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Why They Won’t Be Able to Blame the Tea Party When We Lose
C4P ^ | 4/20/2012 | Steve Flesher

Posted on 04/20/2012 4:33:48 PM PDT by ak267

As a longtime voting “Republican,” I am going the way of the first dude. Keeping it “commonsense” and ignoring party affiliation in choosing which candidates best serve my interests and values the most.

It goes without saying that Barack Obama is the worst president in history. We know that. But what most of us also know is the environment in Washington which has plagued and threatened the health of our Republic for decades. They include affiliations to political interests, corporate interests, and the returning of favors to fat-cat campaign donors.

It was this environment along with the media’s power to manipulate facts accompanied by a few sissies in the Republican Party that led to Obama’s election to begin with.

It’s because of money and these same circumstances that we are faced once again with settling for one chosen candidate. If we are forced in choosing between two candidates we don’t like in a general election, of course they know we’re going to vote for the less dangerous of the two. Yet, it doesn’t mean – nor does it guarantee – that the chosen candidate has the average voter’s best interest at heart over perhaps that of the fillers of their campaign coffers.

Where I have been stuck is mostly derived from the warnings of the Republican elite. You know them: Why not unite and get behind this candidate? Do you want four more years of Obama? Or my personal favorite: Well, of course he’s not my first choice, but c’mon…our country surely cannot withstand four more years of Obama!

So, we have our marching orders: don’t ask questions, don’t you dare challenge the process, and don’t cause us to lose to Obama in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservatives4palin.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: gop; palin; romney

1 posted on 04/20/2012 4:33:51 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267

The Tea Party should be a 3rd party, forget the commies and rinos.


2 posted on 04/20/2012 4:38:41 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: ak267
Where I have been stuck is mostly derived from the warnings of the Republican elite. You know them: Why not unite and get behind this candidate? Do you want four more years of Obama? Or my personal favorite: Well, of course he’s not my first choice, but c’mon…our country surely cannot withstand four more years of Obama!

The facade of Romney supporters here on FreeRepublic is ripped off!
3 posted on 04/20/2012 4:39:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ak267

There is no reason for anyone in California to vote for Mittens. He won’t carry the state, anyway, so we might as well either leave the top spot blank (undervote) or write in Sarah.


4 posted on 04/20/2012 4:45:23 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: ak267

I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame you...


5 posted on 04/20/2012 4:47:18 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1186 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: ak267

I won’t sell out my principles for fear or spite. Mittens can KMA. If Mitt gets the nod, I’m writing in Palin. The pubs have a lesson or two to learn - the hard way is good by me.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 4:47:28 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: biggredd1
The Tea Party should be a 3rd party, forget the commies and rinos.

OK,fair enough.So what we'll have then is 1992..over,and over,and over,and over,and over,and over again:

Rat---------->43% of the popular vote-->400 Electoral Votes

Republican->37% of the popular vote-->138 Electoral votes

Tea Party--->20% of the popular vote-->000 Electoral Votes

7 posted on 04/20/2012 4:51:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: APatientMan
I won’t sell out my principles for fear or spite. Mittens can KMA. If Mitt gets the nod, I’m writing in Palin...

Just got a note from the White House...they say that if you present yourself at the main gate,you'll be escorted to the Presidential Family Quarters where Michelle Obama will give you a big,wet French kiss.

And then Osama Obama will do the same.

8 posted on 04/20/2012 4:56:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: ak267
I have a few insights as to why we can unite. I recently went to a Ron Paul meeting (this week) in Fayetteville NC and was in contact with a Tea Party in GA which is also a Ron Paul support group... These Ron Paul supporters and out-of-their-ever-loven-minds so to speak as they are full of conspiracies, hate all the other candidates and are almost Democrats when it comes to social issues.... If Republicans and Independents, along with America loving Democrats do not or will not do what is best for the Country in spite of the sorry state of both the GOP and DNC, then we deserve what our own “self-interests” present us after the November vote count.
9 posted on 04/20/2012 4:57:52 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ak267
No one likes the two-party system.

