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George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting
Reuters ^ | April 25, 2012 | Chris Francescani

Posted on 04/25/2012 1:23:22 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(Reuters) - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.

The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.

"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said.

"Get a gun."

That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.

By June 2011, Zimmerman's attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago.

On February 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; rkba; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 04/25/2012 1:23:24 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Zimmerman's attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes

Do we know if Trayvon had visited that community before the week he was shot?

2 posted on 04/25/2012 1:26:03 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The more ya hear about this case, the better Zim looks.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime. "

So much for the Media lie that Zimmerman was a "self-appointed" neighborhood watch captain.

4 posted on 04/25/2012 1:29:46 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Defiant

I’d rather see the outlaw of hoodies.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 1:31:24 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just finished reading it. This is what used to pass for journalism. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 04/25/2012 1:42:25 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Dogbert41

When acquitted a community needs to come forward and ask the Zimmerman family to consider moving to their town. If no community or it’s leaders come forward than this is truly-hate to say it-”A nation of cowards.”


7 posted on 04/25/2012 1:42:56 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"It'll take two or three seconds to take effect,

Pepper spray, yes. Oven cleaner, no.

/johnny

8 posted on 04/25/2012 1:46:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Great line from the article, one that tells the story of how blacks in this country are ostracized if they don't join up with the Obama/Sharpton lynch mob:

"Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."

IGNORED BY THE NATIONAL AND FLORIDA MEDIA: not so much this woman's opinion on the case, but the fact that blacks who do not buy into the Obama/Sharpton lynch mob mentality are afraid to be named!

9 posted on 04/25/2012 1:47:18 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The New Black Racists ain’t gonna like this.


10 posted on 04/25/2012 1:47:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not only is he a White Hispanic, he’s also a White Black.


11 posted on 04/25/2012 1:57:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"...The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him...."
12 posted on 04/25/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So now it’s a black-on-black shooting. The media can ignore it now.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 2:05:30 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: DIRTYSECRET

http://www.wstx.us/


14 posted on 04/25/2012 2:08:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.

“Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”


15 posted on 04/25/2012 2:09:36 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.

So, George is a white-black-hispanic. Ben Crump is greatly saddened.

16 posted on 04/25/2012 2:12:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Although Reuters is a usually-left-leaning outfit, this article on the whole seems balanced and neutral towards him.

Why is it that we, as Americans, now have to rely on “offshore” news organizations to offer up detailed reporting such as this?

What has happened to American journalism?


17 posted on 04/25/2012 2:13:35 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Police found Demeacis's laptop in the backpack of 18-year-old Emmanuel Burgess, police reports show, and charged him with dealing in stolen property

Trayvon had jewelry and a screw driver in his backpack. Coincidence?

Good article until the last few sentences but I will give Reuters credit for stepping back from the koolaid stand. When can we expect this story to be picked up by CNN and the NYT?

18 posted on 04/25/2012 2:29:15 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Our man in washington
They can't ignore it now, the tee shirts are printed.
19 posted on 04/25/2012 2:34:01 PM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Crossbows are ideally suited for such 4-legged pests.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 2:39:31 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: DannyTN

I thought he was a self appointed black teen asassin. So much for the mainstream news..


21 posted on 04/25/2012 2:40:46 PM PDT by omega4179 (#OBAMAATEDOG)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Great article!


22 posted on 04/25/2012 2:47:30 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: DuncanWaring
Zimmerman is at least as black as Obama. (Hint, Obama is not half black.)
23 posted on 04/25/2012 2:51:38 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He bought the gun to protect him and his wife from a pit bull. I love a success story!


24 posted on 04/25/2012 2:55:44 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

1/16 Black, 7/16 Arab.


25 posted on 04/25/2012 2:56:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Our man in washington

keyboard spew alert


26 posted on 04/25/2012 3:04:36 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

As in laughter at or disgust at my comment? I was being very sarcastic in my comment up-thread. I don’t think the media should ignore black-on-black crime. But the fact is they do.


27 posted on 04/25/2012 3:11:13 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: DuncanWaring; USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Why don’t you guys ask Beckwith about how reliable a source Kenneth Lamb is? He asked Lamb for proof several times back in ‘08. To the best of my knowledge, Lamb never responded. I saw a pic of Hussein’s daddy, and at least to the best of my knowledge, he didn’t look Arab at all.


28 posted on 04/25/2012 3:11:35 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Just because one is famous doesn't mean that they know more than everybody else.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

Just about tired of hearing about "neighborhood watch guidelines." That's just another freedom-sucking, rights-stealing federal jack-booted-thug program designed to disarm citizens and get them dependent on unconstitutional non-peace-officer police.

