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4/14/12 | Self

Posted on 04/14/2012 11:40:37 PM PDT by Talisker

It's struck me that JimRob's absolute RomneyZot has created a situation rarely seen in the world, especially on a mass scale: a koan.

A koan is a technique used in Zen Buddhism to stop the endless thoughts of the mind, and thereby enable a genuine spiritual breakthrough when the ego finally shuts the hell up. Traditionally, this is done by giving the acolyte an impossible question, and demanding an answer.

While somewhat inverse tactically, JimRob has created a similiar situation on Free Republic. Freepers are already faced with an impossible situation politically, and JimRob has (at least on FR) removed the easiest answer.

Real koans are not merely trick questions, as most people think (you can even buy books with "answers" to traditional Japanese koan questions, so clueless is what passes for understanding these days). Rather, koans are a method by which a person is forced to examine their most fundamental assumptions, in a desperate attempt to resolve the pressure of the paradox. As result, a more profound understanding is eventually reached that sheds light on what usually is realized to be a self-created cycle of delusion. In politics however, cycles of misery are exactly what the Left was created to maintain, precisely to deny the clarity that would lead to freedom.

So JimRob's making Freepers sweat it out. This is a remarkable thing - and rare. And I predict it will lead to a whole new level of clarity about political dynamics here, because that's what happens when you stand your ground and say: "Enough." You drop the self-indulgence, because you simply can't afford it anymore. And isn't that a perfect paradigm for what needs to happen in America?

Which brings me to my trademark mixed metaphor. Once upon a time, two frogs fell into a cup of milk. They could paddle around, but couldn't reach the rim. As time went on, they grew exhausted, and one of the frogs decided the whole effort was pointless, and despite the entreaties of his friend, he gave up, and drowned. But the other frog kept going, determined never to quit, despite how bad things looked. To that frog, it was the principle of the thing, even if he drowned too. So he paddled on... and just when he was about over, to his amazement, he felt something under his foot. It was a clot of cream he had churned through his incessant paddling. And he was able to brace upon it, and hop out.

So here's another koan: after going though that experience, who did the frog vote for?


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1 posted on 04/14/2012 11:40:41 PM PDT by Talisker
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To: Talisker

We’re not in Kansas anymore, Toto.


2 posted on 04/14/2012 11:43:38 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: Talisker
...who did the frog vote for?

Ronald Reagan.

3 posted on 04/14/2012 11:49:41 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Talisker
Mrs. O'Leary?

No, I would say a conservative candidate. The frog is obviously determined, driven, and self-reliant. He (?) wouldn't want some nanny state taking care of him, or telling him he didn't have a license to make butter.

4 posted on 04/14/2012 11:51:31 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Talisker

Pass that ball of tar and the pipe grasshopper

Screw all that deep shite

Let’s get high..


5 posted on 04/14/2012 11:52:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Talisker

What’s an absolute Romneyzot? (I suppose I could find out by searching or if I read everything here daily but I don’t want to - no offense)


6 posted on 04/14/2012 11:52:34 PM PDT by nakutny
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To: nakutny

Pimp Willard on this website and you’ll find out.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 11:55:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Talisker

William F. Buckley had a solution to this koan: vote for the most conservative candidate who has a real chance of winning.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 11:57:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: wardaddy
Screw all that deep shite

Agreed, wardaddy. I think the Southern Gospel group, The Imperials, summed it up well:


Well, Old Buddha was a man and I'm sure that he meant well
But I pray for his disciples lest they wind up in hell
And I'm sure that old Mohammed thought he knew the way
But it won't be Hare Krishna we stand before on The Judgment Day.

No, it won't be old Buddha that's sitting on the throne
And it won't be old Mohammed that's calling us Home
And it won't be Hare Krishna that plays that trumpet tune
And we're going to see The Son not Reverend Moon!

Well, I don't hate anybody so please don't take me wrong
But there really is a message to this simple song
You see there's only one way Jesus if eternal life is your goal
Meditation of the mind won't save your soul.

No, it won't be old Buddha that's sitting on the throne
And it won't be old Mohammed that's calling us Home
And it won't be Hare Krishna that plays that trumpet tune
And we're going to see The Son, not Reverend Moon!

