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WOMAN OF MY DREAMS?

Posted on 04/21/2012 12:42:50 AM PDT by mamelukesabre

I am a middle aged single guy with no ex wives and no kids. I've never been married and never knocked up no one. For the last 12 years I've been trying hard to find that perfect someone. You may remember me having threads on this very same topic. I recently had a couple of relationships with young asian girls and posted about it...only to have those threads yanked by the FR mods.

The asian girlfriend I broke up with and posted about is still around but we don't get along that well anymore. I found another asian girl younger than her but she is no longer in the picture. She decided I was too old. She probably had a point since she was only 26. Please see my previous threads about my physical fitness. I have been working my ass off to look 15 years younger than my age and I think I have pulled it off except for baldness.

Tonight I met a new girl and I am already in love. There is just one problem. She is a 20 year old law student from Estonia. She is short and chubby and wears very thick glasses. She is very old for her age if you know what I mean. I spent the evening dancing with and drinking with her friends.

We've already made arrangements for the future. I know I am a complete idiot. I can't help it. I will be working out extra hard now and suffering more from tendonitis than I ever have in my life.

I actually wish I really was making this up.

Flame away


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To: central_va
"has made guys go for the gusto more often and earlier due to pent up sex release"

No flame coming.

In regards to your "pent up sex release", isn't that what your right hand is for? ;)

Prostitution is an ugly business. Most of these gals were sexually abused and think sex is love. Unfortunately, it seems they never put 2+2 together. They just go on abusing themselves.

I find it sad.

151 posted on 04/21/2012 8:52:57 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
In the 1890's a gentleman could go to a "gentlemen's club", have safe ,clean sex a drink and it was all socially tolerated for the most part. It wasn't deemed dirty and the women were no crack whores. Especially for a single man, going to a high priced gentlemen's club wasn't looked down on at all. Thus the dating could take a more non-sexual course with the "pressure" off.

PS: Rosey Palmer gets old after awhile.....

152 posted on 04/21/2012 8:59:46 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NoGrayZone
If I am meant to find the one, He will guide me. Until then, I will remain the happy gal (for the most part) because I no longer live with the pressures or manipulation of men trying to bed me.

If they couldn’t “have me” within 2-3 dates, I was dumped. Never mind all the slapping and “get off of me” I endured while dating. They seemed to have grown a few extra arms at the end of our date! All this free sex and everyone doing everyone has put such a crimp on a once innocent dating ritual.

Instead of dating with strangers why not go out and do activities you enjoy and meet men there? Become friends first. I have dated women in the past but all three long term GF's I have ever had, we met through same hobbies or other similar interest and we were always friends at first.

A guy I know volunteers at a local state park a few Saturday's each month. Met a woman there doing the same thing, got to know her after a while working together and now they are together.

153 posted on 04/21/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: central_va
Fornication is against the rule of God. It took me quite some time and soul searching to finally realize that.

"and it was all socially tolerated for the most part."

And look at where "socially tolerated" has taken our once beautiful country.

154 posted on 04/21/2012 9:07:42 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Sea Parrot

:). Yet clearly you did a million thing right to capture that girl’s heart that pursued you. :). Many blessings and much continued joy to you and your beloved of over 51 years. I am sure however that SHE could give us ladies all sorts of courting advice given her success!


155 posted on 04/21/2012 9:11:23 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: NoGrayZone
Fornication is against the rule of God. It took me quite some time and soul searching to finally realize that.

So if you are happy with the trade off then all is good. If you feel you are missing something I hope you get out there and get back in the game.

156 posted on 04/21/2012 9:12:36 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: trailhkr1

Well, I don’t date anymore. Prior to, I have been set up by friends/family. I figured it would be safe since they know the guy.

I was wrong. As of becoming friends first, men in this generation do not want to take the time to do so.

Funny story. I went out to lunch yesterday, BY MYSELF, which I have never done before. I met a man sitting next to me and we just started chatting.

Long story short, after talking to this man (whom I would never think of as my type, my fault), I found him to have values closely related to mine.

He asked for my number so we could go out for lunch/dinner and before I agreed to do so I told him I am available, but celibate. Told him I have no problem to start a friendship; however, he knew exactly where I stood.

I even told him if he was looking for sex, I was not his girl. He laughed, I laughed....and he asked for my number anyway.

