religion should be fired from NRO, and only atheists should be allowed to work there?
32 posted on 04/08/2012 11:30:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: T-Bird45

Who are you calling a girly-boy, when you agree with a man who tells his son to be scared of all black people, and to remain cowering in his house in fear?


33 posted on 04/08/2012 11:38:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: T-Bird45

Who are you calling a girly-boy, when you agree with a man who tells his son to be scared of all black people, and to remain cowering in his house in fear?


34 posted on 04/08/2012 11:38:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Fledermaus
Weird. Derbyshire was the most RINO establishment type at NRO, but you take is side over actual conservatives. Derbyshire seemed smart enough, but he wasn't a fiscal or social conservative. He played nice with Christians, even though he thinks Christians are as unintelligent as he apparently believes blacks are.
35 posted on 04/08/2012 11:44:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: tumblindice
Unlike you, I wouldn't tell my son to cringe in fear of blacks, and let black people determine where he goes and what he does in life.

Unlike you, I wouldn't tell my son to make his life and his friends for status like some bohemian Yuppie lefty. (Sorry I'm not as politically correct as you)

Unlike you, I would try to give my son a racist, Farrakhanesque worldview.

Luckily it's a free country though, and you can tell your son whatever you think is best.

36 posted on 04/08/2012 11:49:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: xkaydet65

I think I heard it once. Remind me.


37 posted on 04/09/2012 3:37:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: tennmountainman

Maybe a Nancy Boy.

It was about 6-7 years ago?

He has a habit of firing the wrong people just because their aggressive writing and debate style offends his sense of decorum.

He is an example of why the right cannot fight against the left. Afraid of getting gore on themselves.


38 posted on 04/09/2012 4:17:44 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The thing is, the facts behind Derbyshire's article are sound. It is true that whites are statistically much more likely to be attacked by a black man they don't know than the reverse. It is true (see Charles Murray's book) that American blacks are statistically, as a whole, less intelligent than their white peers.

Now, I believe both of the latter facts are direct results of government intervention via welfare programs. The federal government itself has destroyed hopes of blacks, assisted in corrupting its culture, and enabled the violence via racist gun laws.

But the facts stand.

But I suppose that NR does not have the intellectual fortitude it has under W.F. Buckley.

39 posted on 04/09/2012 5:09:41 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Holder said America was afraid of talking about race.

Derb talked about race and was fired by NR. Ergo.....

NR is paralyzed with fear of being called racists.


40 posted on 04/09/2012 5:49:27 AM PDT by y6162
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

>> check out Jack Anderson’s background <<

I did. He was a Mormon. He also gave Brit Hume his first big Washington job.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 7:15:33 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: heartwood
Get a well-spoken black friend as cover is offensive, and wrong.

I’m sure that part was semi-satirical but it did not mix well.

Maybe he should have said "...a clean, articulate black friend."

I can't help myself

42 posted on 04/09/2012 7:34:07 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: nickcarraway

Not weird. That’s my view as I see it.


43 posted on 04/09/2012 9:21:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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