Skip to comments.When did the umps start NOT to require the 2nd baseman to touch the bag on a double play?
Posted on 04/30/2012 5:41:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy
I have noticed this for a LONG time, but I have never asked about it, nor have I ever seen it discussed.
I am watching my Mets against Houston, and the Astros have a man on first. Sharp grounder to third, and Wright backhands it and throws to Murphy at second, and Murphy is AT LEAST 1.5 feet off the bag when he catches it, wheels and throws to first; BUT the ump calls the Astro OUT at second.
When did this start??
My Question is WHO CARES?
You are watching people paid millions to play a children’s game very well.
Get a life.
...the “close enough” rule has been around quite sometime
You need to check your glasses, or the ump at 2nd base needs to check his.
Long before there were any Mets. Probably around the time of Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
Been there, did that ... for 14 years.
Your the one who needs to “get a life” sir. Or is it ma’am?
‘bout the time Ty Cobb lacerated a few shins with his filed metal spikes.
I am too polite to say what a newbie loser you are, so I won’t. However, I will say that this does not reflect well on your parents for the way they brought you up.
He has a life and it includes baseball, so don’t rile pharmboy up. And welcome (03/16/12)to FR.
I’m not quite an oldster yet, but I remember watching Willie Randolph putting many runners out by being in the area of 2nd base.
The first time I noticed it, I complained, and my dad said the umps usually call it for the fielder if he makes it look good.
Just before the NBA stopped calling traveling.
This, believe it or not, is known as the “in the vicinity” call—NOT in the rules but invented by major league umpires. What REALLY gets interesting are the handful of times each season when an umpire actually calls the runner SAFE because the fielder didn’t touch the base. Something like the George Brett pine tar imbroglio—ignoring a rule 99% of the time and then, for no apparent reason, enforcing it.
Hmm...y’know, that makes sense. And, as you probably know, it was said that Ty used to sharpen those spikes.
The second baseman has to touch Nancy Pelosi? Ohhhh.....that’s right.......she’s the old bag.
It is only done when the runner is trying to break up a double play by running into the infielder. It is done to prevent injuries.
Supposedly it’s to protect the fielders. It’s been around a long time. Plays at first and third are called much more closely. It’s a bit like offside in hockey. If they called everything, they’d constantly be stopping play.
Get Lost, Go Play In The Street!
20 responses to a question about a children’s game played by adults for millions of dollars in 5 minutes. Tell me who has to get lives again?
Around when Michael Jordan removed the need to actually dribble the ball when going from the top of his key to dunk in the opposing basket.
Or when actually TOUCHING a QB resulted in a flag every time (put ‘em in a dress and be done with it!). Likewise a DB actually defending a pass without getting a pass interference flag.
I can’t comment on hockey, but very few can, since very few watch. Soccer even more so because less so.
And don’t get me started on that abomination to sports, the baseball DH...
Why, hell! The umpire doesn’t even have to call a ball even if it’s totally off the plate. He can call it a strike. But if the runner from third misses the plate by that much, the umpire will call him out.
Baseball is a mysterious, horribly traditional joke.
Head coach wears little boy clothes (what other sport does that?)
Can hit foul balls all day and still have an “at bat.”
Ball doesn’t have to be over the plate any more.
2nd Baseman doesn’t have to touch the bag on a double play.
Players cannot re-enter the game if taken out once.
Pitchers pulled in from the bull pen get 7 or 8 new pitches, even if they’ve pitched out there all night.
Coaches count pitches and usually yank out a starter if he’s anywhere near 100 pitches no matter how well the pitcher’s doing.
Coaches will not put in his best pitcher to close a game.
Even though a batter stands there and watches a pitch go by, he can still step out of the box and spend a lot of time realigning his gloves, hat, and pants, even though he didn’t swing and nothing on him moved.
(add your own)
Do they have “instant replay” like football does? Just asking, as I haven’t watched baseball in many years, since the ‘69 Mets in the WS.
Hey, we got our very own ‘occupy fr’ grump. Haha!
Hey, we got our very own ‘occupy fr’ grump. Haha!
>>20 responses to a question about a childrens game played by adults for millions of dollars in 5 minutes. Tell me who has to get lives again?<<
We all would be very interested in the size, make, model, caliber and sighting of the gun that was placed at your temple to make you post to a chat thread on a subject you seem to not care about and yet are so passionate about.
Sports is fun and a great diversion for many people. If you do not value them, maybe you should stick to things you care less about. OOpps I mean “more” about...
When did it start, you’re axing? You saw it today? Well, it was supposed to start tomorrow May 1, as I understand it. Damn, they started out too early!
Might I also ask about your current mental state as a result of your obviously flawed upbringing??
U may be a conservative...but it doesn't save u from being a pom-pus low life a$$hole....
have a Good Day..
Don’t you ever forget that your signup date determines the level of your intelligence to the self described weisenheimers here!
How about you get some manners. Most new folks try to be a bit more polite to those that have been around for awhile.
a childrens game played by adults for millions of dollars in 5 minutes
I Suck & Life is not fair! boo-hoo!
Have a nice evening. Over and out.
I’ve seen it happen even when there’s no one near sliding into second. I also hate the call where the guy making the play at second or third or wherever goes to turn a double play and drops the ball, but because it was “on the transfer” the guys out. I don’t care if you’re transferring the ball, you’re a freaking Pro don’t drop it! I’m a girl and we played fast pitch softball and there is no proximity to the bag rule or transfer rule. And at least a couple times a year you get an ump that refuses to call the proximity rule so either do it or don’t! I went to HS for an entire week with a huge black eye because we turned a double play the right way! If a girl can handle it, an adult male should be able to!
Watch George Carlin describe the difference between baseball and football. That’s why football rules. Just the number that show up for FB games should show why FB is America’s favorite sport. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0
It started at least 20 years ago
I am paying 40% of my income in taxes and people that can’t seem to get over watching ADULTS play a children’s game for MILLIONS OF DOLLARS expect ME to pay even MORE in taxes to help them build STADIUMS for them to ooh and ahh their baseball warrior heroes....
Now they want us to pay for a football stadium despite the fact that probably once a week a professional football player in this state is charged with some violent felony.
And it is the shortstop who gets the phantom call. The second baseman can’t physically make the same type play
as long as I can remember and I am bummed to realize that’s quite a long time now :(
They started letting them ghost-touch the bag — so long as they’re way ahead of the runner — to avoid major collisions at second. Unwritten rule.
Tyrus Raymond Cobb sliding gently into home. Yep...the Georgia Peach changed the game.
And a ping to thefactor
Best Book “EVER”...should be renamed “How to live your life”.
Hint: our responses have nothing to do with its sign up date.
Too funny...youse gots some smiles outta me...
Then they should have the softball style base for 2nd where there is a zone for the fielder and a zone for the runner
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