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EXCLUSIVE: Apple Has Destroyed 490,000 American Jobs
Business Insider ^ | May 1, 2012, 12:02 PM | Eric Platt and Ben Duronio

Posted on 05/04/2012 4:57:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker

After taking heat for shipping jobs to China and contracting to employers with questionable labor conditions, Apple (rather publicly) took credit for creating more than half a million jobs in the U.S.

514,000 to be exact. 

That figure included nearly 50,000 employees in its retail network and its corporate headquarters, where products are designed.

But it also included FedEx and UPS employees who deliver its products and employees at Corning who make glass for iPads and iPhones.

So Apple basically counts anyone vaguely associated with the company or its products as a job that Apple created.

But what about the competitors Apple has bumped off in its relentless move to the top? 

What about the once-profitable markets, products, and companies it has destroyed? What happened to those jobs?

Business Insider analyzed data on Bloomberg, went through dozens of 10-Ks, and read through layoff announcements to see how Apple's peers have done.

What we found:

Apple has destroyed nearly as many jobs as it helped create, eliminating some 490,570 positions.

Click here to see the jobs that Apple has destroyed

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: china; corning; fedex; ups
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To: fabian

Then lower the taxes and reduce the regulations that have made the US a stupid place to invest. This article is just missing the point, much less being written by an insane person.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 5:19:23 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Theoria

US workers are also highly productive, so much so that without government interference and union crap we could easily be making things here instead of China at much higher wages than third world countries.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 5:21:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Swordmaker
From an article in today's WSJ on Apple's biggest competitor Samsung:

Hiring foreign engineers is a sensitive topic in South Korea, where the big conglomerates are expected to provide jobs for the country's workers. While unemployment is currently just 3%, the jobless rate for recent college graduates is about 8%.

23 posted on 05/04/2012 5:22:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: GeronL

Yes..agreed! There should actually be zero corp taxes and then we will see jobs flourish once again. Not to mention no income tax! Our founders would NEVER have stood for a tax on paychecks! And these regulators can go jump in a lake now!


24 posted on 05/04/2012 5:25:01 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: GeronL
Henry Ford built his cars in America. An off shored manufacturing job has a 93% chance of having been previously a non-union job. Greed pure and simple. Labor is at most 10% of the retail cost of the average manufactured good. Factor in shipping and all this is about a few pennies on the dollar. Tariffs and also eliminate corp taxes would be the answer.
25 posted on 05/04/2012 5:25:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GeronL
Yes, we are productive, thats why we need less of us.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 5:26:38 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: apoliticalone
Corporate “America” is more about stealing American sovereignty and wealth for the few than enhancing it for the many.

That has a nice Marxist ring to it.

I am not accusing you of being a Marxist, but your statement shows just how deeply it has permeated our culture. Corporations have no obligation to "the many" other than to offer them goods and services that they want at a price they're willing to pay.

If they're not doing enough of it to suit you, look to your government as the cause -- not the American citizens who are trying to make the best living they can.

27 posted on 05/04/2012 5:28:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: fabian

Operative word is: Possible. Right?

Given the miriad of tax, environmental and every other kind of crap American businesses, large businesses, trying to compete in a global marketplace have to deal with, can you blame them?

Hell, Apple wants to repatriate tens of BILLIONS of dollars back to the US. Gubments response: Pay up suckers.

So they keep their money off shore. Sounds to me like they’d like to put some of those dollars to work here, but Zero said no. So what does Apple do? Open a plant in Brazil.


28 posted on 05/04/2012 5:29:03 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: GeronL
I heard that Henry Ford also destroyed the entire Horse Poop Picker Upper Union, which in turn devastated the Work Boot Cleaners Membership and the Boot Polish Manufacturers Association.
29 posted on 05/04/2012 5:31:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: BfloGuy

So in 1943 if the Reich Air Ministry (RLM) had offered Boeing a better price for its B-29’s they would have had every right to export them to Germany for the Luftwaffe to use?


30 posted on 05/04/2012 5:35:31 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Swordmaker
Federal Government layoffs: 42,105

Somebody at Business Insider is gonna have to do a really convincing explanation to make me believe this one...

31 posted on 05/04/2012 5:37:50 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: AFreeBird
Yes, these regulations and liberal policies need to go to hell quick and we need to take up arms if necessary to regain our nation. How dare they strip us of much needed employment through their do gooder policies! It is King George all over again!
32 posted on 05/04/2012 5:39:59 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Swordmaker

Dumb article.


33 posted on 05/04/2012 5:41:34 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Swordmaker

Counting the government and postal service layoffs... Apple saves the taxpayers about 4 billion a year.

#winning


34 posted on 05/04/2012 5:52:34 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Swordmaker

You forgot the buggy whip industry.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 5:54:55 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: GeronL

Ya beat me.


36 posted on 05/04/2012 5:58:06 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Swordmaker

I so love how they feed on their own. The Rats are like a roving band of mad dogs, snarling and fighting, the pack turning on one of its own at any moment.


37 posted on 05/04/2012 6:16:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Swordmaker

Typical b.i.-blog crap. I don’t know why FReepers ever cite to this fish-wrap.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 6:19:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Swordmaker

Stupid article by an Apple-hating “reporter”. There is some truth to Apple’s claim of creating many secondary jobs. Think of the support staff for Apple products in schools. Then there’s Starbucks - lots of barristas employed because of all the Apple owners flocking there for the wi-fi access and caffiene. My older daughter used to be a barrista and superviser at a Starbucks, she made huge tips from the customers with Apple laptops. She then worked at a publishing firm, all Apples there. Now at a biotech firm, lots of Apples and iPhones - many jobs indirectly created by Apple.


39 posted on 05/04/2012 6:20:49 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
My older daughter used to be a barrista and superviser at a Starbucks, she made huge tips from the customers with Apple laptops.

I think you're stretching, don't you? Did they drive Honda sedans? Maybe Honda is a secondary creator of those jobs?

40 posted on 05/04/2012 6:23:40 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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