Skip to comments.EXCLUSIVE: Apple Has Destroyed 490,000 American Jobs
Posted on 05/04/2012 4:57:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker
After taking heat for shipping jobs to China and contracting to employers with questionable labor conditions, Apple (rather publicly) took credit for creating more than half a million jobs in the U.S.
514,000 to be exact.
That figure included nearly 50,000 employees in its retail network and its corporate headquarters, where products are designed.
But it also included FedEx and UPS employees who deliver its products and employees at Corning who make glass for iPads and iPhones.
So Apple basically counts anyone vaguely associated with the company or its products as a job that Apple created.
But what about the competitors Apple has bumped off in its relentless move to the top?
What about the once-profitable markets, products, and companies it has destroyed? What happened to those jobs?
Business Insider analyzed data on Bloomberg, went through dozens of 10-Ks, and read through layoff announcements to see how Apple's peers have done.
What we found:
Apple has destroyed nearly as many jobs as it helped create, eliminating some 490,570 positions.
Click here to see the jobs that Apple has destroyed
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Circuit City layoffs: 42,974
Federal Government layoffs: 42,105
Kodak layoffs: 28,000
Hewlett Packard layoffs
Motorola layoffs: 16,474
Borders layoffs: 16,600
Sprint layoffs: 14,600
IBM layoffs: 12,500
Musical group layoffs: 12,500
Ericsson layoffs: 10,690
US Postal Service layoffs: 10,615
Barnes & Noble layoffs: 9,000
Blockbuster layoffs: 7,200
CompUSA layoffs: 6,300
Sony layoffs: 6,000
RadioShack layoffs: 6,000
Microsoft layoffs: 5,727
Yahoo! layoffs: 5,780
Xerox layoffs: 5,400
AMD layoffs: 4,460
BestBuy layoffs: 3,400
Tower Records layoffs: 3,000
Trans World Entertainment (Sam Goody, FYE) layoffs: 2,900
Gateway (Acer) layoffs: 2,500
EMI layoffs: 2,000
Lenovo layoffs: 2,000
Adobe layoffs: 1,950
T-Mobile layoffs: 1,900
EMC layoffs: 1,476
Palm layoffs: 1,247
Virgin Megastores layoffs: 1,060
Dell layoffs: 905
AOL layoffs: 800
Cisco layoffs: 500
Warner Music Group layoffs: 300
Hasbro layoffs: 200
IAC (Ask.com) layoffs: 170
Universal Music Group layoffs: 110
And don’t even get me started on Eli Whitney!
Corporate “America” is more about stealing American sovereignty and wealth for the few than enhancing it for the many. When it comes to the multi-national corps I look at them as traitors and thieves who will enrich their top dogs first and screw America second. It has been a 40 year pattern and I care not to hear the reasons. The only reason is greed not country.
I have lost all respect for the so called corporate America because it does not represent either the owner/shareholders or the USA. It represents CEOs and greed.
... and how Apple massacred the suckers who bought a Microsoft Zune, a Kindle Fire, or a Windows phone.
If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.
Nor can the US economy compete against said wage arbitrage.
This time next year, they'll all be laid off.
EPIC MEGA BURN!!!!!
There is no “Corporate America”, only “Corporate Global”
Competition is so evil. Is that the point?
How about blaming high taxes and over regulation?
And how many jobs has the guy who invented the ATM cost?
The US has the highest corporate tax rates on EARTH. We also have over-regulated businesses.
If you blame corporations for the actions of government, you are deluded.
Sigh. We live in a time when any nosepicker can blurt out a brain fart and its held up as critical thinking. It's the attack of the energy wasters.
Well you know what? I don't see anyone picketing over the number of sandwiches Apple employees ate in the last twenty years that could have fed the hungry in Africa, either. I mean think about it - these are some of the welathiest, most coddled employees on the planet. And they couldn't spare a their measly sandwiches to save the lives of women and children in poverty with darker skin than they have who are completely cut off from anyone paying for their birth control?
The new Nokia Lumia 900 (Windows) competes quite well with the iPhone.
Save the Buggy Whip Industry!!!
Henry Ford destroyed the economy!!
Competition is fine but jobs need to be kept here if possible, right?
I think you meant to say the Barnes & Noble Nook. LOL
No matter if we cut all those taxes and regulations, it still comes down to wages.
However, the US has high standards of copyright protections and other factors that compensates for such inefficiency's.
Then lower the taxes and reduce the regulations that have made the US a stupid place to invest. This article is just missing the point, much less being written by an insane person.
US workers are also highly productive, so much so that without government interference and union crap we could easily be making things here instead of China at much higher wages than third world countries.
Hiring foreign engineers is a sensitive topic in South Korea, where the big conglomerates are expected to provide jobs for the country's workers. While unemployment is currently just 3%, the jobless rate for recent college graduates is about 8%.
Yes..agreed! There should actually be zero corp taxes and then we will see jobs flourish once again. Not to mention no income tax! Our founders would NEVER have stood for a tax on paychecks! And these regulators can go jump in a lake now!
That has a nice Marxist ring to it.
I am not accusing you of being a Marxist, but your statement shows just how deeply it has permeated our culture. Corporations have no obligation to "the many" other than to offer them goods and services that they want at a price they're willing to pay.
If they're not doing enough of it to suit you, look to your government as the cause -- not the American citizens who are trying to make the best living they can.
Operative word is: Possible. Right?
Given the miriad of tax, environmental and every other kind of crap American businesses, large businesses, trying to compete in a global marketplace have to deal with, can you blame them?
Hell, Apple wants to repatriate tens of BILLIONS of dollars back to the US. Gubments response: Pay up suckers.
