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New Yorkers bring fish farms to urban jungle
AsiaOne.com ^ | Apr 28, 2012 | unknown

Posted on 04/28/2012 11:16:35 AM PDT by Daffynition

NEW YORK - So you recycle, drive a small car, and try to eat organic. But what about running an eco-sustainable fish farm combined with a naturally fertilized vegetable patch in your kitchen?

Christopher Toole and Anya Pozdeeva, two former New York bankers who founded the Society for Aquaponic Values and Education (SAVE), are there to help.

"We call it 'beyond organic,'" Pozdeeva, 39, said.

Aquaponics is a technique with ancient roots for breeding tank fish, recycling their effluent-filled water to fertilize vegetation, then allowing this naturally cleaned water to drip back into the tank below.

It's a perfect, miniature eco system that will let you grow healthy food right in a cramped apartment with almost no specialist equipment.

(Excerpt) Read more at asiaone.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
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"Right now I have 10,000 bees in our living room," he says. "So I'm not just sleeping with fish, but with bees."

Oh, OK.

1 posted on 04/28/2012 11:16:43 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

This seems like a dumb idea for an apartment to me, but sounds like it would make an awesome greenhouse.


2 posted on 04/28/2012 11:21:21 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Daffynition
I bought some hydro tomatoes. They sat on the counter for 5 weeks....not a speck of degrading...nothing...they were perfect...and because mother nature says to rot...

I threw them out and I'll NEVER BUY THEM AGAIN. THEY MUST BE GENETICALLY MODIFIED...and it was scarey to see this...

3 posted on 04/28/2012 11:23:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
There's gotta be a joke in here somewhere, but I sure can't find it.
4 posted on 04/28/2012 11:27:52 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s sort of like buying ultra pasteurized milk. It lasts longer in the refrigerator.

They didn’t rot because they were raised in an environment where contaminants like molds and bacteria were strictly excluded. Sounds like a plus to me.


5 posted on 04/28/2012 11:30:31 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: mamelukesabre

Agreed. But this might be a good idea to ping your Prepper friends with.....


6 posted on 04/28/2012 11:39:27 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: glorgau

But they have no taste. pretty, but blah.

Pass the contaminents, molds, and bacteria please.


7 posted on 04/28/2012 11:40:30 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Daffynition

A relative of mine tried this same set-up in a greenhouse.

The tomatoes had absolutely no flavor, absolutely tasteless.


8 posted on 04/28/2012 12:10:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

I haven’t had a good tomato in years. Even if I don’t put them in the fridge..


9 posted on 04/28/2012 12:14:41 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Rebelbase

Outstanding idea! The rest of you, as you were and play it safe.


10 posted on 04/28/2012 12:18:40 PM PDT by stimpy17 (Home of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: goseminoles

I’ve got a dozen Cherokee Purple plants to put into the garden this year.


11 posted on 04/28/2012 12:19:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: digger48
I recall an old Isaac Asimov story about an advanced society which considered delicious food to be a high cultural achievement. They had something like a Nobel Prize for the greatest chef. Food was basically variations of funghi grown in vats, but they added sophisticated chemicals to make it all taste great.

Then, one year, some guy creates a dish which is historic in its deliciousness. The judges can't rave enough about it. Finally, the guy reveals his secret -- it's something he calls "garlic" and he grew it.

One of the judges manages to gasp out, "You grew it?? In the dirt???" and then he vomits.

12 posted on 04/28/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Rebelbase

We used to grow tomatoes down by the river. The roots would grow under the shallow layer of soil and into the river water. BEST ‘MATERS EVER! Though I suspect that’s not the same as growing them in a limited spaced tilapia garbage can in a NYC apartment. Can you imagine the smell in that apartment, ick.


13 posted on 04/28/2012 1:08:09 PM PDT by bgill
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To: mamelukesabre

I’ve seen aquaponic setups that used a goldfish tank and a few potted plants. It can be scaled to fit the space.


14 posted on 04/28/2012 1:32:36 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Rebelbase

I’m growing the cherokee purple - and a lot of other heirlooms - and they’re doing great!


