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Keep Ready Cash! Money Markets are Dead.
Vanity ^ | April 17, 2012 | BROKER

Posted on 04/17/2012 7:37:52 PM PDT by Broker

Should our fine financial system cease functioning cash will become a rare and precious medium. Over the years Americans have exchanged paper currency with confidence. Yet, today everyone's cash is a digital value out of hand. Our vast nationwide cash money market holdings greatly exceed any paper currency supply making any Bank run a momentary event. Should the financial house of cards crash, holders of green back US Dollars will be able to engage in trade. Gold hoarders will not know what to do. Credit cards won't work. Checks won't either. If you can't barter, cash will be king. Get cash and stash it. Money markets pay nothing and can't truly guarantee any liquidity when you really need it.

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KEYWORDS: cash; gold; goldsilver; mattressbank; money; preppers; survival
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Recommend your stash be in $20s, $10s, $5s and $1s. Keep it safe.
1 posted on 04/17/2012 7:38:03 PM PDT by Broker
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To: Broker

What’s your 20?


2 posted on 04/17/2012 7:39:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

$20s = 2 inches height


3 posted on 04/17/2012 7:41:49 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Broker

“Recommend your stash be in $20s, $10s, $5s and $1s. Keep it safe.”

You are 100% correct. Hand me your stash and I’ll keep it safe.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 7:42:57 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Broker

except the usually when TSHTF like it has before, it took a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy anything

the government will keep the printing presses running overtime


5 posted on 04/17/2012 7:44:45 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Broker

cash will be nothing more than paper to light a fire. gasoline will be non existant and if you had it, it and you car would be quickly stolen if caught driving down the road.

food, ammo, guns, clothes, firewood, vitamins, medicine, fresh water will be the ONLY currency.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 7:45:13 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Broker

When it does hit the fan, cash will be nothing but kindling and toilet paper.


7 posted on 04/17/2012 7:46:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Mr. K

Great point but we live in a digital world today, it was ALL CASH then.
. In our future, nobody will have cash. Nobody has wheel barrows either .. What ever they are?


8 posted on 04/17/2012 7:49:19 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Hammerhead

Toilet paper is the poor man’s gold. Liquid detergent is liquid gold. They’ll probably work too.


9 posted on 04/17/2012 7:49:19 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind;)
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To: Broker

I think you’ll be right on for....about two weeks. A month, tops.


10 posted on 04/17/2012 7:51:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Hammerhead

To the extreme your have all approach is correct. But if you need to trade and can’t barter cash option is useful. You might make a friend and remain locked and loaded.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:53 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Broker

Old cash is good for toilet paper, but you have to sterilize it first. New cash is great for patching holes in you shoes. You know it is made from cotton?

But seriously, gold and silver coin.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:53 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: bgill
When it does hit the fan, cash will be nothing but kindling and toilet paper.

22lr, 9mm, 40SW, 45ACP, 38sp, 223Rem, 308Win, 7.62x39 -- the new currency.

13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:54:56 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Hammerhead

“food, ammo, guns, clothes, firewood, vitamins, medicine, fresh water will be the ONLY currency.”

Just like Mad max and Book of Eli.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 7:57:17 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Broker

Coins will be more valuable


15 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:02 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Broker

Coins will be more valuable


16 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:12 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Broker
Keep thinking that.

I'll take my chances with 30.06 hardball.


17 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:24 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Born to Conserve

Show an active precious metal/coin market operating today used directly for goods and services please. You gold coin for a loaf of bread? You will use your gun before spending the gold. Tell me you wouldn’t .


18 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:56 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: All

Dome shaped lead coins about 9mm in diameter are going to be the currency of the day in the not too distant future.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:24 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Mr. K
>"the government will keep the printing presses running overtime"

Shh..... That's Jug Ears Secrit "Cut the deficit in half trick"!

20 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Who would have ever imagined comparing our economy to Zimbabwe? They have no credit there, pure cash economy. Got wheel barrows.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 8:02:33 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Mr. K
except the usually when TSHTF like it has before, it took a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy anything

the government will keep the printing presses running overtime


My understanding, which could be wrong, is that the printing presses are already running at capacity, just to meet demand, and that there is no realistic way for the government to print quickly enough to compensate for a full-blown deflationary collapse. In the earlier events you were referring too, the volume of digital "cash" was relatively low, whereas with the US dollar, the vast majority of US dollars are digital.

So this time may be different after all. A debt crisis which, for physical and practical reasons, does not result in the collapse of the physical currency.

Interesting times, and all that.
22 posted on 04/17/2012 8:03:09 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Broker

Taking large sums of cash out will trigger IRS attention, likewise, so will depositing large sums of cash into the bank. You still do need some cash in the event of an emergency now because it is still the most acceptable medium of exchange. Of course, if you run a business, you must maintain a bank account, but with the election looming, it might be safe not to keep too much money in your checking or savings in the event that Hussein wins and the bank runs ensue.


