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Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
AP ^ | 4/20/2012 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 04/21/2012 2:24:07 AM PDT by iowamark

For computer users, a few mouse clicks could mean the difference between staying online and losing Internet connections this summer.

Unknown to most of them, their problem began when international hackers ran an online advertising scam to take control of infected computers around the world. In a highly unusual response, the FBI set up a safety net months ago using government computers to prevent Internet disruptions for those infected users. But that system is to be shut down.

The FBI is encouraging users to visit a website run by its security partner, http://www.dcwg.org , that will inform them whether they're infected and explain how to fix the problem. After July 9, infected users won't be able to connect to the Internet.

Most victims don't even know their computers have been infected, although the malicious software probably has slowed their web surfing and disabled their antivirus software, making their machines more vulnerable to other problems.

Last November, the FBI and other authorities were preparing to take down a hacker ring that had been running an Internet ad scam on a massive network of infected computers.

"We started to realize that we might have a little bit of a problem on our hands because ... if we just pulled the plug on their criminal infrastructure and threw everybody in jail, the victims of this were going to be without Internet service," said Tom Grasso, an FBI supervisory special agent. "The average user would open up Internet Explorer and get 'page not found' and think the Internet is broken."

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Reference
KEYWORDS: dnschanger; fbi; internetsecurity; internetthreat; internetthreatjuly; internetvirus
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To check and clean computers: http://www.dcwg.org
1 posted on 04/21/2012 2:24:11 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Not sure I want the gubmint “cleaning” my computer.


2 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:16 AM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: iowamark
Color me very cautious.

If Microsoft or McAfee warns me about something, I do what they say.

If a news wire service warns me.....

Hmmmm.

3 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:16 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Centaur

Ditto.

I’d rather hazard the hackers, thanks.


4 posted on 04/21/2012 2:43:15 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey, blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: iowamark
"The average user would open up Internet Explorer and get 'page not found' and think the Internet is broken."

Think the Internet is brok...Nice try, boys.
5 posted on 04/21/2012 2:46:31 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


6 posted on 04/21/2012 2:49:46 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

bttt


7 posted on 04/21/2012 2:50:05 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: PowderMonkey

I don’t use IE anyway.


8 posted on 04/21/2012 2:55:09 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come.)
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To: iowamark

Bump


9 posted on 04/21/2012 2:59:16 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: iowamark; lightman; SF_Redux; Questori; Quix

I have Norton 360 running 24x7, and Malwarebytes scans 5x/week, so I’m not letting the gov’t inside my machines to drop cookies/trojans/keyloggers etc to keep an eye on me, thankyouverymuch. And IE is total crap - I use Opera v11.62 on Win7 Pro w/SP3 - so that’s not an option, either.

Anyone who lets the gov’t *scanner* inside, is asking for problems.


10 posted on 04/21/2012 3:05:42 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: iowamark
Iowamark, Your Joking, Aren't you?

Which would you entrust your life? To the Government Weather service or a private one you know and trust?

Private weather services have beaten the Government ones for decades; the statistics prove it.

And when government gets things wrong, they get it REALLY REALLY WRONG.

IE: Some Bureaucrat DREAMS up a Test and/or a Solution to a Internet/Computer Virus and DOESN'T TEST IT OUT, DOESN'T THINK OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TEST and/or SOLUTION (Think Liberal/Progressive or RINO) and/or doesn't Think of a means to BACK IT OUT if it MESSES UP.

With Luck, their solution works. Usually, as with software not well thought out; IT JUST INCREASES PROBLEMS and MAKES MORE FOR THE FUTURE.

And worse than this, PEOPLE START DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNMENT AND NOT THINKING FOR THEMSELVES. So when the GOVERNMENT MISSES a Big Virus who do you blame and how quickly will it be solved - THINK SSLLLOOOOWWWWW!

DOH!

11 posted on 04/21/2012 3:08:06 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: iowamark

I went to your recommended site and sniffed around.
It is suspiciously like other commercial frauds that rope you you in, tell you how infected your computer is, and then demand payment immediately to fix it.

I would rather trust my Norton 360 and my Malwarebytes.


12 posted on 04/21/2012 3:15:18 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Taxes are taken by governments from profits and pay earned by those who work.)
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To: sr4402

“I’m from the government and I’m here to help”..........uh huh, yeah right


13 posted on 04/21/2012 3:17:19 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: iowamark
The FBI is encouraging users to visit a website run by its security partner, http://www.dcwg.org


14 posted on 04/21/2012 3:27:53 AM PDT by tomkat (...shall NOT be abridged)
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To: Rapscallion

I am lucky having Frontier Communications. (phone and Internet) For free, they furnish very sophisticated virus, firewall, spam and email protection programs that work 24/7 and does a great job of it.


