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If not Romney, then .. who?
self ^ | April 30, 2012 | knarf

Posted on 04/30/2012 3:44:52 PM PDT by knarf

..and do we have the numbers and the clout to pull it off?


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To: EternalVigilance
If millions of conservatives will do the same, instead of continuing to follow the Republican false flags, we will be well on the way to putting this free republic back aright.

Yes, but as Keyes article mentioned ...."they're frogs in a pot."..and don't even know it....I didn't either and still have much to learn.

I've always enjoyed our founding fathers quotes but it was not until coming on FR, and truly looking at the documents and what they really say and mean mean for our nation and it's people, I discovered I was pretty much ignorant...and have a long way to go. The more you know the more you realize what you don't know..is true.

Thank you again for the links..much appreciated.

CW

351 posted on 04/30/2012 9:02:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: driftdiver

Ah....Karnak....the all knowing.....Yes, Romney at any cost, and if one disagree’s?????

Your snide attitude about anyone not liking Romney....mature.


352 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:16 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: EternalVigilance
If millions of conservatives will do the same, instead of continuing to follow the Republican false flags, we will be well on the way to putting this free republic back aright.

Yes, but as Keyes article mentioned ...."they're frogs in a pot."..and don't even know it....I didn't either and still have much to learn.

I've always enjoyed our founding fathers quotes but it was not until coming on FR, and truly looking at the documents and what they really say and mean mean for our nation and it's people, I discovered I was pretty much ignorant...and have a long way to go. The more you know the more you realize what you don't know..is true.

Thank you again for the links..much appreciated.

CW

353 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: Antoninus
If our republic is now so fragile that only Mitt Romney can save it from Obama, then guess what--it's already lost.... Stop being afraid.

This just has to be posted again...and thank you for posting that..it's so true.

354 posted on 04/30/2012 9:19:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: Errant

I approve!

I always say I’m hoping a second General Washington would come along, and with that nose and a powdered wig, he could pass! LOL


355 posted on 04/30/2012 9:24:42 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: Errant
In any event, there's a lot that's going on in the world and much that will happen between now and November. May God be with us for we are in a dangerous time. Indeed, may we endeavor to be on God's side through these strange times.

That is the bottom line....and the times are indeed strange to say the least. May God see fit to step into the affairs of men once more.

356 posted on 04/30/2012 9:27:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tennessee Nana

Right you are Nana.


357 posted on 04/30/2012 9:50:58 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Two questions for you, Mr Hoefling. Are you on the Texas ballot, and where are you on abortion and same sex marriages? OK, it was three questions.


358 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:36 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: EternalVigilance

Two questions for you, Mr Hoefling. Are you on the Texas ballot, and where are you on abortion and same sex marriages? OK, it was three questions.


359 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:36 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

Our Texas folks are working on it, but it’s all hands on deck if you want to help.

I’m the only presidential candidate who is a Tier One personhood pro-lifer according to American Right to Life:

http://prolifeprofiles.com/tier1

I’m the author of the Equal Protection for Posterity Resolution:

http://www.equalprotectionforposterity.com/the-equal-protection-for-posterity-resolution.html

If every Christian in America would simply make that resolve and then keep it, the abortion holocaust would end immediately.

I’m also the primary author of the America’s Party Platform, which contains the Resolution as well:

http://www.selfgovernment.us/platform.html

In that document, you will also find the following:

“We seek the passage of a Federal Marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and oppose all attempts everywhere to redefine marriage as being anything but what it has always been: the union of one man and one woman. Since the natural family is the basic God-given institution of our civilization, and the nursery of our future, it must be protected from all who would destroy it.”

That’s where I stand. Fight for life, fight for the natural family, on every front, with all our might.


360 posted on 04/30/2012 10:16:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A vote for a liberal doesn't advance conservatism, no matter how much you lie to yourself about it.)
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To: rightly_dividing

By the way, thanks for asking.

If you have more questions you can ask them of me here, of course, or in person. We have twice-weekly national conference calls that are REAL. No canned softball questions. No filter between you and our candidates, including myself. Politics the way it should be done.

The next call is tomorrow night, actually. Please join us if you’d like.

http://www.americaspartynews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7216&posts=9&start=1


361 posted on 04/30/2012 10:23:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A vote for a liberal doesn't advance conservatism, no matter how much you lie to yourself about it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Threat hell, the dead right purists are openly admitting who they are.