Now it could be the “chase” that may excite him, however, I am absolutely concrete in my beliefs.

The reason I decided to exchange numbers with him? He wasn’t trying to pick me up. We just happened to sit next to each other and started yapping.

Any stranger I speak with now a days, I let them know upfront, of course when appropriate, who I am and where I stand.

No way IN HELL would I EVER date a lib. Most men and women, when they first meet talk about themselves.

I go right into my politics. I need to know who you are and where you stand. VERY off putting to a lot of people, but guess what....I don’t give a flyin you know what.


157 posted on 04/21/2012 9:25:54 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: mamelukesabre

You seem to be wishing to acquire feminine candy. Have fun. These young girls should know the score. Would I want my daughter dating you? Hell no. But there are lots of girls with authority or daddy complexes.

This is not a life partner love situation. This is you wanting some sort of fantasy toy. You are seeking subservience. With that said, it’s your life so have fun. Don’t make any children.


158 posted on 04/21/2012 9:30:31 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PapaBear3625
Yes. true. Yet men in this day and age rarely 'use' these women for reproductive purposes. They use them as car ornamentation and to bolster their fragile egos and to humor them as the men admire the woman's youthful self. Just as the women use them for her own purposes.

I was however quoting a study. Not my own opinion. Who wouldn't want the prettiest parcel on the block?

At some point men want an excellent combo of what they want that best serves them not what he world tells them to want. I don't have to tell you that though as you are a man. :).

159 posted on 04/21/2012 9:38:38 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: central_va

That’s the funny thing about it. I don’t feel like I am missing out on something.

I actually feel relief! That 10,000 pound monkey I carried on my back for so long is gone.

All I feel is FREEDOM!


160 posted on 04/21/2012 9:39:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

lol. just the opposite side of the country in California. I suspect they have lots of my type in your area as well. haha.


161 posted on 04/21/2012 9:42:18 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: NoGrayZone

Just don’t switch and start playing for the other team.


162 posted on 04/21/2012 9:47:13 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Ewwwwwwwww, you just made me throw up a little in my mouth!


163 posted on 04/21/2012 9:49:40 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Best wishes and congradulations! Yeah, I know and understand, I’m in the same shoes as you.


164 posted on 04/21/2012 10:28:57 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

165 posted on 04/21/2012 10:35:21 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Salamander
Or a combat 'nam vet who lets you know immediately upon introduction that: *I'm f'ed up ...I'll f you first...coz I'm f'ed up* *You don't meet Tony...you experience him.* *What greasy ponytail...what loud bike. Huh?*;)


166 posted on 04/21/2012 10:37:25 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: GOP Poet

I see I touched a nerve.

You’re the one that decided to post about your history and make it out to be no big deal you knew you were in a shallow relationship using another person.

Many people only realize AFTER the relationship is over that it was superficial compared to the one they wind up marrying. You went into it knowing the only reason you were in it was because he was a good looking sugar daddy for you.


167 posted on 04/21/2012 10:37:38 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: JoeProBono

I recognize that scene. Loretta Young in “Cause for Alarm”, made in 1951.


168 posted on 04/21/2012 10:50:54 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Secret Agent Man

actually no. i went into the relationship because he was a hot, dark man and I couldn’t resist. I am sure you are a saint and never superficial and any of your dating choices though. lol. Mother Teresa the man.


169 posted on 04/21/2012 10:52:42 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Nifster; Vendome

I can’t make babies with a woman my own age. They are too old for pregnancy. Obviously since I have never been married and have never had kids, that is something pretty high up on my list...hence my effort to be acceptable to younger women. The two of you sound like a couple of bitter old dried up uteruses that despise fertile women. I don’t have time to respond to every comment since this thread turned quite popular, but you two really take the cake and demanded a response So feel honored.


170 posted on 04/21/2012 12:47:17 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (If I had a dog, it would look like the dog 0bama ate)
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To: mamelukesabre; Nifster

Are that self ibued with vanity that you feel you can project your sadness and anger about how life has treated you?

You won’t find anyone here telling you how to live your life are spouting off their moral code for how you think they ought to live.

I frequently don’t get along with mamalukesabre but if he wants to date 20 year olds who are we to say why he shouldn’t?

In regards to being “Happily Married” you got me there and a choice a made long ago.