Well, you can call yourself a Baptist and not be born again
A Presbyterian or a Methodist and still die in your sin
You can even be Charismatic shout and dance and jump a few
But if you hate your brother you wont be one of The Chosen Few.

Cause it won't be a Baptist that's sitting on The Throne
A Presbyterian or a Methodist that's calling us Home
And it won't be a Charismatic that plays that trumpet tune
So let's all just live for Jesus 'cause He's coming back real soon.

9 posted on 04/14/2012 11:57:39 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Talisker

Obama. The milk came from a hard working MOM. The constant aggitation of the stupid frog is just another example of reaping the rewards of another’s work.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 11:57:46 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: wardaddy

I’m trying to get a clam bake going on in here.


11 posted on 04/15/2012 12:03:04 AM PDT by Newt 2012 (Voted for Clinton in 92 (my first election) and the Republican Revolution in 1994!)
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To: Talisker

Since he was an agitator, he obviously picked the most Liberal candidate on the slate.


12 posted on 04/15/2012 12:05:38 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Talisker
If you VISIT someones home or business, and they don't want you to throw up on the floor, or pee in the plants you either don't visit or don't throw up on the floor, or pee in the plants.
Like the mythical home you can obey the rules, or don't visit. Get it? Your only choice as a visitor is stick to the rules of the site or don't visit. Your decision is whether you get enough from the site to stick to the rules, or well... leave.

Nothing zen like, or anything along those lines. As a visitor you either like enough of what you see, or you don't. If you feel like posting something against the rules of this house, get a blog and say what you want. Otherwise play it cool.

Have a nice visit. Just don't throw up on the rug or pee in the plants.
13 posted on 04/15/2012 12:08:17 AM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: re_nortex
I hear ya

Not my best night ever to be honest

Lying on a heating pad nursing a soft tissue abscess in my left hip the size of a sweet tater and tentacling about.....must be 5 pounds of liquefying mush in there
Refuses to carbuncle anymore.... just traveling about

Going thru a bad prolonged chill about now

Sheet drenching sweats to come later

My 9 year old is worried about me and sleeping by the bed

Surgery next week is a given....i did not want to be warehoused at hospital over weekend

Dosed up on percs for pain and augmntin

14 posted on 04/15/2012 12:17:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: re_nortex; Travis McGee; dixiechick2000; Black Agnes; Pelham; Squantos; Twink

Btw...i have a newfound appreciation for wounded folks prior to penicillin

I have been nursing two such leaking wounds a year now....

Nights are worse

Ok...enuff whining


15 posted on 04/15/2012 12:21:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Talisker
Well, let's see. Since frog #1 is almost certainly lying about bracing himself on a clot of cream, but he did get out of the cup, he probably braced himself on something else. And what else was in the cup? The body of frog #2. I think that frog #1 probably planned the whole thing: Kill frog #2, use its body for leverage to escape, then to avoid a murder rap, lie about frog #2 "giving up."

As for his voting, frogs can't vote. That means that frog #1 can't vote for Romney and he can't vote for Obama. Just like a certain group of Freepers who I thought had more sense.

16 posted on 04/15/2012 12:22:21 AM PDT by TChad
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To: wardaddy
Not my best night ever to be honest

Even when you're not at the top of your game, your posts are always worthwhile reading. Meanwhile, I'll be praying for a quick recovery as James 5:16 reminds us:

The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

May God richly bless you!

17 posted on 04/15/2012 12:22:31 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Thank you and God bless u too

All of us....like little Timmy said


18 posted on 04/15/2012 12:25:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy


19 posted on 04/15/2012 12:28:33 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Talisker

If Obama gets re-elected all the frogs will be Communists.

And we will then be forced to ponder the what-ifs from our re-education camps.

As long as I have a vote I intend to use it.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” — Edmund Burke (and more recently, a favorite quote of George Zimmerman)


20 posted on 04/15/2012 12:31:04 AM PDT by zipper (espions sur les occupants)
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To: wardaddy
Surgery next week is a given....i did not want to be warehoused at hospital over weekend

Dosed up on percs for pain and augmntin


Hey WarDaddy, I'll be praying for you.
21 posted on 04/15/2012 12:31:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: An.American.Expatriate

My guess was Captain America.