What are they going to do if Obama is reelected due to their not backing the only other candidate with a chance. Say hey, don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for Romney or Obama?

This is realpolitik, the primaries are over and their (nor mine)boy never made the cut, you go with what you have, not some 3rd party candidate who doesn’t even stand a chance making it out of the chute.


362 posted on 04/30/2012 10:37:46 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: Sea Parrot

I can understand the argument.

However, I do not trust Romney and frankly, it is the fault of Romney. His whole career he’s just said what’s needed to be said to get elected. That probably is the most consistent thing I can point to in his life. He has said and done whatever has been necessary, and beyond, to get into office.

If Romney doesn’t get elected the blame lies squarely on him. He’s the one trying to convince people to do so, after all. Don’t blame the people who aren’t convinced they can trust him.

I mean the only argument that might work is he is not Obama. That’s not cutting it with many folks this time around.

I’m holding out for Cheney to say “Enough of this bullsh1t, I have a new heart, let’s kick commie Obama and his czars out of the White House” at the convention.


363 posted on 04/30/2012 11:21:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: knarf

Palin

It’s just me in the voting booth.

100% straight republican ticket


364 posted on 04/30/2012 11:52:30 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: All

In fact, maybe it’s time to change my tagline.


365 posted on 04/30/2012 11:54:33 PM PDT by Kevmo (Palin 2012. It's just me in the voting booth. 100% straight republican ticket.)
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To: Sea Parrot
Threat hell, the dead right purists are openly admitting who they are.

Yeah, right. And the "dead wrong impurists" are openly admitting who they are: the supporters of a socialist pro-choice democrat.

366 posted on 04/30/2012 11:59:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A vote for a liberal doesn't advance conservatism, no matter how much you lie to yourself about it.)
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To: Kevmo
Palin 2012

Palin 2012?

LOL! The President thanks you for your support!

367 posted on 05/01/2012 12:05:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: caww
And Obama is really counting on them.
368 posted on 05/01/2012 3:06:42 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("So the RINOs won with Romney--u gonna root for the Commies now!?!?")
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To: vmivol00

>>It’s ok. I have tin foil surrounding my computer<<
You’re not paying attention, or don’t want to..

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/ConsumerGroupChargesGooglesCloseTiesWithObamaAdministrationReapRewards/2011/01/24/id/383741

>>If you vote for a candidate who supports tax payer funded abortions, and socialized healthcare, etc.....you own it.>>

And what you still don’t get is, ABO.


369 posted on 05/01/2012 4:51:59 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Antoninus

>>Stop being afraid.<<
Stop being blind.

Ronald Reagan said: “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction”
This started under Bush, socializing our country and has accelerated multi-fold under BO. Stop looking at the panem et circenses and open your eyes.

Did you miss where Obama told Putin to be patient until his “next election”?
Did you know that members of the Muslim Brotherhood are working in the administration on national security concerns?
Did you miss that two of our Supreme Court justices are getting up there in years? (ahem to be replace with Wise Latinas?)
How about the ‘Executive orders” skipping congress?
How about the Agencies like the EPA destroying lives?
Or the Justice Department looking away from “Fast and Furious” and the Black Pathers?

Come on.


370 posted on 05/01/2012 4:59:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Errant

Thank you for the well thought civil response. Yes, either way this country is in a bad spot. What you fear about Romney is what I fear about Obama. But I don’t see Dems turning on him. Pelosi, Biden, and company blindly follow that fool. That wont change and they’ll destroy any Dem that does show any resistance.

All that said ... I do fear for our country no matter who gets elected.


371 posted on 05/01/2012 5:01:53 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: netmilsmom

“And what you still don’t get is, ABO.”

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about voting for a candidate with a record of supporting abortion on demand, tax payer funded abortions, restrictive gun control, tyrannical govt. mandates, wealth redistribution in the form of healthcare, etc.

You are avidly supporting that candidate and thus his agenda.

Where does ABO stop...at Hillary? Kennedy, how about Pelosi? I guess when you vacillate on your integrity and principles it probably knows no bounds.

I could easily make the argument based upon record that Hillary is probably to the right of Mittens. Her healthcare was no where near as reaching as Romneycare.