I’m 48, good looking and there are Freepers who know me and agree and I’m pretty dang’d successful.

Girls like me and I like them but we ain’t sharing the same address until someone makes me so happy I can’t bear it and I ask them.

Good for Mameluke and I support his reason. Hell, if I wanted children I would do the same thing.

But, I think I will be happy with whomever, regardless of age so long as we are in the mutual admiration society.

Now, go pound sand, nOOb and let others live as they wish.


171 posted on 04/21/2012 12:55:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mamelukesabre

Dork. You know I’m a man don’t you and the commment was directed at the nOOb.

I support what you are trying to accomplish and I don’t have some age restriction hangup.

If you and some girl want have babies have at it, more power to you and let the other dried up poster, who is wistfully living in the past and get over no longer having the ability to make copies of herself deal with it.

If you find a girl, she’s hot and has a sister in San Francisco Bay Area, let me know.


172 posted on 04/21/2012 1:03:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: JoeProBono

Sexy and I like them lips.


173 posted on 04/21/2012 1:05:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Salamander

What a wonderful story. You are both lucky.


174 posted on 04/21/2012 1:08:02 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Nifster

No, he’s not, but he’s REALLY cute. And nice.


175 posted on 04/21/2012 1:08:07 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Every time a liberal gets pissed off an angel gets their wings.)
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To: trailhkr1

I couldn’t do that. My deep love for my children would outweigh the problems.


176 posted on 04/21/2012 1:11:55 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Every time a liberal gets pissed off an angel gets their wings.)
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To: trailhkr1

My grown sons do things that I don’t agree with, but I love them so damn much it hurts. I would never cut them off because of this. I’m sorry for your parents, they’re pitiable.


177 posted on 04/21/2012 1:17:33 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Every time a liberal gets pissed off an angel gets their wings.)
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To: GOP Poet

I never dated a woman who’s looks far outstripped her personality. I have been attracted to certain women physically but never dated them because either they were into someone else or I knew the personality mix was wrong.

Not a saint, I just never did any mutual-use relationships. My dating years were also before friends-with-benefits was considered an accepted possibility.


178 posted on 04/21/2012 1:17:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Vendome

My mistake. I have never been very good with names in the real world and I guess that failing translates over to print as well. Its very difficult for me to hold grudges against people here on FR because I can’t remember which screen name goes with which grudge.


179 posted on 04/21/2012 1:37:30 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve never had a “friends with benefits” relationship but I might be open to it if it was exclusive. That actually sounds like a pretty good marriage to me. All the good stuff without any of the misery. If I could find a woman that would do an “exclusive friends with benefits plus a marriage certificate” relationship I would be on that like a secret service agent.


180 posted on 04/21/2012 1:45:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
The nature of the whole FWB thing precludes an overt expectation of exclusivity. The practical reality may end up being that it's exclusive, primarily due to concerns over sexually transmitted disease, but actually expecting it starts taking on the character of ownership and controlling that FWB is intended to avoid, the sort of thing that has people, mostly men, looking for a more easygoing, less harangue filled variety of regular female companionship, one that is actually friendly and enjoyable with occasional physical affection.

It's a pity that society has devolved to such a point, but that's where it is for a growing segment of society. Aggressive feminism poisons male-female relations, making it a constant power struggle. Remove the sense of ownership and entitlement, and the power struggle recedes.

181 posted on 04/21/2012 2:03:28 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

My understanding is that women rebel against the “exclusivity” expectations simply because it is typically assumed to only apply to women(or at least more strenuously towards women) and also that they naturally prefer exclusivity if not for this specific contention.

Therefore, I believe I have a marketable concept with my idea of a “FWB+exclusivity+marriage cert.”. My concept implies that the exclusivity works both-ways or no-ways.

Now, lets examine the “exclusivity” concept. Certain kinds of women are uncomfortable with the morality concepts that demand exclusivity. They do so because they feel these antiquated codes of morality were designed by men to help men subjugate women. If we separate out the concept of exclusivity from morality, then we stop antagonizing these kinds of women. Assuming these women have innate inbred desires of exclusivity hardwired into their brains(which I think is the case) I think we can convince them to go with their natural urges simply by removing the stigma(as perceived by them) from it...which is traditional biblical morality.


