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Evangelicals will vote for Mormon Mitt Romney, says Southern Baptist leader
Daily Caller ^ | 4/11/2012 | Carolline May

Posted on 04/11/2012 6:54:38 PM PDT by svxdave

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will have little trouble courting the evangelical vote, Southern Baptist Convention leader Richard Land told The Daily Caller during a Wednesday interview.

“I don’t think Romney will have any kind of a problem — unless he picks a non-social conservative running mate — he should be okay,” Land, president of Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Committee, said about concerns that Romney’s Mormon faith could turn off evangelicals.

According to Land, evangelicals are extremely concerned about the possibility of a second Obama term and are energized to vote against him.

Land cited Obama’s hot mic moment with outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, in which Obama said he would have “more flexibility” after the election to discuss issues like missile defense, as one reason for evangelical anti-Obama sentiment.

“I cannot tell you how important that Russia comment was because it feeds into the fears that evangelicals have that there is a radical inside Obama that is straining to get out and once he doesn’t have to ever face the voters again — the day after the election they are going to be confronted with a Jekyll and Hyde situation,” he said. “Whatever concerns they have about Romney pale in comparison to their worries about a second Obama term.”

While evangelicals might be okay with voting for a Mormon, Land said that the media will likely make a big deal out of Romney’s faith to draw independents away from the former governor.

“[The Media] are going to trot out every exotic belief of Mormonism you can find. Baptism of the dead, etc., in the hopes that the strangeness of it will drive independents away from Romney,” he said.

Ads by Google In Defense of Mormons Connect With Other Mormons Online. Photos, Testimonials, Email & More! www.LDSsingles.com Land explained that most evangelicals are already well aware of Mormon teachings — pastors often teach about the Book of Mormon as an inoculation against door-to-door Mormon missionaries. Independents, he said, are likely not as aware of certain unorthodox beliefs.

When asked if he believes evangelicals will have a problem voting for Romney, Land responded, “I don’t.” He added, however, that if Romney picks a pro-choice, non-social conservative running mate he will face more difficulties courting that vote.

The potential vice presidential candidate that would give Romney the biggest boost, according to Land, would be noted pro-life Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

Land also mentioned Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie as acceptable running mate options.

Land asserted that a person’s faith does play a role in their decision-making process and that he anticipates Romney’s Mormon faith will inform his decisions if elected. To Land that’s not a problem.

“Most the Mormons I know are decent, God-fearing, honest people,” he said. “I think that Romney, as a serious Mormon is far less likely to have any sexual scandals than a person who wasn’t a person of faith. He is far more likely to keep his word. Far more likely to be a role model than were he a person of no faith. I think most Americans like having a president who is aware and acknowledges he is accountable to a higher authority than himself.”

“If his Mormonism informs his policies he will be pro-life, he’s going to be pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, so far what’s the problem?” Land said.

Land does not endorse political candidates.


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I will never vote for a Spawn of Satan cult member Mormon.


81 posted on 04/11/2012 8:58:16 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: bkaycee
God cammands us to vote for an actual conservative or a write candidate? Really?? Where is that in the Bible? I am here to help defeat Obama. You?

Twisting my words are you?

Your witness is getting worse by the post.

No where did I say God commanded us to vote for anything, but as the candidate you would have us vote for is continually breaking God's laws, how do you think he feels about you voting for him?

If Jesus were standing in front of you right now, do you think he would be pleased with you supporting someone you know to have thoroughly ignored his commands?

Would he support your "deal with the devil", so to speak, because you believe the world will end tomorrow if Obama is re-elected or you believe that he is the Anti-Christ or whatever reason you are using to justify walking back from God by voting/supporting someone as wrong as Romney is from a Christian perspective?
82 posted on 04/11/2012 8:58:16 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: svxdave
this Catholic, lousy as I am, will also vote for Romney.....

IT'S THAT DANG IMPORTANT!

83 posted on 04/11/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SoConPubbie
The VAST majority of Conservatives agree with me.
The VAST majority of Republican voters agree with me.

Why do you feel the insecure need to attack my motives, or to attack me personally, for simply having the guts to call you out on your silly Jihad against Romney?

It is very easy to find Conservative Republicans who need and want your help. That is how I suggest you deal with your grieving process, at not getting what you want.

EVERY Republican on the ballot will refuse to attack Romney during the general election.

Nobody will have anything to do with you if you don't get over yourself.

I have no problem with Jim telling us not to promote Romney on FR. It is, after all, HIS site.

However, where strategy and the future of Conservatism is concerned, your efforts would be better spent trying to defeat Liberal Democrats and trying to elect Conservative Republicans. Work for candidates that you CAN support.

