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Chrysler workers: Schedules change May 7 (UAW workers upset)
Kokomo Tribune ^ | April 27, 2012 | Daniel Human

Posted on 04/28/2012 8:14:21 PM PDT by digger48

Employees upset with higher-ups at company, union

Kokomo — An Alternative Work Schedule begins May 7 at Chrysler Group’s three transmission plants in Kokomo, and many employees see only disadvantages to shifts the company said would benefit the workers.

United Auto Workers members affected by the change learned details about the new schedule Thursday during union meetings.

AWS is also known as 3-2-120 because three employee groups work two shifts every day for a total of 120 production hours every week.

Instead of working a traditional eight hours per day for five days per week, Chrysler’s transmission plants’ employees will work 10 hours per day for four days per week.

(snip)

“Chrysler Corporation and UAW International are the ones making us do this. It’s going to disrupt a lot of families.”

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“It was 106 degrees on my job last year ... Eight hours a day in that was horrid. Now I’ve got 10-and-a-half,” Landis said. “They’re sitting in an air-conditioned office, telling us how bad they feel for us.

“People don’t understand the wear and tear on your body in a place like that,” she later said. “Yes, we are paid good wages, but you know what? It’s nice to be treated like a human being.”

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Landis said she was concerned about the AWS’ effects on families, especially parents who have a little more than a week to find someone trustworthy and willing to watch their children for more than 10 hours a day.

“A ton of single parents are from New Castle, St. Louis,” she said. “A lot of these people don’t have family here. ... These parents are not going to be able to put their kids on the bus, nor are they going to get them off the bus.

(Excerpt) Read more at kokomotribune.com ...


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We have to listen to them guffaw and boast about their $3000 bonuses for just showing up everyday and doing their normal job at the normal pace.

But one little change in their $30/hr world, and you'd think they were being asked to give up a kidney.

I raised my 2 kids on a lot less money than UAW workers make and working longer hours 6 days a week. My kids still managed to get to and from school somehow.

1 posted on 04/28/2012 8:14:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

I used to love to work four ten-hour days. Every weekend was three days long. AND there was the opportunity to work the fifth day and make some overtime.

My mother worked three twelve-hour days and got paid for 40 hours in Californica back in the 80s and she liked it too.

Sniveling little spoiled SOBs.


2 posted on 04/28/2012 8:21:36 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: digger48

Did you ever work on a 106 degree factory floor with constant 90 db noise levels? It really saps the life out of you. If they paid factory workers the pittance you claim to have raised two kids on, no one would work in them unless you used slave labor.

Taking a pay cut to get out of a factory was the happiest day of my life. There is no job more dehumanizing than working an assembly line. I didn’t even work the line (I was the shift electrician), but I always felt bad for those guys who spent the whole shift out there in front of a machine.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 8:29:04 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

“Did you ever work on a 106 degree factory floor with constant 90 db noise levels? It really saps the life out of you.”
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I worked assembly before as temp job right after college as extra money for my university tuition. I 100% agree with you. You go brain-dead like a liberal at an Obama rally after 2 hours. The only time I told myself I have to get an education or else was at that point and when I worked at McDonald’s in high school and the chick I had a crush at school saw me mopping the floors.


4 posted on 04/28/2012 8:34:50 PM PDT by max americana
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To: AZ .44 MAG

I’ve made a lot of money off of the union workers over the years. If you pay otherwise unintelligent people a bunch of money, they spend it.

That’s the Democrat version of trickle -down economics. Take it from the rich, run it through Washington, and give whats left to the unions to spend.

a few years ago, they simply cut out the overtime that most had come to rely on. Within just 2 weeks of the smaller paychecks, there were 500 bankruptcy filings in town.

Some of them are good, down-to-earth folks. but some of them are absolutely the most self-entitled, spoiled whiners you ever want to encounter. You can tell the Democrats from Republicans that way.

They draw their union provided lawyer like a six-shooter whenever they feel slighted. And being liberals, thats 24/7/365.


5 posted on 04/28/2012 8:38:12 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bryanw92
Forget that on this site. Anyone who isn't a "professional" is considered nothing more than a loser here on FR. Factory workers are the lowest form of life.

Changing the hours on a week's notice is probably against the law.

6 posted on 04/28/2012 8:40:10 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Bryanw92
Did you ever work on a 106 degree factory floor with constant 90 db noise levels?(

Why, actully yes. I have.

I never said I made a pittance, just a whole lot less tham the union people, and with no bennies.

And yes...I worked in a bearing factory for a year, right next to the heat treat. member of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. Made cam follower bearings for Sikorsky and others.