15 posted on 04/21/2012 3:50:30 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: iowamark

I don’t run IE. And I don’t run Windows.

Running Xubuntu 11.04

Wife runs both. So I am stuck with maintaining it.


16 posted on 04/21/2012 4:01:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yldstrk
““I’m from the government and I’m here to help”

Ah yes, Reagan's famous "nine most dangerous words in the English language.

Also this: To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a federal agency!

17 posted on 04/21/2012 4:15:33 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: iowamark

The paranoia on this thread is astounding to me.

Running Malwarbytes 5 times a week? Really?

It won’t affect you because you don’t use IE? Really?

Windows 7 professional SP3? Really?

Trust Norton? Really?

LOL.

I don’t run any anti-virus, nor to do I scan my computer on any regular basis(yearly maybe, probably less). I won’t use IE and I do use Admuncher. I don’t run executables off the internet. My networks also run off of OpenDNS and I block .br .cn .in .info .ir .kr .kz .ro .ru .sa TLDs. My computers simply won’t resolve out to 75% of the worlds malware hosts. Sure, they could use IPs in their malware scripts but most use DNS and regularly change the host IP.

I have seen infections so thick on machines that you literally couldn’t do anything but click the “pay me” button and enter a credit card yet Norton Antivirus was sitting there fat and happy like it didn’t have a care in the world.

DCWG isn’t some organization that’s trying to rip you off. Sheesh, people.


18 posted on 04/21/2012 4:17:30 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: nnn0jeh

Ping


19 posted on 04/21/2012 4:18:49 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: carriage_hill

Malwarebytes is the best, eh? It’s saved my behind many a time. Sadly, it’s mostly a threat from news sites!!!


20 posted on 04/21/2012 4:24:44 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Centaur

I don’t want Uncle Sugar in my stuff either. It’s bad enough to know they are always looking at/for us, but to willingly open my computer to them seems nuts. When you agree to let the site act on your computer, you also say “OK” to any bad stuff it has to “offer”.


21 posted on 04/21/2012 4:29:37 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: carriage_hill
"I have Norton 360 running 24x7, and Malwarebytes scans 5x/week, so I’m not letting the gov’t inside my machines to drop cookies/trojans/keyloggers etc to keep an eye on me, thankyouverymuch.

Joke is on you my friend. Google "Deep Packet Inspection".

22 posted on 04/21/2012 4:29:46 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: iowamark

If you’re running Windows 7, I’d recommend at minimum running Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0 (which is a free download with continuous updates). Security Essentials 2.0 works closely with Windows 7’s own security features and will likely eliminate this known piece of malware.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 4:30:44 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: TXDuke

Ping for fyi


24 posted on 04/21/2012 4:32:22 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: autumnraine

“...it’s mostly a threat from news sites!!!”

Malwarebytes is, or the “things” it occasionally snags?


25 posted on 04/21/2012 4:39:48 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

DPI?

“In addition to using DPI for the security of their own networks, governments in North America, Europe, and Asia use DPI for various purposes such as surveillance and censorship. Many of these programs are classified.”

That makes me feel better (;^0)

What are you using?


26 posted on 04/21/2012 4:41:34 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: RayChuang88

Okay, thanks; will check out Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0, and what else do you recommend above that level?


27 posted on 04/21/2012 4:46:46 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: RayChuang88

I don’t think Norton 360 will “let me” uninstall it, to change to Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0

IINM, once it’s “in there”, it ain’t coming out “peacefully”. I’ve been using Norton/Symmantec forever and have had no (can’t remember any) problems with intrusions. Now I’m wondering how many it’s let thru quietly to do DPIs.

Aw crap, this is a hell of a start to a weekend.


28 posted on 04/21/2012 4:53:35 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: iowamark

Getting off the grid would do some of us a lot off good!
lol


29 posted on 04/21/2012 4:56:49 AM PDT by Autonomous User ( As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.)
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To: sr4402
Private weather services have beaten the Government ones for decades; the statistics prove it.

Name one private weather satellite.

30 posted on 04/21/2012 5:03:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: iowamark

Just so you know I am not simply an opinionated female. My husand and I run an IT support business for small and medium businesses. I’ve been in IT since the early 80’s, my husband nearly as long. My husband worked his way up through the ranks of IT to become the CIO of an international company. We don’t know everything, no one does, but we do have security certifications and one thing we work very hard at is making sure our customers are as secure as they can be and still conduct business.

Fact one: In the year since Symantec released Endpoint Protection 12.1 and we installed it in all of our customer base we have not had a single infected machine. I have not wasted any of my time or my customers’ money cleaning up machines.