But it's what we have. We do not have a parliamentary system with 4 or 6 parties ... one of which might be just your cup of tea ... to coalesce and break up and usher in Prime Ministers and usher them out with the " No confidence" vote. We do not have proportional representation. In Europe, if a political party gets 5% opf the vote, they just might get a member of parliament ...selected by the party!

We have "winner take all." If you "vote for the best candidate regardless of party" two things can happen: he'll win and so will his party or non-party, appointing a whole bunch of people you might not really like to those positions over you that really run your life ... which elected officials do not do. Or that candidate will lose. But not before taking away a vote that would have put the better man in (See GHWB's tragic screw-up in the election of '92, completely at the hands of Ross Perot, who is the man who really selected Bill Clinton.)

You have recognized that the Republican Party is dieing. It ain't pretty. It smells bad. What we have to figure out is how we can transition to a constitutional party without handing the keys to the kingdom to the Democrats for the next quarter-century .... by which time it is eminently possible there won't be a kingdom.

10 posted on 04/20/2012 5:01:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: ak267
My marching orders are from the Constitution. Mitt and Obama both are enemies of our Constitution. Neither man will get my vote.

I am planning to write in Sarah and vote Conservative down the ticket.

P.S. Even if Sarah endorses Mitt, it will not change my mind. My tagline states my position.

11 posted on 04/20/2012 5:03:02 PM PDT by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

I plan to write in Sarah.


12 posted on 04/20/2012 5:08:00 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

LOL. Oh, No! Let me guess - I have cooties, too?

I’m sure our Founders would be proud of your fortitude.

Why not just register Democrat? You’ve already admitted you’re willing to take whatever scraps they throw you. 0bummer is already getting a big wet kiss - Get off your knees and try his lips for once.


13 posted on 04/20/2012 5:12:10 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan
I am planning to write in Sarah and vote Conservative down the ticket.

Write in Obama same thing.

14 posted on 04/20/2012 5:18:02 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: scooby321

Writing in Palin tells the libs and the pubs that the game is coming to an end. They’ve proven they are interested in nothing but the same old same old. I’m done with it.

I’ll give them a shot across the bow - they can take it serious, or not. I’m good to go, either way.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: ak267

The old cliches and scare tactics of the whigs isn’t working on me this time....


16 posted on 04/20/2012 5:32:54 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You’ve survived a long time. Your zot is coming Yank.


17 posted on 04/20/2012 5:34:18 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: scooby321

I plan to vote for Virgil Goode if he is the Constitution Party Candidate.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 5:36:27 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The old cliches and scare tactics of the whigs isn’t working on me this time....

Good for you! You have seen the light!

19 posted on 04/20/2012 5:37:54 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: ak267

SCR@W THAT!

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE

PLEASE STOP THE DEFEATIST CR@P!

Thank you.
20 posted on 04/20/2012 5:43:26 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Don't eat dogs)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; ak267
WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE

If 'we' tie our wagon to Romney, I predict 'we' will lose - and just as big of a loss as McCain't.

21 posted on 04/20/2012 6:10:32 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: central_va
You’ve survived a long time. Your zot is coming Yank.

I'm sure you're right.But at some point after I've been zotted,round about mid-November of this year,folks like you are gonna be talking about stocking up on food,the availability of ammo,emigrating to New Zealand...when all you had to do was vote for the nominee (whoever it is) and *then* work to steer him/her in the right direction if necessary.

And just out of curiosity,is being a "Yank" enough reason,all by itself,to be zotted? And I'm wondering why you didn't say "Commie" instead of "Yank".

It's spelled C-O-M-M-I-E if that's the reason you didn't.

22 posted on 04/20/2012 6:25:49 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: ak267

The Tea Party should coalesce within itself into a new party or one that already exists.

Constitution Party, anyone?


23 posted on 04/20/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

If it was up to me I would zot you just for being a mAsshole.