It is a waste of time and effort, and might cost us the House and the Senate, if your tantrum gains much support.

Mark Levin says it is over, but he is not happy with Romney and feels he is forced to support Romney against Obama.

I agree with Mark Levin, who I believe is a FREEPER as well.

Do you wish to attack his integrity as well?

84 posted on 04/11/2012 9:02:39 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Hinckley; Diogenesis
Another Obama supporter exposed.

The only Obama supporters exposed are those pimping a lying, left-wing Progressive Liberal that is guaranteed to give Obama re-election exactly because of his lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal record.

Furthermore, given that this is a conservative website devoted to defeating Mitt Romney, and given that only 46% of the delegates have been won thus far in the Primaries, why are you, whom I assume purports to be a conservative, promoting a lying, left-wing Progressive Liberal?

A sincere conservative would no more be pimping a left-wing candidate for the GOP nomination at this stage of the game, then they would be promoting Obama, so what gives?
85 posted on 04/11/2012 9:03:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: troy McClure
The “Good Samaritan” was not Jewish.

Jesus made the point that nonbelievers often put believers to shame.

I suggest a little humility, on your part.

86 posted on 04/11/2012 9:04:21 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: doc1019

So I guess that if you won’t vote for Romney then you are voting for Obama... good job with that one.


87 posted on 04/11/2012 9:06:04 PM PDT by djl_sa (Looking forward to 2012!)
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To: Kansas58
The VAST majority of Conservatives agree with me.
The VAST majority of Republican voters agree with me.


Your problem is that enough of the conservatives and Republicans and Independents don't agree with you and as a result, Obama will win.

Enough of us won't sell our soul to vote for a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal that Romney will lose badly.

Factor in the ads that Obama and the Media will be flingly at Romney 24/7 if God frowns on us and allows Romney to be the nominee, ads that will contain nothing but the truth of Romney's lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal record, and your boy Romney is going to lose in land-slide porportions.

Furthermore, I don't care what appeal to authority you use to justify your failings as a conservative.

I don't care who is supporting that lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal, if they are supporting him, they've sold their soul.
88 posted on 04/11/2012 9:07:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

PLEASE Would Jesus vote for Newt Gingrich Liberal!

Grow up. I think Jesus would have a problem with Newt as well.

Again We are not voting for a CHURCH PASTOR, or voting for approval of sin.

http://themoralcollapseofamerica.blogspot.com/2011/12/newt-gingrich-liberal.html

If you plan on voting for Newt Gingrich, please read the rest of the information below first.

The following are 10 reasons why Newt Gingrich is liberal....

#1 Newt Gingrich was promoting the principles of Obamacare before Obamacare was even invented. Republicans are supposed to be against Obamacare, and yet a huge percentage of them are supporting a candidate that was pushing an individual mandate way before Obamacare was ever even invented.

Gingrich says that he will repeal Obamacare, but back in 2008 Gingrich wrote a book entitled “Real Change” in which he endorsed an individual health care mandate.

So should we believe what Gingrich is saying now or should we believe what he has been saying for nearly 20 years?

#2 Before he was running for president, he was running around the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration.

#3 Back in 2008 Gingrich actually did a television commercial with Nancy Pelosi in which he declared that “our country must take action to address climate change”.

#4 Not only that, Gingrich also has promoted the idea of a “cap and trade” carbon trading scheme. Back in 2007, Gingrich said the following....

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”
#5 While he was in Congress, Newt Gingrich co-sponsored 418 bills with Nancy Pelosi.

#6 As we have seen during the recent debates, Gingrich openly supports amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

#7 In 2008 Newt Gingrich declared that he would have voted for the TARP bailout if he was still a member of Congress.

#8 While Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House the amount of taxes collected by the U.S. government soared from $1.001 trillion to $1.511 trillion.

#9 Newt Gingrich is a big time Washington insider that is often paid huge sums of money for doing next to nothing. Gingrich has said that he was paid $300,000 for “work” that he did for Freddie Mac, but according to Bloomberg he actually earned somewhere between $1.6 million and $1.8 million between 1999 and 2008.

#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian
ne and married the staffer.

How in the world can Republicans be supporting this guy?


89 posted on 04/11/2012 9:08:37 PM PDT by bkaycee
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To: Kansas58
Mark Levin says it is over, but he is not happy with Romney and feels he is forced to support Romney against Obama.

Let me make it real clear for you:

Mark Levin is a Surrender Monkey.
90 posted on 04/11/2012 9:08:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Now now, BKC didn’t say it was a Christian, it said it was a ‘reformed baptist’. Its posts show it is a Rominy sycophant in stealth mode trying desperately to sink Newt’s opposition to the lying socialist momron Rominy it adores.