I had a choice and I also chose to get out of there. I've spent the last 40 years working outside in all kinds of temperatures. Wouldn't have had it any other way.

Nobody forces anyone to work at an auto plant., and I know a whole lot of people who work in whole lots worse conditions for a whole lot less than UAW members make.

7 posted on 04/28/2012 8:49:21 PM PDT by digger48
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To: raybbr
Factory workers are the lowest form of life

that's good to hear. I thought it was ditch diggers like me.

8 posted on 04/28/2012 8:52:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bryanw92
Did you ever work on a 106 degree factory floor with constant 90 db noise levels? It really saps the life out of you. If they paid factory workers the pittance you claim to have raised two kids on, no one would work in them unless you used slave labor.

I worked in a paper mill in So Cal (LA area) in the late 70s and early 80s after my discharge from the USMC. Hot, dirty, smelly, boring, backbreaking work. But I did it the best I could while I was there.

I never thought to make a career out of it, it was a stepping stone. If you don't like your job look for something else. That's the beauty of our system when it's allowed to work. There are opportunities to improve.

Unions stagnate and cripple industries and make members dependent on them. A perfect symbiosis with the DemocRATS.

Just my two cents.

9 posted on 04/28/2012 8:53:41 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: raybbr

These characters need to quit complaining. They have a job. I spent 13 years supporting assembly line operations. I have a pretty good idea what they are doing.

They need to shut up and be thankfull they have a job.


10 posted on 04/28/2012 8:54:47 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: digger48

Landis needs to come work S.Texas in August.
Primma Donnas
Is anything worse than Primma Donna Communists!


11 posted on 04/28/2012 8:54:53 PM PDT by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: Bryanw92

try spending 12 hour days with a screaming GM diesel engine running at 180 degrees just 5 feet behind your head and 150 degree clutches and brakes just inches from you. I spent close to 30 years doing that very thing.

In 100 degree weather and 10 degree weather. breeze or no breeze. grease, dust and constant danger.

I just couldn’t bring myself to be just another one of the union collective.

And I can see a lot of my lifes work on Google Earth. Not everyone can say that.


12 posted on 04/28/2012 9:08:46 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bryanw92

No...I worked in a ONE HUNDRED THIRTY DEGREE WAREHOUSE IN THE SUMMER AND MINUS ZERO IN THE WINTER LOADING AND UNLOADING SEMI TRUCKS ONE BOX AT A TIME WITH MY BARE HANDS.


13 posted on 04/28/2012 9:12:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: digger48

Chelly Landes

14 posted on 04/28/2012 9:13:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

that’s a she?

eeeesshhh!


15 posted on 04/28/2012 9:16:55 PM PDT by digger48
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To: All
But think how the workers carbon footprint goes down by only commuting four days into work vs. five.

Companies did this in Los Angeles to get ride reduction credit with the air quality rules.

It's a (D) idea so they should be OK with it, right? /S

16 posted on 04/28/2012 9:45:38 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: mamelukesabre

To quote the great Monty Python. . .

‘Well we had it rough, we had get up at 6 am, a half an hour before we wen’t to bed, . . . .


17 posted on 04/28/2012 9:48:27 PM PDT by Leavemealone
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To: digger48
Having a hard time feeling pitty for the UAW.
18 posted on 04/28/2012 10:15:36 PM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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To: digger48

Well I worked construction in 175 degree heat and had to walk to work barefooted, uphill in both directions.


19 posted on 04/28/2012 10:21:21 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Bryan24
They need to shut up and be thankfull they have a job.

I had an idiot, A.A. 30 something first line manager tell our gang that once. I told him, "No, YOU'RE lucky we have jobs..... because without us, they don't need you!"

Long story short, I've been retired for a while now and he's been dead for about the same amount of time...the nose candy caught up with him.

20 posted on 04/28/2012 10:22:06 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: uptoolate

excellent post.


21 posted on 04/28/2012 10:25:10 PM PDT by digger48
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To: lwoodham

: )


22 posted on 04/28/2012 10:27:29 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bryanw92

>>Did you ever work on a 106 degree factory floor with constant 90 db noise levels?<<

Worked many summers in Texas mowing yards. Many days I wished it was 106 and the decibel level was only 90. Because of fair skin, I wore hot, long sleeved shirts in a time when the lightweight poly, UV protection shirts (and pants) didn’t exist. One summer I ended up with 30 yards — many more than I wanted — because idiots got in and out of the business and couldn’t work it. That was with a 4 HP mower and bag, and manual edger and hedge clippers. Today’s equipment makes that job look silly easy.


