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The Sierra Meteoric Blast
NBCBayArea.com ^ | updated 38 minutes ago 2012-04-23T23:45:43 | By Rob Mayeda

Posted on 04/23/2012 5:29:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Speaking to SpaceWeather.com, Bill Cooke, head of NASA’s MEO office says, “The energy is estimated at a whopping 3.8 kilotons of TNT, so this was a big event,” he continues. “I am not saying there was a 3.8 kiloton explosion on the ground in California. I am saying that the meteor possessed this amount of energy before it broke apart in the atmosphere. [The map] shows the location of the atmospheric breakup, not impact with the ground.”

The event that rattled windows, set off car alarms and glaringly bright enough to be seen in early morning daylight was also recorded via the Nevada Seismological Laboratory as the sound wave (sonic boom) passed across the ground from seismological station to station in Nevada.

Based on initial reports, University of Nevada Reno astronomers believed the likely cause was in fact an exploding meteor, also known as a bolide roughly the size of a washing machine ... Scientists now believe the object may have been possibly larger...

“The fact that sonic booms were heard indicates that this meteor penetrated very low in atmosphere, which implies a speed less than 15 km/s (33,500 mph),” Cooke said to SpaceWeather.com ”Assuming this value for the speed, I get a mass for the meteor of around 70 metric tons. Hazarding a further guess at the density of 3 grams per cubic centimeter (solid rock), I calculate a size of about 3-4 meters, or about the size of a minivan.”

“This meteor was probably not a Lyrid; without a trajectory, I cannot rule out a Lyrid origin, but I think it likely that it was a background or sporadic meteor.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: astronomy; lyrids; meteor; meteorite

1 posted on 04/23/2012 5:29:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

Object the a size of a “mini-van” entered the atmosphere yesterday.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 5:30:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s exactly why I delay tax form finalization until October.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 5:32:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin

Too bad it didn’t hit a Iranian nuclear facility


4 posted on 04/23/2012 5:40:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: Paladin2

If you could wait until after December 21st, you won’t have to worry about anything.


5 posted on 04/23/2012 6:00:42 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: BenLurkin

“also known as a bolide roughly the size of a washing machine”

I know exactly what happened!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_jLpd-_gdY
(action begins at 50 seconds.)


6 posted on 04/23/2012 6:06:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: BenLurkin

This morning I saw coverage that tracked the event based on the locations of 911 calls.

Due east from the SF bay area. South along the Nevada side of the Sierras. Due west to the Greater Los Angeles area.

Two sharp turns in a “meteor” track.

Nothing like this has been observed since 1908...


7 posted on 04/23/2012 6:08:07 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1189 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Did the last turn of the meteor put it on an intercept course for Area 51? Maybe it landed there? Those fast movers really move fast ya know!


8 posted on 04/23/2012 6:19:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: null and void
Two sharp turns in a “meteor” track.

Got to watch them meteors that do sharp turns to bleed off speed :^)

9 posted on 04/23/2012 6:27:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: null and void
Nothing like this has been observed since 1908...

You bet.

I missed it, and would have paid money to see/hear it.

Some folks said it was the loudest thing they ever heard. One guy described it as sounding like a rocket launch.

One can just imagine an asteroid the size of Dodger stadium coming in.

10 posted on 04/23/2012 6:32:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Hmmmm. From what I recall of the map it blew past Area 51 and ended up pointed sorta at Edwards...


11 posted on 04/23/2012 6:38:55 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1189 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: dragnet2

This one and Tunguska are the only two I’ve ever heard of that made sharp turns.


12 posted on 04/23/2012 6:41:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1189 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: BenLurkin

I didn’t hear a thng.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 6:44:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: null and void

There are images of it, if you haven’t seen them.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 6:44:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Images of the turns?


15 posted on 04/23/2012 6:47:11 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1189 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

No, the meteor.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 6:54:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Cajun

it’s possible to turn, once some of the meteor has broken/burnt off. You are assuming the meteor is made of a solid substance, whereas it probably is an amalgam.

Under stress, it can break, or burn off at different rates, which change the shape of the rock/meteor. Once this occurs, it *probably* will change direction — by how much is determined by the shape of what’s left.

Keep in mind, even it it was an “alien” or earth craft, you can’t change direction very fast (laws of physics at work here) and drag, of course. So unless it’s “magic” you won’t see 90 degree turns or such nonsense.