15 posted on 04/28/2012 1:43:49 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: Daffynition

When my daughter first moved to NYC she had a neighbor who saw her mission in life as ‘rescuing’ squirrels from Washington Square. She’d have up to 20 at a time in her NYC-sized apt. World is full of loons.


16 posted on 04/28/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
I have squirrels living in my attic. I called an exterminator and found out that it's illegal to kill squirrels in MA, so I'm kind of stuck with them.

MA is a state run by loons.

(And, no, I'm not really stuck with them -- because these things can be dealt with "unofficially".)

17 posted on 04/28/2012 1:58:31 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Buy a pet fisher cat, and turn it loose in your attic.


18 posted on 04/28/2012 2:05:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

I went down to Fisher Cats R Us but they were fresh out.


19 posted on 04/28/2012 2:08:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Catch one yourself then...they run wild in MA.


20 posted on 04/28/2012 2:13:31 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sacajaweau; hinckley buzzard; Daffynition
it was scarey

There is that song by Metallica...

"Sleep with one eye open
Grippin' your pillow tight..."
"...Hush little baby don't say a word
And never mind that noise you heard
It's just a tomato under your bed
In your closet in your head"

"Enter Sandman" by Metallica

21 posted on 04/28/2012 2:22:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: glorgau
Our neighbor died in the house, it was 9 weeks before anybody checked, she was a real privacy freak. When the power was going to be shut off she was found.

In her fridge was a few cartons of milk, all were still fresh. I think all the milk in Alaska is ultra pasteurized to survive the shipping. I wonder if the milk is so inert that bacteria and mold cant digest it, how do we digest it?

Is that why Americans who have a higher dairy intake than most all people groups also suffer from calcium deficiency problems. I suspect pasteurizing it locks down the calcium.

22 posted on 04/28/2012 3:00:16 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: EDINVA
Mess...disease...desruction. Yes. What a loon!

On the east side off 2nd Ave, there's a funny, tiny little strip of land with a few trees, not sure I'd call it a park, that boasts black squirrels.


23 posted on 04/28/2012 3:11:33 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Sacajaweau

We have a group of Mennonites here that sell their perfect hydroponic tomatoes at a farmer’s market...their table always has a jump-start on the other vendors promoting their produce. The tomatoes are wonderful! Off-season they sell to local restaurants.


24 posted on 04/28/2012 3:15:20 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

Can’t figure out quite why, but the grounds of the National Cathedral in DC also host black squirrels.


25 posted on 04/28/2012 3:20:36 PM PDT by EDINVA (q)
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To: Daffynition
Cute picture, but black squirrels are quite common in the midwest.
26 posted on 04/28/2012 3:24:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Daffynition

I wonder what they’re doing to maintain the flavor? We see perfect, gorgeous tomatoes around here that are hydroponically grown, but they’re very bland tasting. I’ve always thought that growing them in soil out in the weather mattered as far as flavor, as a result.


27 posted on 04/28/2012 3:24:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: bgill
Though I suspect that’s not the same as growing them in a limited spaced tilapia garbage can in a NYC apartment. Can you imagine the smell in that apartment, ick.

I have 12 tomato plants growing in hydroponic beds watered from a 600 gallon stock tank. It smells like fresh lake water.

28 posted on 04/28/2012 6:15:05 PM PDT by Sarajevo ( Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then again, neither does milk.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Reminds me of a friend in NOLA. Had a tree in front of his house; its roots had dug up the sidewalk and were threatening the house foundation itself. Alas, the tree is a “protected” species, and its removal required winning a lottery and special dispensation from the Pope (or a Landrieu).

When Katrina hit it wiped out much of their neighborhood, including one daughter’s home that was fully wrecked, our friend’s that was so damaged they couldn’t move back for two years, and a son’s home that had somewhat acceptable damage. But, the (blanking) tree withstood it all. And stands to this day, “protected.”


29 posted on 04/28/2012 9:07:44 PM PDT by EDINVA
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