23 posted on 04/28/2012 10:29:36 PM PDT by 1L
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To: lwoodham
Well I worked construction in 175 degree heat...

Were you working in hell or Texas?

24 posted on 04/28/2012 11:00:00 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: AZ .44 MAG

10-4 is great. It’s hard during the work week, but the extra day off makes up for it.

I work nearly 12-5 on straight salary, so anyone complaining about overtime and long hours can suck it. My job is outside in the middle of winter and the height of summer. Factory work can suck, but the pay is pretty good and you don’t need a college degree.


25 posted on 04/28/2012 11:13:48 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: digger48
“It was 106 degrees on my job last year ... Eight hours a day in that was horrid. Now I’ve got 10-and-a-half,” Landis said. “They’re sitting in an air-conditioned office, telling us how bad they feel for us.

What a bunch of wusses. I used to work in a Plywood plant with dryers and presses going for the whole shift and in the summer(in CA)it was well over 110 in there.

I also worked 4 10 hour shifts for years and I loved it. 3 day weekend ever week. We did have the complainers saying it was soooo hard to work 10 hours straight but they were in the minority.

26 posted on 04/28/2012 11:19:56 PM PDT by calex59
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To: MediaMole

“I work nearly 12-5 on straight salary, so anyone complaining about overtime and long hours can suck it. My job is outside in the middle of winter and the height of summer.”

Preach to the chior, baby!
I’d LOVE to see some of these people on the ramp at Las Vegas, tossing around 50+ Lb. bags on a 114 degree day. That’s 114 BEFORE the reflection heat from the concrete.

I worked 3 12’s, 4 Off, 4-12’s, 3 off, FOR YEARS. Same schedule most cops and firefighters work. It didn’t kill me, and I had lots of time to pass-ride across the planet.

4-10’s would have seemed like a dream, especially with the WHOLE WEEKEND OFF, every weekend! (plus, I’m SURE they still get all of the UAW paid Holidays off, as well.)


27 posted on 04/28/2012 11:21:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: raybbr

...on this site. Anyone who isn’t a “professional” is considered nothing more than a loser here on FR. Factory workers are the lowest form of life.
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That’s a load of crap, rabbr! Your accusation about non-professionals being considered losers on FR is a load!

After the Navy, I worked as a machinist, diamond drill bit maker, Purex plant worker wading around in ankle deep bleach all night and having clothes fall apart after two weeks, apt.mgr. of 360 units while working 2nd shift at an airline (union), traffic garage at a defense plant (union), salaried non-union Eng., Engng. Tech at another defense plant, back to first defense plant as Eng., progressed through Mgt. to Mgr. of Quality Engineering before I retired.

During that lengthy period, I earned my AAS, BBA and MBA. As a manager of a half dozen functions I often dealt with the disgusting union mgt. and their reps. They didn’t care a damn about their members; only wanted to play-act like big boys so they could be voted in next time and continue to have super seniority preventing layoff and guaranteeing their salaries/pensions without having to work.

I’ve done lots of grunt work in my life and I don’t look down my nose on anyone else who is doing such work. In fact, I admire them for sticking to it, because I’ve been there and know how tough it is.

Sorry for the long ramble, but I personally took offense at your accusation.


28 posted on 04/29/2012 2:58:58 AM PDT by octex
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That’s a load of crap, rabbr! Your accusation about non-professionals being considered losers on FR is a load!

Yeah, I know. I have been reading the attacks and denigration of factory workers for over a decade but I got it wrong.

BTW, I've been blue collar for most of my life. I've only been in a union once. I also notice that your defense of your position is based on your experience with unions. No one ever mentions the millions of us who work in factories but are not union. Our company hasn't given out raises in over 4 years. I work in maintenance and have a pretty decent pay. The production workers get treated like dirt.

But, stick around a while and you'll see what I'm talking about. The attitude that people like me are too stupid, lazy, too low an IQ, etc. just because we work in a factory, will show it's hand here on FR.

BTW, I find it interesting that you are offended at a comment that was NOT directed at you. Why?

29 posted on 04/29/2012 4:04:38 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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"BTW, I've been blue collar for most of my life."

Same here.

Towards the end of my career, I had a slightly dyslexic supervisor (Chemical Engineer) who would surreptitiously slip me reports to check for spelling and grammar errors.

Apparently those nuns with the yardsticks did a better job than the profs. at Penn State. ;)

30 posted on 04/29/2012 4:55:40 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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