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Posted on 04/10/2012 11:57:24 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
I predicted YEARS ago that if we did not unite behind a strong conservative...Mitt would be the nominee. I supported Sarah Palin. Yet, everytime I tried to promote her as a candidate and her values I ran into strong anti Palin sentiment from a loud minority on this web-site. I didn't settle for bumper sticker comments, so in some cases I decided to FReep mail some of these people. The question was... "Why do you dislike Palin ?"... and the answer was always something like "Well my sister and my friends think shes a dork"...
Why in the hell didn't you get in their faces and correct them ? Why in the hell did you enable Mitt Romney to become the nominee ?
Yes, Palin decided not to run. But people on ourside made it impossible for conservatives like her to have any say over the direction of the party and who the nominee would be after that. You gave the MSM control over the agenda. YOU DID !
garbage in.. garbage out...
especially so called "conservative women" who seem to swat down as many female conservatives as they can. I won't even try to understand that because it is soo irrational.
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. I’ve been trying to figure out how we got Mitt when it was clear that nobody wanted him, nobody knows what he stands for (if anything) and nobody knows what he will do if he’s elected — but it won’t be anything Conservatives want him to do... That much is a pretty safe bet.
And, you know what? I finally decided I liked it. A Hail Sarah Pass? Why not? Beats anything else we have showing right now.
Now, I was one of those most bitterly disappointed when Sarah decided not to run. Especially after her cutsie-cutsie, now-you-see-me-now-you-dont, maybe-I-will-maybe-I-wont bus tour. But what if this is/has been her plan all along?
Would it really have been a bad thing for her to decide not to subject herself to the bruising, grueling primary campaigns, knowing that at every opportunity not only would Liberal knives be pointed at her back, but that people who would normally be her supporters would find themselves in opposition to her due to prior commitments to other candidates in competition?
Ill give her a pass on that. Shes endured enough media scrutiny already, and by aiming to become the eventual Vice Presidential nominee shed be choosing a job she is confident she is ready for and would do well.
But what would a Sarah presence on the ticket actually mean?
Well for one thing, I can think of no one better than Sarah for making damn sure Mittens did not neglect Conservative values in his policies, and who would be damn willing to remind him of them if he gets too far out of line in person, in full detail, loudly.
Cant you just imagine an angry Sarah having a discussion with Romney in the Oval Office? No, Mr. President, that position does not reflect the values we were elected to represent, and you and I will hold to those values.
Maybe I just have a warped sense of humor, but I cant see Mitt getting the best of Sarah in such a situation. Shed be his schoolmarm, and hed know it. And dont tell me hed just ignore her in the way Vice Presidents are often shoved aside. Sarah wouldnt stand for it.
The first time he tried to duck her on an issue, shed march right down the hall, into the Oval Office and get right in his face. If you were a Secret Service agent would you try to stop her? Could you? You are talking about the Vice President of the United States. Plus she'd probably mention your shoe shine and tell you to wash better behind your ears.
And even if Mitt did manage to duck out a side door, do you think for one tiny moment she would not start whipping up her allies in the Tea Party wing of Congress? Calling Conservative pundits? Sarah plays hardball at that level. Any legislation Mitt wanted passed would have to have Sarahs Good Political Housekeeping Seal of Approval or it would go nowhere.
If we can't keep him from getting the nomination, putting a Mama-Grizzly watchbear on him might be the next best thing.
The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.
Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008
Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"Im told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palins people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romneys former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off .hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."
"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the Diva leak was Nicolle Wallaces husband."
McCain was the problem here more than Palin.. Bottom line is, America has been brainwashed with so much anti-conservatism in the media and on TV that even conservatives feel wrong about supporting conservatives. Years of liberal psy-ops has taken its toll on America. The schools have churned out more socialists than we could ever possibly enlighten.