22 posted on 04/15/2012 12:37:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: wardaddy
"Not my best night ever to be honest...."

Wow, I feel bad you are having to go through what sounds like a completely unbearable experience wardaddy. Here's to hoping you find relief soon!

The percs probably help but in my experience they don't really "relieve" any pain, they just make it so you don't give a "biden" about it, or at least make your hair go numb which can be entertaining.

23 posted on 04/15/2012 12:37:44 AM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: wardaddy

Prayers up for your abscess.


24 posted on 04/15/2012 12:39:14 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Talisker

I agree.

It took a great deal of honesty to make this declaration, especially while running a fund raiser.

Shows me he is honest about his position even though it will make Free Republic smaller- for a while.

Conservatives need to let go of the GOP. One good offering every 100 years or so should be a strong indication that they are not conservative by choice but rather by convenience.


25 posted on 04/15/2012 12:41:21 AM PDT by KSanders
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26 posted on 04/15/2012 12:45:00 AM PDT by devolve (------- ------------insanity_is_alive_and_malignant------------)
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To: Talisker
Why didn't frog #2 just brace himself on the dead frog's corpse and jump out?

Sorry, I'm Vajrayana not Zen. ;^)

27 posted on 04/15/2012 12:46:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: wardaddy
Going thru a bad prolonged chill about now
Sheet drenching sweats to come later

Does your physician know about the chills/sweats? You could be septic, and if so, that can kill you. It sounds like you belong in a hospital.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2341561_identify-sepsis.html

28 posted on 04/15/2012 12:49:15 AM PDT by TChad
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To: wardaddy

Sounds horrible... I hope you get the right treatment and feeling better soon. Prayers.


29 posted on 04/15/2012 12:53:24 AM PDT by Newt 2012 (Voted for Clinton in 92 (my first election) and the Republican Revolution in 1994!)
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To: TChad
I know what you're trying to say. Why don't you just come right out and say it?

If 0bama had a son he would look like frog #2.

30 posted on 04/15/2012 12:55:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: re_nortex

I Love the song. Here it is, Enjoy.
http://youtu.be/yQxjmsRo_UU


31 posted on 04/15/2012 1:09:01 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: TigersEye
If 0bama had a son he would look like frog #2.

That's good, and I would normally be happy to play, but wardaddy's posts have me worried.

Wardaddy should to go to the hospital immediately unless his physician knows about the chills and fever and has OKed him staying at home. Not all bacteria are killed by Augmentin.

32 posted on 04/15/2012 1:13:06 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Talisker

The frog voted conservative down ticket where possible.

Then he fished out his dead buddy and gave him a proper Christian burial.


33 posted on 04/15/2012 1:16:33 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If you quit you don't get your miracle.)
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To: Yardstick
William F. Buckley had a solution to this koan: vote for the most conservative candidate who has a real chance of winning.

Voting for the lesser of two evils means you're still voting for evil. The question becomes - do we embolden conservatives in Congress by being the opposition party, or do we empower RINOs into shoving even more liberal dung down our throats?

I'm voting for Newt. Piss on these lesser of two evils, I'm choosing a good man.

34 posted on 04/15/2012 1:20:36 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: zipper
And we will then be forced to ponder the what-ifs from our re-education camps.

Why would they do that if you vote for a liberal? Obama or Romney, both think that Mommy Government is the best, and will rule your lives with the power of your tax dollars, and when that's not enough, they'll hawk everything you own, and then add more debt atop it, just in case you earn more later.

35 posted on 04/15/2012 1:22:53 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: TChad

I know but I can’t do much about that. I’ve been doing practice for him since I read the post.


36 posted on 04/15/2012 1:24:03 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: wardaddy

Assuming that your doctor doesn’t know about those sweats and chills, let me add my voice to the get-to-a-hospital chorus. Immediately. Seriously.