23 posted on 04/17/2012 8:06:28 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Broker

“Gold hoarders will not know what to do”

Sure. Trade it for cash.

There are those that would say you can’t eat cash and you can’t shoot it from a gun so why bother with it.

BTW, I don’t think you understand what a Money Market is if you think it is related to printed currency.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 8:07:50 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it ain't Newt, we're screwt !)
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To: jjsheridan5

Thank you that comment. Money supply is a HUGE digital phenomena. Paper currency is a minuscule value. America is a paperless economy with participants largely in debt. Getting the picture ?


25 posted on 04/17/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Broker

“Nobody has wheel barrows either .. What ever they are?”

I have 2 of them so I guess i’ll be in good shape!


26 posted on 04/17/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Broker
"Who would have ever imagined comparing our economy to Zimbabwe?"

Printed dollars are simply pieces of paper with pretty designs on them. Bangladesh? Ooh! Kyrgyzstan? Aah!

Some have no zeros, others have many. All are marginal, at best, for personal hygiene.

When the event horizon is reached, the Cleavers will be speechless.

27 posted on 04/17/2012 8:15:07 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Broker

The gold is for wealth preservation,,,, not the day after a crash to expect to walk around using it like normal money. Your normal human prepping (food,,ammo, etc) should allow you to bridge the gap,,, and then a few months later walk into the new paradigm with wealth preserved via gold.

That said,, there is a certain logic to your position. Though the government can print all they want,, or suddenly retire it to be replaced with a the new Amero etc,,, i think there would indeed be a short period where having a reasonable supply of cash is wise.

The knock of gold that its hard to spend for a loaf of bread, is indeed a difficulty **to an extent**. But the risk is just as real that the buying power of your paper money will evaporate in days or weeks.

The smarter thing is to have the wealth you want to bring into the new system which will replace the crashed one, stored in gold. And have some cash,, for lesser crises,, for minor purchases. But the fact remains,,, in a true crash,,, you should not need to be out making purchases. Thats what your prep work is for.


28 posted on 04/17/2012 8:16:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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To: CodeToad

Sadly I know well exactly what money market is and ain’t . Great if you have it, sorry if you don’t . The key difference is liquidity. Money markets are held away which can be problematic.

PS My cash is not interested in your gold unless their Winchester 32 specials.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 8:19:34 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Broker

Have you been drinking tonight?

I have and your posts still don’t make any sense.

Please inform.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 8:23:33 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Broker

Why would electronic cash stop? The Fed just writes another billion in their ledger, buy Treasury bonds, and the virtual currency keeps flowing. Existing cash devalues, of course, but so long as money is injected into the system the cards keep swiping.


31 posted on 04/17/2012 8:24:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Broker

A non-panic example of what i would warn you from,, it the Euro. Say you had a shoebox full of francs, marks and lira before the Euro came in. You had a period of time to switch to the new,, after that, they old currencies became worthless.
If there was a deep collapse,, they could say the dollar is over, bring them in for the new currency. (on their post crash terms)

But if a European had a small hoard of gold from 1990,,, it would be just as valuable if they held it right through the change to the new Euro currency. Thats my point,,

That was a slow deliberate switch,,,, not an emergency measure during a crisis. And as for collecting up gold. As long as India and China exist,, in a post crash world, the gold will be be solid. Nothing but a moron turns it in. NOt after the 1930s,,, if you would have kept it then, and then exported it, cashed into a foreign currency,, and then changed that back into dollars, you would have nearly doubled your money.
And the world is FAR more mobile than it was back then.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 8:29:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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To: DesertRhino

Very reasoned approach. The organic problem is hardest to plan for. Strategic and tactical plans include all the vehicles for survival. My lesson or knowledge for this great forum remains that we all face truly tragic economic problems.


33 posted on 04/17/2012 8:30:13 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Sober as a judge amigo. Get your red solo cup loaded up again and go watch Animal House for me


34 posted on 04/17/2012 8:34:25 PM PDT by Broker (Walk their Ghettos at your peril.)
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To: Mr. K

Except the government *can’t* physically print more money than it is right now, nor can it print in higher denominations than it does now. To explain:

The US Bureau of Engraving and Printing prints all US currency. It has only two centers, one in Forth Worth and the other in D.C. Running 24/7, they can only print enough money to support 5% of US daily retail.

Most of the money they print is $1 bills, and *proportionately* fewer $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 bills. Most $100 bills are shipped overseas for those who must have physical US currency.

So they cannot print any faster. It would take several billion dollars and two years to open even one more high security printing office. Nor can they print higher denomination bills, for the simple reason that nobody could make change for them. There just aren’t enough $100 bills to do so.

What the OP is afraid of is a “currency split”, in which all forms of “virtual money”, electronic money, suddenly experiences hyperinflation, and because it is *not* legal tender, businesses do not have to accept it. Thus everyone demands physical currency that is in tremendous shortage.