The psychology would be that most of America knows they got ripped off with Obama, so they’ll decide to do in 2012 what they made the mistake of NOT doing in 2008.. SARAH FOR VP! Should’a done it the FIRST time!
In other words, beautiful women make good secretaries, receptionist or housewives. But once in a position of power, and other women will loathe and even hate them as they now feel threatened by these women and (irrationally) fear that they will steal their men away from them.
Again, I don't understand the psychology behind it but I have heard variations of the above too many times to dispel it as nonsense. I think that is the real reason Palin decided not to run and thus may never run for president.
Ironically, should the vote be take away from women, conservative women like Palin would do very well in elections. Could we live in a world where women are not allowed to vote (due to their irrational emotions) yet could still run for public office and be elected by men? It is interesting to speculate about but unlikely to ever happen.
I wanted Romney not McCain in 2008.
Now we need to get behind him and push him to the right.
The majority of GOP voters are with me on this...
OBAMA OR ROMNEY: THE REPUBLIC FAILS EITHER WAY
The majority of conservatives agree with Dr. Alan Keyes. Trust me on this. They will get angry at something Romney does by August and throw him overboard, those who say they will vote for me. There should be a screaming match at the convention.
This party is divided and friction is destined to come to a head sooner rather than later.
OBAMA OR ROMNEY: THE REPUBLIC FAILS EITHER WAY
The majority of conservatives agree with Dr. Alan Keyes. Trust me on this. They will get angry at something Romney does by August and throw him overboard, those who say they will vote for him. There should be a screaming match at the convention.
This party is divided and friction is destined to come to a head sooner rather than later.
People who consider themselves conservatives have made a lot of foolish choices this year. Some have voted for RonPaul, some for Romney, some for Santorum, some for Rick Perry.
Romney has the moderate and liberal Republicans and he has benefited from the fracturing of the conservative vote.
Then you may count me with the minority.
Mitt = ObamaLite
I really hate that guy.
I love Sarah Palin. Romney is a tool.
I agree with you.
However it’s also partly why I think (if) Romney ends up our nominee, it’s an indicator that the “Romney is unelectable” meme is wrong.
How was it you ran into the wall of anti-Palin sentiment?
I believe you ran into Mitt supporters, posing otherwise. Which shows how methodical and organized they are. There are not many of them left anymore on this site, but they’re still elsewhere. Not a few in the media.
I resent what Romney’s flunkies did to Palin, but I grudgingly admit they seem to be effective.
Let’s root for Newt to pull off a miracle and get this thing to a brokered convention.
Where on earth do some of you people get this crazy stuff? It's like your living in an alternate universe, somewhere that the rest of us are unaware of and where political realities don't exist.
Sarah Palin is not angling for VP. Sarah Palin is not going to be on the ticket. There is no "Hail Sarah Pass". She is not going to run for VP again. She wouldn't want it even if it were offered to her (which it never, ever will be because her celebrity status would overshadow any nominee). It is simply not going to happen. Let it go.
Palin will do her part to defeat Hussein. She is ABO. She will support and campaign for Willard - not because she likes him, but because getting Obama out of the White House is just that important.
Thanks, Mitt. Nice post.
My post had nothing to do with Willard.
I'm sorry if you can't accept the fact that this delusion some people have that Sarah Palin is going to be on the ticket is utterly and completely ridiculous.
>>...You gave the MSM control over the agenda....<<
It occurs to me that despite the record high disatisfaction the public has with congress and the presidency, the majority of voters (yes, even some “conservatives”) confuse the MSM’s propaganda/bias/spin for “critical thinking”. Those voters (election after election) line up and vote just like the MSM and the pundits tell them to vote. Look at the majority support Romney is enjoying as an example.
Anyone with two brain-cells to rub together can not possibly think the Obama administration is “good for America”. But that is exactly what the MSM is going to tell us. Who knows when the knives will come out for Romney, but as soon as he appears inevitable, he will get his turn in the MSM meat-grinder and I doubt he’s got the grit to either withstand it or push back effectively.