24 posted on 04/20/2012 6:29:19 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
I plan to vote for Virgil Goode if he is the Constitution Party Candidate.

As am I! Are you located in VA-5, his old district?

25 posted on 04/20/2012 6:30:33 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: ScottinVA

No the 7th district, Can’tors district.


26 posted on 04/20/2012 6:34:38 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The old cliches and scare tactics of the whigs isn’t working on me this time....

The Republican candidates since Reagan left have been sliding leftward with each passing election. I voted for Bush I and II, Dole and McCain. Been there and done it, and have watched the GOP fold in the face of democrat challenges damned near every single time. The topper was the cravenly pathetic excuse for "representation" during the 2010 lame-duck session. Instead of standing tough and telling the dark side "we will not budge because America stands with us," the GOP stepped aside and handed the DADT repeal and New Start to Obama on a silver platter. The submissive, lap-dog - like response to the Kagan and Sotomayor nominations didn't help either.

And now...this... the inevitable nomination of the worst possible candidate on the field.

Good show, GOP.

27 posted on 04/20/2012 6:38:52 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: ak267

28 posted on 04/20/2012 6:40:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ScottinVA

The GOP is finished if in a miracle Milquetoast Milt wins, the Conservatives will feel the immediate danger has passed and move on to another party(s). But if Obama wins, the field is wide open for ‘16 and the Conservatives may stay for one more round.


29 posted on 04/20/2012 6:44:45 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
What we have to figure out is how we can transition to a constitutional party without handing the keys to the kingdom to the Democrats for the next quarter-century .... by which time it is eminently possible there won't be a kingdom.

I'm thinking four more years of Obama would be the 'tipping point'. I'm not going to throw away my vote and let that happen. I may not like Romney, but I detest the Democrat Party.

30 posted on 04/20/2012 7:16:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: central_va

31 posted on 04/20/2012 7:25:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: SuziQ

I’m thinking that if Romney and the Establishment blow a winnable election, there will be a bifurcation on the Right, probably led by Palin and other conservatives.

They will either purge the GOP of the squishtards or start a new Conservative Party as Harper did in Canada.

It’s worth noting that while Romney had a great week, Obama has a vast money advantage.

Best,

Chris


32 posted on 04/21/2012 6:20:56 AM PDT by section9
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To: Gay State Conservative
Just got a note from the White House...they say that if you present yourself at the main gate,you'll be escorted to the Presidential Family Quarters where Michelle Obama will give you a big,wet French kiss.

Sorry, but the Obamas instead will French kiss the GOP-E members who thought Romney was a good choice in the first place. He has a 34 percent approval rating. Thirty. Four. Percent.

35 posted on 04/21/2012 8:27:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: APatientMan

>>...The pubs have a lesson or two to learn - the hard way is good by me...<<

Romney is where he is because there are more “registered-repuke-licans” moderates who eagerly supported him and voted for him, than there are tea-party conservatives who voted against him.

Vote however lets you sleep at night. But if you are voting to “teach them pubs a lesson”, I’m pretty sure you are going to be just as disappointed and pissed-off for the entire four years following the election as you are right now, because the gop don’t care how you, I or the whole tea-party community votes. I seriously doubt they will even take notice. They have all those moderate “pubs” (who outnumber us) to keep sending them money and voting like they are told to vote. We need to put the “moderates” in the minority somehow. I have no idea how to do it either.


36 posted on 04/21/2012 12:54:47 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: biggredd1
The Tea Party should be a 3rd party, forget the commies and rinos.

That is my desire. I believe that if Sarah Palin were to run on a tea party ticket that we could actually win this election in a three-way race.

Even if we lost, we would still be ahead of the game. We've got to start somewhere. The Republican party is DEAD to many of us.

37 posted on 04/21/2012 1:22:58 PM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: Diogenesis

38 posted on 04/21/2012 9:36:48 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Diogenesis

39 posted on 04/21/2012 9:37:20 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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