Your ABO argument is petty and silly. If you vote for someone you are voting for their record. You own it. You can spin it, and try to justify it, but the end of the day, you are an enabler.


372 posted on 05/01/2012 5:08:02 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: vmivol00

>>Your ABO argument is petty and silly.<<

Just put your fingers in your ears and say lalalalala.

How well will the Preborn survive under Communism?
Or women under Sharia?

Did you miss where Obama told Putin to be patient until his “next election”?
Did you know that members of the Muslim Brotherhood are working in the administration on national security concerns?
Did you miss that two of our Supreme Court justices are getting up there in years? (ahem to be replace with Wise Latinas?)
How about the ‘Executive orders” skipping congress?
How about the Agencies like the EPA destroying lives?
Or the Justice Department looking away from “Fast and Furious” and the Black Panthers?

I’m called to think. I’m called to “...vote in such a way as to allow the least harm to innocent human life and dignity. We would not be acting immorally therefore if we were to vote for a candidate who is not totally acceptable in order to defeat one who poses an even greater threat to human life and dignity.”

You should too.


373 posted on 05/01/2012 5:27:41 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Raider Sam
And whats the deal with the gay stuff in your post?

Obamney and Robama are both rabidly pro-homo. To vote for either is to condone that sort of thing.

I don't like queers or their agenda. I guess that makes me a bigot. Oh well.

374 posted on 05/01/2012 6:27:23 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Raider Sam
"And whats the deal with the gay stuff in your post? "

It's the kind of stuff to be expected once one goes the Peter Pan route

375 posted on 05/01/2012 6:31:02 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: netmilsmom
I’m called to think. I’m called to “...vote in such a way as to allow the least harm to innocent human life and dignity. We would not be acting immorally therefore if we were to vote for a candidate who is not totally acceptable in order to defeat one who poses an even greater threat to human life and dignity.”


376 posted on 05/01/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by Errant
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To: al_c
Thank you for the well thought civil response.

Back at you.

377 posted on 05/01/2012 6:39:31 AM PDT by Errant
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To: netmilsmom

A-freakin-men


378 posted on 05/01/2012 6:49:14 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Happy Rain

I’m conservative...I do not vote for socialists.


379 posted on 05/01/2012 7:08:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: Errant

So?
So you want to guarantee that we get Pro-Death Supreme Court justices that will continue the rise?

Are you paying attention?


380 posted on 05/01/2012 7:30:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

:-)

I’m amazed that FReepers are in the dark as much as they are.


381 posted on 05/01/2012 7:32:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
Are you paying attention?

Are You?

That chart you easily dismissed is telling me that what we've been doing, picking the lessor of two evils, ain't working.

How many times do we continue doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result?

382 posted on 05/01/2012 7:48:45 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

I’m paying attention to more than you are.

Because I see a bigger picture than Planned Parenthood. I’m out there with the yellow balloons, standing with other Pro-lifers who are on the front line. I see it in a big picture.

You’re seeing a chart. I’m seeing the small strides we HAVE made coming because of conservative judges. Four more years of Obama will kill more Preborn. Perhaps even born. Ever hear of the “Born Alive Act”?


383 posted on 05/01/2012 8:00:41 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Ingtar

Which one is which?


384 posted on 05/01/2012 8:04:33 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Government health officials seem to have the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.)
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To: netmilsmom
Ever hear of the “Born Alive Act”?

If there was no difference between obama and the mitt-wit except for this one fact, it would prove enough for any human to vote to keep the obama thing from leaving a baby to die. Unless of course a person's pretend pride takes precedent.

385 posted on 05/01/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: cynwoody

Better to have 4 more years of a librul followed by a conservative than 8 years of a RINO. The fastest path to a conservative in the office.


386 posted on 05/01/2012 8:18:34 AM PDT by Kevmo (Palin 2012. It's just me in the voting booth. 100% straight republican ticket.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Amen.


387 posted on 05/01/2012 8:21:53 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
Glad to hear you're fired up and working to save the unborn!

So don't let them shove an abortion advocate down your throat.

Have the faith and courage to vote your conscious. If we do, it will save the unborn and our country in the long run.

388 posted on 05/01/2012 8:22:21 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Sirius Lee

No, but writing about it the way you did does raise some eyebrows.