So they keep their money off shore. Sounds to me like they’d like to put some of those dollars to work here, but Zero said no. So what does Apple do? Open a plant in Brazil.
So in 1943 if the Reich Air Ministry (RLM) had offered Boeing a better price for its B-29’s they would have had every right to export them to Germany for the Luftwaffe to use?
Somebody at Business Insider is gonna have to do a really convincing explanation to make me believe this one...
Counting the government and postal service layoffs... Apple saves the taxpayers about 4 billion a year.
You forgot the buggy whip industry.
Ya beat me.
I so love how they feed on their own. The Rats are like a roving band of mad dogs, snarling and fighting, the pack turning on one of its own at any moment.
Typical b.i.-blog crap. I don’t know why FReepers ever cite to this fish-wrap.
Stupid article by an Apple-hating “reporter”. There is some truth to Apple’s claim of creating many secondary jobs. Think of the support staff for Apple products in schools. Then there’s Starbucks - lots of barristas employed because of all the Apple owners flocking there for the wi-fi access and caffiene. My older daughter used to be a barrista and superviser at a Starbucks, she made huge tips from the customers with Apple laptops. She then worked at a publishing firm, all Apples there. Now at a biotech firm, lots of Apples and iPhones - many jobs indirectly created by Apple.
I think you're stretching, don't you? Did they drive Honda sedans? Maybe Honda is a secondary creator of those jobs?
You forgot Timex.
I received my new iPhone 4s just 3 days ago, so I guess I should start feeling ‘iPhone guilt’ right along with my White guilt and my financially solvent guilt and, and, and.......
Call it what you will, there are lots of Apple-logo’d devices in any Starbucks. She would tell me some customers would come in 3 or 4 times a day, and would always tip well. And this was at several different stores in different towns that she worked at on the SF peninsula. Many Apple devices with 3G or 4G cellular get free wi-fi access at Starbucks. So I don’t think it is a stretch to say the customers are there because they have an Apple device; they certainly don’t go there just because they might have a Honda.
Circuit City: What killed CC was getting rid of anyone helpful and replacing them with know-nothing minimum wage people. Then, might as well go to Wal-Mart. It is the high level of customer support that helps Apple stores thrive.
Federal Government: ???
Kodak: Digital camera killed Kodak before the iPhone
Hewlett Packard: I’m sure they were hurt by their drive for marketshare by selling mainly in the low-end where there is little profit. And IIRC they’re still number one in volume.
Motorola: Too bad, so sad, Moto couldn’t deliver on providing Apple fast chips for their computers, or compete on the phone front.
Borders: Apple just got into the book selling business, so no way (or we could count all those Apple-oriented books sold)
Sprint: Sprint passed on the iPhone, their fault.
IBM layoffs: IBM also couldn’t provide fast enough chips for Apple.
Musical group layoffs: iTunes still funnels lots of money back through to the labels. Without iTunes, they’d probably be leaking money even more. However, by making wide distribution available to anyone, Apple is helping to undermine the cartel the labels have had running for the last several decades. This is a good thing.
Ericsson layoffs: Too bad, inferior products.
US Postal Service layoffs: That’s email, not Apple’s fault. And don’t forget all those Apple products bought over the mail.
Barnes & Noble layoffs: Same as Borders, although BN got the right idea later and has started competing in this century.
Blockbuster layoffs: Netflix started this, and then there was Red Box. Apple’s digital video sales and rentals have been nowhere near enough to have caused this.
CompUSA layoffs: See Circuit City.
Sony layoffs: Which department?
RadioShack layoffs: Radio Shack killed itself by becoming just another electronics store.
Microsoft layoffs: Their own fault, definitely. Lack of vision (Zune) and lack of ability (Vista) have given Microsoft a serious hit. On the plus side, the 360 is doing very well despite the billion dollar charge-off to be first with that generation of game system.
Yahoo! layoffs: No relation to Apple
Xerox layoffs: No relation in recent times, only back when Apple was an underdog. Xerox did try to sell their own tech, but priced it too high and failed.
AMD layoffs: AMD could have landed Apple’s switch to Intel, but they couldn’t produce. Apple actually had test Macs running AMD in case they went that way.
BestBuy layoffs: Uh, Best Buy is selling Apple products.
Tower Records layoffs: Okay, Apple did do that.
Trans World Entertainment (Sam Goody, FYE) layoffs: Same as CC
Gateway (Acer) layoffs: Same as HP
EMI layoffs: Same as other labels
Lenovo layoffs: Same as HP
Adobe layoffs: It’s their own fault their products have been sucking lately, and that they bought the toxic Macromedia to get an outdated 90s technology in Flash, another outdated technology in Cold Fusion, and a duplicate product in Freehand. And, don’t forget, Adobe practically owes its existence to a tight relationship with Apple.
T-Mobile layoffs: See Sprint
EMC layoffs: Same as other labels
Palm layoffs: Guilty
Virgin Megastores layoffs: Guilty
Dell layoffs: Same as other OEMs, although Dell didn’t help themselves by fudging profit numbers
AOL layoffs: No relation to Apple, another 90s business model overtaken by events, the company incapable of keeping up
Cisco layoffs: ??? More computers and networked handhelds, more demand for networking products.
Warner Music Group layoffs: Same as the other labels
Hasbro layoffs: ???
IAC (Ask.com) layoffs: No relation
Universal Music Group layoffs: Same as the other labels
However, I am sure Apple has killed quite a few jobs centered around fixing the problems in Windows.
I was kinda thinking it was satire... But then I realized they were dead serious!
Apple is responsible to its shareholders and did a damned fine job for them. It is not Apple’s fault that these companies could not compete.
That's the one they're giving away because it's so screwed up, right?
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