182 posted on 04/21/2012 2:23:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Secret Agent Man

who’s == whose


183 posted on 04/21/2012 2:32:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Vendome

I am not stopping anyone from doing what they want. I did not ask people their opinion. If you don’t want people’s opinion then don’t ask for it


184 posted on 04/21/2012 2:34:28 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: mamelukesabre

Yeah, I could not see that working for me. You have sex with someone you explicitly do not fall in love with/have a relationship with. It’s really a myth both sides are trying to believe. There is no such thing as sex without consequences. If they aren’t physical they are emotional and/or spiritual.


185 posted on 04/21/2012 2:36:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mamelukesabre

I’m fine with it. You’re a Freeper, I’m a Freeper, three cheers for Freepers.

We are on the same side anyway, most of the time. LOL

So you are dating a 20 year old. What they hell interest is it of anyone?

If you are were a famous personality and wealthy they would secretly admire you.

Woody Allen comes to mind and most people I know seem to be okay with it and feel he has found “true love”. What do I know?

I’m not fine with nOOb moralists who probably are dealing with a lot of leftover and carry over pain and seek to diminish or marginalize others with their tropes.

They have issues and I won’t subscribe to them.


186 posted on 04/21/2012 2:37:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well said.


187 posted on 04/21/2012 2:38:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Nifster; mamelukesabre

I somehow got included on this thread but, feel free to cancel my subscription to any more of your issues.


188 posted on 04/21/2012 2:40:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: baddog 219
So he took a tour to China. Found a factory girl, 28 Years old, beautiful, hard working, and wanted a better life than working 18 hours a day 7 days a week only to live in a room with 6 other factory workers. They made an agreement, She came to the U.S. and they have been together for 5 years.... He is so freakin’ happy it makes me sick. She treats him like a God. He has a beautiful young lady as a companion and she has her Knight in shining armor. The only thing is she wants to have his baby.... He says he's to old to start another family.

He did it all right. He didn't marry her. He didn't let her have a child by him. If she leaves him he owes her nothing, and she would be in the US without much in the way of skills that would maintain her at the standard of living that he offers her. She has lots of incentive to stay and make him happy.

189 posted on 04/21/2012 2:40:56 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: mamelukesabre

Good luck with that, what you’re wanting is a conflict in terms, FWB made exclusive with a contract.

In order for this to have a prayer, you’ll want a woman who thinks and to a certain extent acts like a man, while still being attracted to men, and also one with a strong moral underpinning while being irreligious.

Don’t want much, do you, lol? Sounds like an Ayn Rand protagonist, but Ayn Rand was no joy to be around in real life; she treated her husband very poorly, cuckholded him right to his face, humiliated him routinely.


190 posted on 04/21/2012 2:41:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: mamelukesabre

Sysiphus....


191 posted on 04/21/2012 2:41:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: beandog

I can tell you from experience, it ain’t what it is cracked up to be


192 posted on 04/21/2012 2:51:14 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Catholics do family and no divorce pretty well. Well, certain of them, certainly not Kennedy, Pelosi or Sebilious


193 posted on 04/21/2012 2:55:09 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RegulatorCountry

cuckholded him right to his face
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That’s not exclusivity, unless I misunderstand.


194 posted on 04/21/2012 2:58:03 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Lancey Howard
You only go around once.

Sure, but the merry-go-round never ends...

195 posted on 04/21/2012 3:19:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Salamander
Hubby’s 18 years older than I am, just about flat broke, got a spare tire and I wouldn’t trade him for the world.

Honey, is that you? You never told me you had a Freeper account.

196 posted on 04/21/2012 3:22:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Salamander
Nobody ever saw a thundering, Sicilian biker coming...LOL

My daughter's only 14, but you're already making me worry about the future .. LOL

197 posted on 04/21/2012 3:28:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: yldstrk

I’d sure like to try it.


198 posted on 04/21/2012 3:28:58 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Daffynition

Nice picture!


199 posted on 04/21/2012 3:35:56 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Secret Agent Man

Define use. So a person enjoys another’s company and laughs a lot in their presence. So the person who enjoy is basking in the feelings of enjoyment. The same person feels great laughing while in the presence of the other. So are you telling me that these positive feelings are not the impetus for reaching out the other for positive feelings in the future? We all use each other in different ways. The difference between you and I is that I am more insightful, obviously intelligent, and honest. :)


200 posted on 04/21/2012 3:53:58 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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