389 posted on 05/01/2012 8:22:32 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Maybe a “protest too much” type of thing.


390 posted on 05/01/2012 8:24:37 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Antoninus

Good on you. I will not fear, and I will vote, but not for Mitt. I am really sick of the cowardly “sky will fall if we don’t vote for Mitt” bunch.


391 posted on 05/01/2012 8:29:08 AM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Errant

LifeNews sees him differently than you do.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/04/19/planned-parenthood-video-attacks-romneys-pro-life-views/

Personally, in the big picture, Obama is a disaster for life.
Please see the big picture.


392 posted on 05/01/2012 8:35:43 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
Please see the big picture.

I do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CUL8I3KZO4&feature=autoplay&list=PLE679517D09F64A71&playnext=3

393 posted on 05/01/2012 8:48:54 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

If you are basing everything on that YouTube, no you aren’t.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/aug/08081209


394 posted on 05/01/2012 8:57:29 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: knarf

I don’t know what to tell folks who still in all sincerity believe there is a functional, representative “Two-Party” system in the USA today.

there IS one, sort of, ...HOWEVER...it is the DC RinoCrat Uni-Party vs Flyover Country. Its advantage is that it is somewhat stealthy. Which is why We the People keep coming up on the short end of the stick.

Cast your votes accordingly.....see my tag line...


395 posted on 05/01/2012 8:58:44 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: netmilsmom
I don't see how you can get any more fairer than to allow the man in his own words, spoken during a calm interview, by a fair minded interviewer who allowed him plenty of time to explain his past and current position.

Did you even watch it???

396 posted on 05/01/2012 9:24:25 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Yes, I watched it. It’s from 2007 and is one man. Unless it’s President Obama, we do not have a dictatorship. He can have ideas and wishes but with a conservative congress and a conservative Supreme Court, that’s all they are.

How well do you think the Pro-Life movement will do with Obama, a conservative congress and a liberal court?

There is a much bigger picture that Romney and if there were ANYONE who could win against Obama, I would be there. MR is my dead last choice, but when I have the Slovaks in my church telling me that they are seeing the same signs in this guy as they saw back home, it has to be anyone who has a chance to beat Obama. The Chaldeans are terrified (being Arab Christian they know they are the first targets). Survival is first. This isn’t Bill Clinton we are talking about.

I’ll tell you what, FReepmail me your address and I will buy you a copy of this..
http://agendadocumentary.com/

They showed it at our church on Sunday. Many Slovaks were in tears. Our pastor and assistant pastor, both of which lived under communism worked to screen it with us.


397 posted on 05/01/2012 10:33:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Graewoulf

Very unfortunately, Jim DeMint said a long time ago he does not want to run.


398 posted on 05/01/2012 10:49:40 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: upchuck

But that doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t run for the “Good of the Country,” if drafted by an open Convention.


399 posted on 05/01/2012 11:12:02 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: netmilsmom
This started under Bush, socializing our country and has accelerated multi-fold under BO. Stop looking at the panem et circenses and open your eyes.

Nonsense. The socializing of our country started, in earnest, under Johnson. Every president since, except Reagan, has accelerated the process. I'm done supporting those who are just more of the same.

Did you miss where Obama told Putin to be patient until his “next election”?

What in Romney's record gives you the ability to trust that he would be different on foreign affairs?

Did you know that members of the Muslim Brotherhood are working in the administration on national security concerns?

What in Romney's record gives you the ability to trust that he wouldn't also allow this?

Did you miss that two of our Supreme Court justices are getting up there in years? (ahem to be replace with Wise Latinas?)

What in Romney's record gives you the ability to trust that he would make conservative appointments?

How about the ‘Executive orders” skipping congress?

What in Romney's record gives you the ability to trust that he would act differently?

How about the Agencies like the EPA destroying lives? Or the Justice Department looking away from “Fast and Furious” and the Black Pathers?

What in Romney's record gives you the ability to trust that he would act differently?

Are you beginning to see the problem? You have chosen to trust a man who has shown himself to be utterly unworthy of trust. You are doing so out of fear and you have a right to do so.

But don't ask me to call your motive anything other than fear.

Those who vote based on fear are no different from medieval serfs who put themselves under the protection of the strongest lord to protect them from more rapacious ones. Is that truly what we have become?
400 posted on 05/01/2012 11:31:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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