91 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: doc1019
I would expect a better argument from ex-Navy. Unless it is in fact a faith issue.

If not, wait until $416 BILLION in taxes go into effect under Obama next January and the rest of American industry moves offshore. With the top individual rates going from 35% to 42% (federal only) and capital gains set to go from 15% to 24%, we have 16 months before a real tribulation.

I hope you don't own a small business like may on FR.

Romney's mushy social stands are abhorrent to many here, but he is far superior to Obama re:economics. After you stay home, Obama get's in and you say there is no difference between the two, enjoy your new $416 Billion tax increase.

92 posted on 04/11/2012 9:12:03 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: bkaycee

You are exposing yourself as filth. You are not God and you will not cancel Newt’s confessions to God with your tawdry deceits on FR. I don’t believe a word you post, so I think you’re a lying mormon working to assassinate Newt for your dead soul rominy. Keep posting your filth and expose yourself the more. Are you familiar with the expression ‘accuser of the brethren’? You are showing yourself to be of your father, the father of lies, the accuser of the brethren, a murderer from the start.


93 posted on 04/11/2012 9:15:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: djl_sa

Why would I burden the American people with the cost of a moving van when the one moving out is the same as the one moving in?

The only difference between Obama and Romney is their ethnic heritage.

In all good conscience, I can vote for either.


94 posted on 04/11/2012 9:15:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: muleskinner
We are not at the stage of rominy versus little barry bastard. That you are trying to cordon off the races that way tells us a lot about your presence on this thread.
95 posted on 04/11/2012 9:18:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SoConPubbie
You have NEVER had any position of any authority, in any successful political campaign, in your entire life.

Your purpose in politics seems to be warped, as you see politics as a way to affirm yourself, like some kind of “conservative hippie” getting in touch with HIS feelings!

It is not the role of politics to make you feel good, or to allow you to promote ONLY what YOU want.

Frankly, the purpose of elections, in a free society, is to AVOID decisions made at the point of a gun. We must overthrow our bad leaders at the ballot box.

When that fails? We face a brutal world of armed rebellion and bloodshed. Combat is politics by other means.

Politics should be all about AVOIDING civil war.

What can we live with? That is always the most important question.

I can live with Romney, though I am not happy with him.

I can not live with Obama for another 4 years and do very well. I am not advocating armed resistance, but I think OBAMA IS ADVOCATING DISARMING ME! I am also quite sure that Obama and Holder will RELISH armed conflict, with them, as a way to consolidate their own power over us.

Obama and Holder are tyrants.

The purpose of elections, naive Freeper is?

TO DEFEAT PEOPLE WHO ARE A THREAT TO LIBERTY!

Not to affirm your ego!

96 posted on 04/11/2012 9:19:04 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“but Gingrich is still in the race, so all this talk is still premature. OK, it’s a long shot, but while there is still hope, we shouldn’t give it up.”

I’m still for Newt as well, and if Santorum’s the complete conservative so many here think he is, he’ll throw his support to Newt to defeat Romney. But I’m betting he won’t do that, that he’ll root for Romney as he did in ‘08.

Newt knows Romney’s not great for the country but, most of all, that he can’t defeat BHO. Does Rick know it? And if so, he certainly shouldn’t support Mittens. Wonder what his fans will say when he does.

Hey, I hope I’m wrong. Newt would have a real shot if he had RS’s delegates and endorsement. He already has Cain, Perry and some other impressive, conservative supporters.

And he’d definitely, fearlessly take the fight to BHO - we can’t depend on Romney to, unfortunately.


97 posted on 04/11/2012 9:26:14 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: svxdave
Question: Do you know why Baptists never make love standing up?

Answer: Someone might think they're dancing...

do you know why I left the baptist church....

Too legalistic and full of themselves

I am not a sheep, I will choose whom I will choose.

I ain't voting for Obama (in white face) Romney or the Kenyan.

98 posted on 04/11/2012 9:29:14 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: bkaycee
PLEASE Would Jesus vote for Newt Gingrich Liberal!

Grow up. I think Jesus would have a problem with Newt as well.

. . . . . .

#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian ne and married the staffer.


You've posted crap that we have all been warned against posting, furthermore, Newt has publicly stated that he has repented of this and asked God for forgiveness.

And yet Mitt lied about having a Pro-Life conversion because he then went and nominated an extreme Abortion supporter and still supported stem-cell research.

Mitt has never been honest and has continually lied about his implementing Gay Marriage unconstitutionally in MA.