17 posted on 04/23/2012 7:28:46 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
Didn't say 90 degree turns, was talking about turns much like the space shuttle makes to bleed of speed in the atmosphere.
18 posted on 04/23/2012 7:48:58 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

Yeah, the shuttle has very small movable surfaces, and rockets to enable it to change it’s trajectory. A much bigger trajectory change can occur when a alrge part of *something* breaks off!

There are plenty of mysteries win the universe without creating them.

There is a big difference between what we know, what we want to know, and what we can ever know.

If you want some *speculation*....here’s some..... Let’s see...NK rocket rails in 3rd stage. US has recently tested high altitude intercept of ballistic missiles over the pacific.....NK is *really* mad about the failure of the rocket (instead of embarrassed). Hmmmmmm????


19 posted on 04/23/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BenLurkin

The values used this story, kg and km/s, are all in metric system. The asteroid burned up in the United States; the experts, at UNVR and NASA, are employed in U.S. government jobs; the journalists work for an American company; that company transmits its story over American taxpayer-owned frequencies or over the American taxpayer-owned electric-system grid by cable-systems.
If we don’t want our American way to disappear, then let’s force all these American government agencies and American companies to speak American: inches, feet, yards, miles; pint, quart, gallon; ounce, pound, ton.


20 posted on 04/23/2012 8:20:52 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: BenLurkin

Big mini van but a cube 4m x 2m x 2m of solid steel would be about 125MT.


21 posted on 04/23/2012 9:08:22 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: BenLurkin

I live in Placerville and I had just gotten up and heard it. Ran out back and was looking to the east and the sound was like a space shuttle launch or a jet flying low... I thought to myself, ok this is it. I had no clue what it was. I am glad to have found out the cause. Still scary.


22 posted on 04/23/2012 11:46:28 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: dragnet2

The rocket launch analogy is good. It sounded like the popping of the space shuttle launches. Interesting but freaky.


23 posted on 04/23/2012 11:48:19 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: BenLurkin

Whoever locates the debris field is going to make a few bucks.


24 posted on 04/24/2012 8:20:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BereanBrain; null and void
"A much bigger trajectory change can occur when a large part of *something* breaks off!"

Yup..

25 posted on 04/24/2012 9:05:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BereanBrain; dragnet2
So unless it’s “magic” you won’t see 90 degree turns or such nonsense.

Yet the 911 call track shows TWO near 90° turns.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~ Arthur C. Clarke

Eye witness accounts on the Tunguska event also reported radical direction changes.

A much bigger trajectory change can occur when a large part of *something* breaks off!

Conservation of momentum would require a bifurcated track for a large part breaking off, not a single object making a sharp turn (although I suppose a change in aerodynamic shape could happen by shedding a smallish edge or other feature).

26 posted on 04/24/2012 9:30:12 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

911 call track?


27 posted on 04/24/2012 10:11:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

See post #7.


28 posted on 04/24/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Oh.

I don’t think I buy two sharp turns based on some 911 calls.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 10:26:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I wouldn’t based on some.

There were scores along each of the legs of the track.

Data points are stubborn things.


30 posted on 04/24/2012 10:31:34 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

So this meteor made two sharp turns based on 911 calls?

So what do you suspect caused this?


31 posted on 04/24/2012 10:36:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t know how “sharp” the turns were. Abrupt? 50 mile radius?

Beats me. Off hand I’d say maneuvering is a sign of intelligence.


32 posted on 04/24/2012 10:42:40 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Oh...

Well, I am waiting for one the size of a stadium to hit. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened in the past hundred years.

I’ve seen a whole bunch of stuff through optics. To be honest, it’s really spooky stuff when looking at a star field, and suddenly an object enters the field of view and slowly exits. No way these are satellites which I’ve also seen crossing the FOV. Bit sat’s are very fast, crossing within a fraction of a second.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 10:54:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Well, I am waiting for one the size of a stadium to hit.

Me too. If there is a Just God it will strike mecca.

At the height of the hajj...

34 posted on 04/24/2012 11:05:24 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

eyewitness is notoriously unreliable.

Give me radar data, showing 90 degree turns (even one will do), then we will talk.


35 posted on 04/24/2012 12:05:05 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Hmmmm. Challenging. Radar didn’t exist in 1908.

As to the 911 calls do you believe scores people who didn’t hear an explosion called 911, while not one of the tens thousands of people on what would have been a straight track who did hear an explosion didn’t call 911? That would explain the three straight line tracks.

Do you doubt the Bible because it consists of only of eye witness accounts?


36 posted on 04/24/2012 12:30:22 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Interesting!


37 posted on 04/24/2012 12:42:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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