All those malleable voters (on the left AND the right) will swallow the MSM’s spin hook, line and sinker and vote like they are told. We see that election after election with *very* few exceptions. The supposed “unfair influence” of the super-PACs have *nothing* on the “unfair influence” of the MSM.
If anyone has any ideas on how to change that, speak now. We have four years to work on it. It’s likely too late to affect this election much...
FR is an echo chamber. Reality is much different. Sarah Palin is not running. She was damaged by the MSM and that’s a fact of life.
Remember around 50% of the people approve of Obama.
It would be nice to have an electorate that wants a hard core conservative pushing a hard core conservative platform. But we have to deal with the electorate we have, not the one we wish we had.
That means setting realistic goals and building a realistic coalition to win an actual election.
There is no white knight coming.
As a woman, I have to say that way of female-thinking makes no sense to me. My husband thinks Sarah Palin is beautiful, and it doesn't bother me a bit---she IS!
The women in my husband's family mystify me, though. They are all very beautiful women, even my MIL as she ages, and they used to adore Sarah. Now they can't stand her. I can't figure it out.
Now if a male employee came to me and said he would refuse to report to a female manager, we would have an HR issue. But with woman employees, it's just not worth the battle and most male managers don't mind having female employees report under them so it kind of works out.
My wife says it's the "Queen Bee" syndrome but she can't put into words what that means (that makes sense to me). She also prefers having a male manager because she hates having to report to another woman.
I am no expert on women (no man is, obviously), but I had thought that as VP Sarah might be less unappealing to that aspect of female psychology than she would be at the top of the ticket simply because she would be subordinate to a man (the President) in a relationship where she could act as a positive influence, a conscience and a backbone in places where he (especially if it is Mitt) would definitely need one.
I. DO. NOT. TRUST. MITT. ROMNEY!!!
That being said, it does look like he is going to be the nominee. If he IS the nominee and he doesn’t have a firm hand watching him, it’s going to be a charlie-fox, even if we win. With Sarah on the ticket, I would feel much safer and more confident that he would do what he was elected to do because she would make his life pure Hell if he didn’t.
Now, people have talked a lot about Colonel West. My problem with the Colonel is that he is a colonel. He’s safety-wired into the “yessir” mode when it comes to orders from on high. I don’t think he would be inclined to object strenuously when Mitt veered into mushy RINO territory. He would, however, be perfect as SecState or even SecDef.
Republicans gather into cells, each with its own pet agendae, and each with the short-sightedness that keeps them from uniting behind a common theme
OTOH, the leftists have had a clear aim - take over the reins of power - and have worked diligently and shrewdly towards that aim. We're stuck with proving a negative - that less government will solve more problems than statism. Lost in the shuffle are such ideas as liberty, the rights of the individual, the tragedy of the commons, etc.
I love Allen West, but I never thought about that aspect of his military training...you make a good point. Personally, I wouldn’t want to see him or Sarah associated with that rattlesnake Romney. IMO, he wouldn’t pick her in the first place; there was an article here on FR about his remarks that a brokered convention would be full of “evangelicals and people like Sarah Palin.” I think he looks down on her. And, I believe Sarah has said she would not accept the #2 job again.
LOL!!! I just had a crazy thought. West as SecDef, striding into the Pentagon on the first day after his confirmation...
Th Chairborne Brigade would freak! Lots of Generals and Admirals would be turning in papers quick. Going to be some new blood promoted upstairs. Time for the sandbox combat vet generation to get their stars.
Now, with Sarah keeping an eye on Mitt, and West shepherding the political commissars out the door, close your eyes and imagine when he starts shutting down the useless feel-goodie stuff and supporting the men and women in uniform in ways that are real and show our genuine gratitude.
It’s a nice fantasy. I’d love to see it come true.
Wish I had a dollar every time I've seen this. Been seeing this since 1964.
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