Mitt has continually lied about his opponents in the Primaries and to this day is still practicing bearing false witness against his neighbor.

Mitt lied when he stated at CPAC that "I have always been Pro-Life."

Mitt lied when he statede at CPAC that "I was a severely conservative governor of MA".



#1 Newt Gingrich was promoting the principles of Obamacare before Obamacare was even invented. Republicans are supposed to be against Obamacare, and yet a huge percentage of them are supporting a candidate that was pushing an individual mandate way before Obamacare was ever even invented.

Gingrich says that he will repeal Obamacare, but back in 2008 Gingrich wrote a book entitled “Real Change” in which he endorsed an individual health care mandate.

So should we believe what Gingrich is saying now or should we believe what he has been saying for nearly 20 years?


Your problem is that your boy Mitt Romney is not backing away from the individual mandate and that his campaign staff is telling everyone that Mitt want's to implement RomneyCare in all 50 States and furthermore, his campaign staff is stating that there are parts of ObamaCare that will not need to be repealed.

Once again, which Romney do we believe?

#9 Newt Gingrich is a big time Washington insider that is often paid huge sums of money for doing next to nothing. Gingrich has said that he was paid $300,000 for “work” that he did for Freddie Mac, but according to Bloomberg he actually earned somewhere between $1.6 million and $1.8 million between 1999 and 2008.

Another Mitt Romney lie debunked by Newt himself. You must be a Romney operative.

Relationship with Freddie Mac

Recent reporting from Bloomberg News on the Gingrich Group’s consulting services for Freddie Mac confirms that Gingrich and his firm were not paid to lobby and that Gingrich never acted as an advocate to stop any legislation or regulation affecting Freddie Mac.

After leaving public office, Newt Gingrich founded a number of very successful small businesses. One of these small businesses, a consulting firm called The Gingrich Group, offered strategic advice on a wide variety of topics to a very wide range of clients. One of these clients was Freddie Mac. At no time did Gingrich lobby for Freddie Mac, or for any client, and neither did anyone in Gingrich’s firm. This prohibition against lobbying was made clear to all Gingrich Group clients. Nor did Gingrich ever advocate against pending legislation affecting Freddie Mac, as some articles have incorrectly alleged. In fact, recent reporting from Bloomberg News on the Gingrich Group’s consulting services for Freddie Mac confirms that Gingrich and his firm were not paid to lobby and that Gingrich never acted as an advocate to stop any legislation or regulation affecting Freddie Mac.

Furthermore, as the New York Times documents, Newt urged House Republicans to vote against the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. View Newt’s Freddie Mac consulting contract here.


#6 As we have seen during the recent debates, Gingrich openly supports amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

As we have seen from Romney, he is on record supporting McCain-Kennedy and seperately stating that those here illegally should be legalized (Amnesty). Again, which Mitt are we to believe?

#2 Before he was running for president, he was running around the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration.

Another distortion from the Romney campaign, are you sure you're not Mitt Romney? We're hearing all the decietful, lying crap that Romney has used in his decietful character assasination against Newt. Following is the truth on this issue, the truth you convienently left out.

Education Tour with Al Sharpton and Arnie Duncan

Newt has long been an ardent supporter of empowering parents to choose the best school for their children by removing power from educational bureaucracies and unions.

A critical first step in empowering parents is to vastly expand the number of charter schools, which are now artificially limited by caps set by bureaucrats. Newt will with work with anyone, regardless of political affiliation, who shares his pro-family conviction that it is the parents’ right to send their student to a charter school of their choice. In 2009, Rev. Al Sharpton and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan – two prominent figures on the Left – decided that they agreed with the Gingrich position, and the group appeared in several events together promoting the charter school movement. Newt was not endorsing any other initiatives, including the Obama Administration’s so-called “Race to the Top.”


#8 While Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House the amount of taxes collected by the U.S. government soared from $1.001 trillion to $1.511 trillion.

And what does that have to do with anything? Did you forget the Contract with America, he promised and delivered on 9 of the 10 items on that contract.

#4 Not only that, Gingrich also has promoted the idea of a “cap and trade” carbon trading scheme. Back in 2007, Gingrich said the following....

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”


And yet Mitt didn't just mouth support for a Carbon Cap-and-Trade system, he created one.

Once again, given your support for a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal, and given the regurgitation of a lot of crap from the Romney campaign, I ask you, who are you working for?

An GOP-E related organization or a Romney related organization?

99 posted on 04/11/2012 9:35:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: bkaycee; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian ne and married the staffer.


I thought we had a moratorium on the posting of this type of low-life gutter garbage?
100 posted on 04/11/2012 9:37:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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