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Microsoft to Yank XP in 2 Years
pc world ^ | 4/23/12 | Gregg Keizer, Computerworld

Posted on 04/23/2012 4:12:22 PM PDT by Nachum

Microsoft has kicked off what it calls a "two-year countdown" to the death of Windows XP and the Office 2003 productivity suite.

Separately, Microsoft announced that Windows Vista, the problem-plagued operating system that never really took hold among customers, exited mainstream support on April 10. In a product's extended support phase, Microsoft provides security patches to registered users but offers other fixes, including reliability and stability updates, only to organizations that have support contracts with the company.

Windows XP and Office 2003 will no longer be supported as of April 8, 2014, a company spokeswoman said in a recent blog post. On that date, Microsoft will stop shipping security updates for both products.

At that point, XP will have become Microsoft's longest-lived operating system. The company will have maintained the software for 12 years and five months -- or about two and a half years longer than it usually supports an OS. It supported the previous record-holder, Windows NT, for 11 years and five months.

Both XP and Office 2003 have been hugely successful. XP went on sale in October 2001, and Office 2003 launched in October 2003. "Windows XP and Office 2003 were great software releases, but the technology environment has shifted," said Stella Chernyak, a Microsoft marketing director.

(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...


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Ruh roh
1 posted on 04/23/2012 4:12:24 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

The main pillar of M$ computing here.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 4:14:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

“Ruh Roh” is right.

All the computers at my work have XP as our OS. If Vista (a pox be upon it) isn’t available, we’re going to have to go with Win7. Our IT guy may have some work ahead of him.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 4:20:23 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Nachum

,,, personally I like XP better than the Windows 7 system . Paint and MS Word and Photos were much better on XP .


4 posted on 04/23/2012 4:21:16 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Nachum
technology environment has shifted

Seems like even though XP was/is more vulnerable to hackers, it is also easier to fix, mainly by replacing corrupted files. WIth 7, they assume the files are perfect and special and blessed and they'll be damned if they let you replace/repair any of them. Hackers don't seem to have that limitation.

5 posted on 04/23/2012 4:22:05 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Nachum

The problem with MS support begins with when you try to find the support area for the product you want.

Mostly you will find yourself shuffled off to the forums which are almost as useless as the Google Gmail forums.

If you truly want free support from some volunteer folks with the right answers most of the time, go to www.techguy.org.

You’ll never go to Microsoft support again.


6 posted on 04/23/2012 4:22:10 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Nachum

On vista right now...I’ve never had a single problem with it.


7 posted on 04/23/2012 4:22:31 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Nachum

Windows XP is the Chevy smallblock V8 of operating systems.


8 posted on 04/23/2012 4:25:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: palmer
We've had issues with users on Windows 7 trying to put data in the "C:\Program Files" directory, and then wondering why Win7 security doesn't allow their programs to update their data.

Win7 security bites a lot of users, and I'm not convinced it really improves security against malware enough to be worth the hassle.

9 posted on 04/23/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Nachum

Meh, moving to Mac anyway.


10 posted on 04/23/2012 4:29:59 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nachum

Whutevuh. I still Office 2003 because I don’t care for the interface on the new Office products.


11 posted on 04/23/2012 4:31:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yardstick

1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2!


12 posted on 04/23/2012 4:32:17 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Newt is nuts!)
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To: Nachum

And because it doesn’t correct grammatical errors...


13 posted on 04/23/2012 4:32:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Nachum

‘Change we can’t believe in’....... oh well nothing lasts forever and computer OS’s have short shelf lives. Maybe I’ll buy a Mac instead just to register my own personal eff U with Microsoft.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Lionheartusa1

“Paint and MS Word and Photos were much better on XP.”

Hmmm, suspicion confirmed. I have Office 2010 courtesy of a program at work which lets us install it on our home PCs. The Microsoft Picture Manager Auto Correct of the O-2010 version is no where near as good as the one in the 2003 version. As for the graphic rendering of the OS’s GUI W7 w/ Aero is far better than XP imo.

I’m a W7 64-bit user and love it. The benefits of a 64-bit OS, board and CPU with DDR3 and USB-3 makes file access and transfers 4x - 8x the speed of my previous 32-bit XP on the same hardware. And my W7 is actually more stable than XP was.


15 posted on 04/23/2012 4:33:40 PM PDT by Justa
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To: hoagy62

October of this year seems to be the date of release of WINDOWS 8. At least that is the date most talked about. I’ll miss XP. Been a real good for my needs. Home ed. only.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 4:34:14 PM PDT by donozark (The key to winning the Vietnam War was not Vietnam, but Laos...)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Meh, moving to Mac anyway.
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Yep, I've had with Microsoft. My son uses Apple exclusively and he has worked both systems. When my Vista breaks down and my wife's XP support stops I am through with Microsoft systems. There is a reason why Apple is so popular - the young computer savvy crowd know what works best.

17 posted on 04/23/2012 4:49:20 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Celtic Cross

That’s a damned good analogy.


18 posted on 04/23/2012 4:53:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Nachum

bkmk


19 posted on 04/23/2012 5:04:55 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Vendome

I’m still using Office 97.


20 posted on 04/23/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Cool but going to be a little hard to find a floppy drive these days... /S > ; <


21 posted on 04/23/2012 5:13:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Nachum

Darn it, I don’t want XP to go away. I’m already hating all the compatibility issues that will come up! ARRGHHH!


22 posted on 04/23/2012 5:13:37 PM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: jaz.357

What if you have a counter rotating 2nd engine in your boat?


23 posted on 04/23/2012 5:19:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Makes me wonder if a group of current Microsoft employees couldn’t resign and form a new company that would continue support of XP.