29 posted on 04/25/2012 3:16:01 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Our man in washington

As in irony, I suppose. Is that safe? (I don’t dare venture to say yes these days.)


30 posted on 04/25/2012 3:31:02 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Afro-peruvian. Afro-freaking-Peruvian.

if this the post-racial world, I want the pre-racial one.

31 posted on 04/25/2012 3:53:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: DannyTN

Neighborhood Watch :

Sanford Police Department (they organize and issue the signs)

Sponsored by the National Sheriffs’ Association, Neighborhood Watch can trace its roots back to the days of colonial settlements, when night watchmen patrolled the streets. The modern version of Neighborhood Watch was developed in 1972 as a response to requests from sheriffs and police chiefs

Click on this link,
then click “...more menu options..”
then click “Crime Prevention”
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/police/index.html


32 posted on 04/25/2012 3:58:34 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seems like they had a major problem with the ferals. And only Trayvon gets shot?


33 posted on 04/25/2012 3:59:34 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (From the dough tree we get donuts.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Afro-peruvian. Afro-freaking-Peruvian. if this the post-racial world, I want the pre-racial one.

Zimmerman probably didn't think of himself as Afro-Peruvian.

That was a part of his family past, not his own identity.

It only comes out now that he's in the news.

Maybe he was "post-racial" (or pre-post-racial) before all this happened.

And the "pre-racial" world -- how many millennia ago was that?

34 posted on 04/25/2012 4:00:51 PM PDT by x
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To: DuncanWaring; Free ThinkerNY

Do you realize that since his grandmother is a product of a racial mixed marriage like our president, Zimmerman is more of a match to “son of Obama” then TM.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 4:07:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is an excellent article. Thanks for posting it.


36 posted on 04/25/2012 4:10:56 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

An amusing anecdote about profiling - before Bush came to office in 2001, the disproportionate scrutiny of air travelers who looked Middle Eastern or wore traditional Muslim garb was standard in the American airline industry, due to the historical experience of hijackers and terrorists in fatal attacks against American airlines being mainly Middle Eastern and Muslim. Just before 9/11/01, Bush forbade this increased scrutiny, criticizing it as this fundamental injustice. Then 9/11 happened. 10,000 dead Americans and $1T in war-related expenditures later, the country’s self-appointed elites are still engaged in a campaign of fulmination against profiling.


37 posted on 04/25/2012 4:16:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: bgill
Good article until the last few sentences but I will give Reuters credit for stepping back from the koolaid stand.

Yep, falters somewhat at the end but overall better than I expected from Reuters.

38 posted on 04/25/2012 4:47:16 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa
Pretty hard to fit this account into the wannabe police KKK out to kill an innocent black child narrative pushed by the MSM.
39 posted on 04/25/2012 4:56:58 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, why is Al Sharpton trying to lynch a black man?


40 posted on 04/25/2012 6:02:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Alinsky would be crapping bricks.

George Zimmerman REFUSES to stay frozen!!!

41 posted on 04/25/2012 6:04:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Free ThinkerNY; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...

.

Ping.

Check out article, and comments, ... esp # 4.

_

From previous FR article, now closed:

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting (Reuters finds that GZ has black ancestors)
The New York Post / Reuters ^ | April 25, 2012

A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.

The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law’s dog.

Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again.

An officer came to the house, county records show.

“Don’t use pepper spray,” he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. “It’ll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you,” he said.

“Get a gun.”

That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge...

—snip—

The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2876486/posts


42 posted on 04/25/2012 6:06:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: kanawa

A rare case of Reuters flubbing the mainstream media agenda.


43 posted on 04/25/2012 6:07:01 PM PDT by Misterioso ( “Talking about music is like dancing about architecture.” Thelonious Monk)
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To: Our man in washington; SteveH

As in you win the thread...


44 posted on 04/25/2012 6:08:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: dragnet2

BUMP


45 posted on 04/25/2012 6:13:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: dragnet2

I agree


46 posted on 04/25/2012 6:16:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thanks for the info.


47 posted on 04/25/2012 6:18:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: donna

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/police/flyers/Neighborhood_Watch_english.pdf


48 posted on 04/25/2012 6:23:04 PM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

And true of all neighborhoods across the nation - except no one in the media ever heard of such a thing apparently.

Strangers don’t wander neighborhoods without many eyes watching them. It’s normal.


49 posted on 04/25/2012 6:43:11 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zimmerman cannot be Hispanic or Black, he must be WHITE to fit the dominant narrative.


50 posted on 04/25/2012 7:13:29 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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