Fact two: There is no technical solution for bad behavior. Most infections are because users override protections. The people who do this kind of thing long ago realized that social engineering was the best way to infect a machine.


31 posted on 04/21/2012 5:06:26 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: iowamark

for anyone who thinks they might have something nasty that interferes with their anti-virus, there is also housecall.trendmicro.com/ they are reliable, trustworthy and efficient. They also bought ‘hijackthis’ which is a renowned product.


32 posted on 04/21/2012 5:11:41 AM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


33 posted on 04/21/2012 5:29:12 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: carriage_hill
I myself use Norton Internet Security 2012 (five-user license) and have three computers running it now.

It let it do the automatic Quick Scans, and I run manually a full System Scan once a week. Because NIS 2012 checks just about ALL Internet activity, it's pretty good at stopping malware attacks.

34 posted on 04/21/2012 5:29:31 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: iowamark
Jeez, you mean we'll have to go outside and experience "real life"? ; )

Actually, most of my internet activity is prior to 6AM. I wake up EARLY. It's more a service to my friends and neighbors.

35 posted on 04/21/2012 5:40:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: RayChuang88

This is what I’m running, on the r/s:

http://buy-static.norton.com/norton/ps/2up_us_en_nis360.html?om_sem_cid=hho_sem_sy:us:ggl:en:e|kw0000331560|11301902716&country=US

Same as you NIS 2012, but with more tune-up/-back-up stuff.


36 posted on 04/21/2012 5:45:34 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: iowamark

Hmmm.


37 posted on 04/21/2012 5:52:58 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: iowamark

Rogue servers:
• 85.255.112.0 through 85.255.127.255
• 67.210.0.0 through 67.210.15.255
• 93.188.160.0 through 93.188.167.255
• 77.67.83.0 through 77.67.83.255
• 213.109.64.0 through 213.109.79.255
• 64.28.176.0 through 64.28.191.255

Simple instrutions to see if you have it:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911/DNS-changer-malware.pdf


38 posted on 04/21/2012 6:06:42 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: carriage_hill

I use MSE and Spybot but never really seem to need them much because I use Firefox with the “No-Script” add-0n. But none of that will stop the Gub’ment if they wish to see what you’ve been looking at and/or download. DPI gives them the ability and since the Gub’ment is intertwined with the ISPs because of the CALEA act its just a matter of a few knob twists that a few bots can be dropped on your system if the Gub’ment wants it done. They don’t need you to click anything at all.


39 posted on 04/21/2012 6:17:20 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I guess/sounds like, there’s no way to block DPIs, is there?


40 posted on 04/21/2012 6:27:09 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: mc5cents

I miss Reagan


41 posted on 04/21/2012 6:32:47 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Malsua

You are not dumb as far as what to put on your computer. But you are not suspicious enough of the government. What do you think? I am guessing there are just about 570,000 computers whose addresses the government wants to collect. Maybe yours is one of them, eh?


42 posted on 04/21/2012 6:36:12 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RayChuang88

Microsoft anything is awful


43 posted on 04/21/2012 6:37:21 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Malsua
My networks also run off of OpenDNS and I block .br .cn .in .info .ir .kr .kz .ro .ru .sa TLDs.

That's a good list of TLDs to block. Also, many people consider ".cm" (Cameroon) another good one to block (it's particularly an apt one for typesquatting ".com" domains.)

The summary at McAfee Pinpoints the Web's Riskiest Domains also includes ".ws" as another TLD liable to be problematic.

44 posted on 04/21/2012 7:04:12 AM PDT by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Joke is on you my friend. Google "Deep Packet Inspection".

Joke is on you my friend. Google is not a friend of individual privacy.

45 posted on 04/21/2012 7:07:38 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Centaur
the feds ain't doing the cleaning.(tho my IP address is now probably in their data base)
they are pointing you to places that can help.
46 posted on 04/21/2012 8:06:27 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: arasina

Just so.

I would love to see an alternate euphemism for web search grow in popularity. I call them gargoyle.com


47 posted on 04/21/2012 8:16:48 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: yldstrk
True in the past, but everyone agrees that Windows 7 is the best version of Windows since Windows 2000 Professional and have said that Security Essentials 2.0 does work quite well as a means to defend against malware attacks.

Yes, Norton Internet Security is excellent, but it's not cheap: about US$54 per year for a three-use license.

48 posted on 04/21/2012 8:51:45 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Malsua

Malsua, Than you for some sanity.


49 posted on 04/21/2012 8:56:53 AM PDT by CAconservitive
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To: Malsua

ping


50 posted on 04/21/2012 9:22:16 AM PDT by abigail2
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