Within a day, electronic money could become worthless, and paper money and coins would, after instantly deflating 20 times their face value, (a nickel worth a dollar), it would continue to deflate, becoming extremely valuable.

A similar situation was seen during the hyperinflation of Weimar Germany. Anyone who could get US dollars could live like a king, because dollars kept appreciating in value, compared to the increasingly worthless Papiermark.


35 posted on 04/17/2012 8:35:11 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Broker

If SHTF, you will receive a chip in your hand or forehead that will grant you access to food and supplies. When you get rounded up or placed into govt safety facilities.


36 posted on 04/17/2012 8:36:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Broker

Is that Canadian or Mexican cash?


37 posted on 04/17/2012 8:37:27 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: DesertRhino

If I had next weeks Wall Street Journal, then I would be able to make all my dreams come true. IF is such a useful preposition for genius. However things just seem to go their own way.


38 posted on 04/17/2012 8:39:38 PM PDT by Broker (Lights out!)
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To: Broker

had me going there until he said gold wouldn’t work. Every last respectable store will have a gold exchange counter when tshtf. Every one will accept GAE’s without question.


39 posted on 04/17/2012 8:49:41 PM PDT by Sundog (When Hollywood defines reality there is none.)
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To: Broker

Sorry, mine is in 100s, 50s, 20s...and silver dollars dimes and quarters...and 9mmLuger, 22rimfire, and 223Remington...and rice, dry beans, pasta, and can goods. I’m expecting a silver dime to be worth the equivalent of at least 5 bucks when it happens, and possibly as much as 20 bucks. I have no idea what the food and ammo might end up being worth.


40 posted on 04/17/2012 8:51:48 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Broker

Zimbabwe. Not coins, but flecks of placer gold. Their $100,000,000,000 Zim notes only sell overseas as a curiosity, but they won’t buy bread at home. A gram of gold will.


41 posted on 04/17/2012 9:04:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

mark


42 posted on 04/17/2012 9:38:47 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Broker

“You gold coin for loaf of bread?”

I’ll tell you one thing, when the shtf, if you don’t look and speak like the locals you’re toast in the first days.


43 posted on 04/17/2012 10:00:47 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: nonsporting
22lr, 9mm, 40SW, 45ACP, 38sp, 223Rem, 308Win, 7.62x39 -- the new currency.
EXACTLY! I am investing like crazy!
44 posted on 04/17/2012 10:22:53 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Broker
Recommend your stash be in $20s, $10s, $5s and $1s.

I never thought I'd say this, because I recall when 70 cents of ours would buy one of their dollars, but the Canadians haven't been keeping their presses going in overdrive. Their ccurrency is resource backed and they'll be selling their stuff to the Pacific Rim and India before it's over.

The US currency (well, Federal Reserve Note) won't likely be worth much. Silver coins, copper coins, Canadian cash, gold coin for large amounts, and items of barter will likely be the new currency, with large transactions in bullion which will have value anywhere in the world.

45 posted on 04/17/2012 10:35:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: DesertRhino
if you would have kept it then, and then exported it, cashed into a foreign currency,, and then changed that back into dollars, you would have nearly doubled your money.

Nope. You would have retained your wealth. Gold went from $20/oz to 35/oz by Government decree. You would have had more dollars, but they were worth less. The people who got hurt turned the gold in at the old rate and were left holding cash worth 57% of what it had been worth (gold standard) just a few months/days/hours prior to that, devalued by edict.

You don't buy gold to get rich (unless you buy rare coins), but to preserve your wealth.

46 posted on 04/17/2012 10:44:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: wjcsux

Broker you were on the right track until you limited your precious metal to Gold. You are half right, from the time of the Early Greeks and Romans, there has only been two real money. Gold and Silver. All of this quasi paper money is worth nothing really.As soon as people realize they have a wallet full of nothing, Gold and Silver will really take off. Read on the World News, they expect Silver to be between $200 and $ 300 per ounce by 2013


47 posted on 04/17/2012 10:48:43 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: Broker

PLEASE....people.

The OP is talking about a certain level of meltdown, not total anarchy.

Your overall strategy should include allowances for several levels of societal/fiscal break down.

I like to conceive of this in terms of the DefCon stratification used by the Defense Department in the case of nuclear war.

Personally with the destruction already wrought by the RaceMarxist and an overall incompetent, collectivist Washington DC, I believe we are already at DefCon 4.


48 posted on 04/17/2012 10:50:55 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Broker

How about a silver dime for a loaf of bread? Or a morgan dollar for a tank of gas?

Or just hand over a wheelbarrow full of of paper money, if anyone wants it?

junk silver- the poor man’s bullion


49 posted on 04/18/2012 3:06:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Broker
Who would have ever imagined comparing our economy to Zimbabwe?

Me. Been doing it for about 4 years ...

50 posted on 04/18/2012 3:22:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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