37 posted on 04/15/2012 1:26:10 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: wardaddy

You might look into taking oregano oil for it, topically and by mouth. Oil of oregano can wipe out infections... I had a bad MRSA infection that antibiotics couldn’t touch, and oregano oil beat it in two days. Health food stores carry it in little blue bottles. Ask for doctor first, just in case it might conflict with something you’re already taking.


38 posted on 04/15/2012 1:29:57 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Slings and Arrows; wardaddy

wardaddy, I’m with Slings and Arrows on this one. If you’re having chills that bad you need to get to a hospital.


39 posted on 04/15/2012 1:33:40 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Talisker
The frog voted for Obama because the frog is Obama. There was no created ball of cream from his hard work, just a selfish, lying, Marxist frog that convinced the masses both frogs were the same because they had landed in the same glass of milk. He quickly dispatched of his foe and used his floating dead body to jump out. After disposing of the body of his enemy, he redistributed the milk and spent another Trillion to get more milk and cups to those on the liberal Lilly pads, to be used drown all of the in- fighting conservative and GOP frogs and declare himself King.

But all is not lost! A wayward frog happened to come across the “dead” frog and performed CPR. The Obama frog was to stupid to be sure his foe was truly deceased, and counted his tadpoles before they were
hatched. The supposed dead frog was reportedly seen drinking Tea at some sort of Party.

40 posted on 04/15/2012 1:45:00 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: wardaddy

Saying a prayer for your healing.


41 posted on 04/15/2012 2:18:51 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Talisker

Good thing it wasn’t skim milk.


42 posted on 04/15/2012 2:32:33 AM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: TigersEye

Or one of them boost themselves out with the others’ help, then go get a rope?


43 posted on 04/15/2012 2:34:15 AM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: Talisker
LOL...a RomneyZot to calm the monkey mind.
44 posted on 04/15/2012 3:30:16 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: KSanders; Talisker
I agree.

It took a great deal of honesty to make this declaration, especially while running a fund raiser.

Shows me he is honest about his position even though it will make Free Republic smaller- for a while.

Conservatives need to let go of the GOP. One good offering every 100 years or so should be a strong indication that they are not conservative by choice but rather by convenience.


Praise God! You "get it!"! God bless both of you.

Our Founder and Leader is truly a man of integrity and honesty. He didn't wait until our 2nd Quarter FReepathon was completed to post his reminders to the membership about Free Republic's positions regarding Romney and the GOP-E. Our Jim is always up front and forthright.

We will meet our financial goals and needs; it just might take a little longer. FReepers are the absolute best. FReepers always come through for Jim and their (our) forum, Free Republic.

Some have left and some still might leave, but after hurt feelings are soothed, and a cooling down period has taken place, --- and after reflection, many will return with better appreciation of conservative principles and ideals.

Life long FRiends are made here, each and every day. FReeper events across the country have allowed many of us to meet one another over the years and that's not easily thrown away.

You're a very astute new member! Free Republic is not an arm of the GOP. You're right! We are Conservatives, not necessarily Republicans! I think that's the divide and the causation of hurt feelings and confusion. I think, hope and pray, all will settle in time.

Thanks very much, KSanders!
45 posted on 04/15/2012 4:46:02 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: wardaddy
Praise God, it's not your heart.
You have my prayers for a successfully surgery and I hope you get to the hospital pronto!
46 posted on 04/15/2012 4:49:06 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Talisker

47 posted on 04/15/2012 5:04:20 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Yardstick
Buckley was, on occasion, in extreme error.

The answer ~ the CORRECT ANSWER ~ is for the less Conservative candidates to drop out of the race.

Their failure to do so should be held against them in future political endeavors.

We should also punish those who supported less Conservative candidates ~ brutally so ~

48 posted on 04/15/2012 5:08:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TigersEye

That’s just what I was thinking.


49 posted on 04/15/2012 5:10:01 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: kingu

“Voting for the lesser of two evils means you’re still voting for evil. ... I’m voting for Newt. Piss on these lesser of two evils, I’m choosing a good man.”

But you are still voting for the ‘lesser of two evils’ aren’t you? There is no such thing as a perfect man or perfect candidate and all candidates contain at least some evil. Any vote must therefore be a vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’. Why do you even vote?


50 posted on 04/15/2012 5:15:33 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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