24 posted on 04/23/2012 5:31:11 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Nachum

“Eff” MS. There are ALOT of old machines that still use XP and will NOT be able to run Win7. Mostly, those machines are owned by families and small business - who don’t have an IT guy on staff to tweak the old machine.

Using Win7 Ultimate at home on the big machine, only because I am forced to because of school.

I’m going to take the XP bench machines that I have and partition them as a dual boot, so I can run Linux on them.

The more I learn about MS, the more I dislike them.


25 posted on 04/23/2012 5:34:52 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Nachum

I’ve had two machines running Vista for several years now (Vista was OEM, so there were no upgrade issues). They’ve both performed flawlessly since the day I brought them home. What am I doing wrong?


26 posted on 04/23/2012 5:37:12 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I’m still using Office 97.

Then shifting to LibreOffice will be a piece of cake.

27 posted on 04/23/2012 5:38:48 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

I’ve gone to Google Docs.


28 posted on 04/23/2012 5:46:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Trod Upon
What am I doing wrong?

What you were probably doing right was running Vista with Service Pack 1 or later installed. The original Vista was a bugfest, but Microsoft fixed it.

29 posted on 04/23/2012 5:46:52 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Nachum

In that case, I hope that two years from now, a version of Linux is so user-friendly, I won’t care what Microsoft offers. I’ve heard good things about Linux Mint, but haven’t bothered to try it yet. Being a non-power user, XP does everything I need.


30 posted on 04/23/2012 5:53:12 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: dfwgator
I’ve gone to Google Docs.

People love it, and I suppose it is the future of word processing, but I have resisted so far. Are my concerns about Google's contempt for my privacy unwarranted?

31 posted on 04/23/2012 5:53:12 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Celtic Cross

You are definitely one of the few.


32 posted on 04/23/2012 6:00:53 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: madison10
XP will be around for years. I have 98 on one old notebook and it still works great. Updates, who really needs them. Check out Gizmos techsupportalert for the best freeware site ever.
33 posted on 04/23/2012 6:01:24 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: Nachum

The wife and I both use HP Mini netbooks as the basis for our system with peripheral everything. Her netbook has XP w/SP3, and mine came with Win7. The difference in performance is astounding. I wish I could go back to XP. Win7 is a memory hog.


34 posted on 04/23/2012 6:06:24 PM PDT by Sarajevo ( Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then again, neither does milk.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Updates, who really needs them.

Anyone who wants to both connect to the Internet and keep the bad guys off of his computer.

35 posted on 04/23/2012 6:09:21 PM PDT by TChad
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To: wildbill

Or you could just call me wildbill, I’ll there everyday :) Actually, I am a sales rep. in the the corporate space and what you say about our consumer sales tech support is absolutely true.


36 posted on 04/23/2012 6:32:57 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: TChad

The old adage “you get what you pay for” has never been more appropriate.
I used it for quite some time and it’s a great office solution for companies that are cutting costs/in the startup phase or home users who don’t need the full functionality of MS Office.
Of course, none of that takes into account the fact that you know full and well that Google is spying on you.


37 posted on 04/23/2012 6:46:35 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: Nachum
MS has been trying to kill XP for some time. The problem for MS is that XP is a good OS and they screwed the pooch with the Vista OS that was supposed to replace it. [When Dell, the biggest OEM manufacturer tells MS it will not upgrade its OS to Vista and keeps the XP option alive for purchasers, says a lot about the Vista OS.]

My local small network has six computers; 4 with XP Pro and 2 with Win7 (one with 32-bit and the other with 64-bit). Operationally, I can't see any difference in operation.

The one thing that irritates me about MS is when they come up with a new OS, they rearrange the file directory structure or rename certain of them or change the icon. That causes confusion when you're trying to find something and it's not located under the directory you're used to finding it in.

Now, will I upgrade from XP to Win7? I believe that if it is working OK and it isn't broken, you don't fix it. I think there is a niche market for XP geeks to band together to keep XP alive when and if MS stops supporting it. It makes sense simply because there are so many machines running XP. Even Win7 is partitioned so you can run some XP programs on it, because they won't run on Win7.

If Win8 is coming out in October, what does it offer over XP and Win7? In any event, if you go to Win8, wait until SP1 comes out so MS can have its customers troubleshoot their new OS for them. [That's the standard MS operating procedure.]

38 posted on 04/24/2012 12:55:42 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: TChad

I guess I should have prefaced that with MS ...updates.

There are a host of security stuff out there just as good as MS stuff and free.


39 posted on 04/24/2012 3:55:27 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: Vendome

Ah - it’s on a CD. But I do have Lotus Ami Pro and some other early 90s Lotus Suite apps on something like 40 floppies.


40 posted on 04/24/2012 5:40:58 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: FlyVet
In that case, I hope that two years from now, a version of Linux is so user-friendly, I won’t care what Microsoft offers.

I've been hoping the same for 10 years. I try 4 or 5 distributions every year, but go back to Windows. The Linux community tends to look at user friendliness as a temporary fad.

41 posted on 04/24/2012 5:57:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
The Linux community tends to look at user friendliness as a temporary fad.

Yeah, that's too bad. But I suppose, being geeks, they can't help but tinker with things.

"It's easy!" Yeah, it's easy for those who live, eat, and breathe computers and software all day long. But for the rest us, we like to turn it on and use it, without spending months trying to figure it out.

It can be done, though. First time I tried Open Office, never had a need for MS Office again. If someone can make a Linux version like that, I'm sold.

42 posted on 04/24/2012 4:53:14 PM PDT by FlyVet
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