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US should return stolen land to Indian tribes, says United Nations
Guardian ^ | 4 may 2012 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:27 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366

Does this mean I have a legitimate claim to South Carolina?

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To: Tzar
"Also, Vikings reached the Americas before the siberians. America should return to full Nordic control."

Vikings and Siberians pppsssshhhhh those were invaders THOUSANDS OF YEARS after us Spaniards got here the first time way before then as in PRE-CLOVIS people. When we came BACK in the 1490's we were merely reclaiming what was ours all along.

""Across Atlantic Ice: The Origin of America’s Clovis Culture. The book puts forward a compelling case for people from northern Spain traveling to America by boat, following the edge of a sea ice shelf that connected Europe and America during the last Ice Age, 14,000 to 25,000 years ago.""

http://smithsonianscience.org/2012/03/ice-age-mariners-from-europe-were-the-first-people-to-reach-north-america/

I am 75% Iberian Northern Spaniard all your countries be belonging to us!

51 posted on 05/04/2012 8:00:20 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: DejaJude

How!

I’m 1/32 Creek (Ocmulgee). We got to Oklahoma same time you did, same Trail of Tears. My cousins married Cherokees so their kids are now Cherocreeks.

Just give us the land what ain’t got no oil. Casinos don’t need no oil, nohow.

State of Oklahoma said in 1972 they’d pay me $50.00 for my percentage. Could use that right about now. ‘Course I live in South Carolina, more redneck than redskin, so who do those Catawbas think they are, anyhoo?

Ever meet an Indian who didn’t like his guns?

Ugh!

;^)


52 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:17 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: TexasSecede79366

I have Seminole blood in me, and I think the UN should SHUT UP!


53 posted on 05/04/2012 8:04:31 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: DejaJude

You can not have all of it. My great grandmother was a Cherokee and her kids were offered land in Indian Territory/OK back in the late 1800’s/early 1900’s. We still can not figure out how she ended up in MS. Wonder if we can still claim it. ; )


54 posted on 05/04/2012 8:11:34 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: KC_Lion

I’m from a tribe of Jewish Indians from upstate New York...

...the Schmohawks.


55 posted on 05/04/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

No. I’ll take downtown Missoula and you can split up the rest.


56 posted on 05/04/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Ax
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

No. I’ll take downtown Missoula and you can split up the rest.


57 posted on 05/04/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Doogle
I am shocked that ya'll should take that attitude.

I stole that pitcher,BTW. Wish I had one of the other side.

58 posted on 05/04/2012 8:22:26 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: DejaJude

You gotta take all my kinfolks. DEAL!


59 posted on 05/04/2012 8:22:43 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: aquila48

That sounds close to an anarchist statement? You have to trust someone to believe as you do or we’re lost.


60 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:01 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: Fee

You really need to go back to 1944 and learn history all over again. The Israeli state was never taken from anyone but bought and paid for.


61 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: Shadowstrike
Here! Here! Brother!

This is my last stupid drunk post of the night.

I've been a lurker,more than once banned member of FR since it's beginning.

I sat on the phone to Brian Lamb for three days after Carter forgave all the draft dodgers only to be told I was "Too close to the issue to have an opinion".

Whatever you do keep Free Republic alive. It's one of the last bastions of free speech.

63 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:57 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: Slings and Arrows

They Darker than us! http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachments/movies/61831d1332395489-comedy-director-mel-brooks-melbrooks-indian-blazingsaddles.jpg

64 posted on 05/04/2012 8:25:38 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: TexasSecede79366
as soon as they show a deed to the property....the UN sucks and should be thrown out of the USA and relocate in Zimbabwe
65 posted on 05/04/2012 8:28:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: blitz128
Yo Blitz! Tell us how you really feel. HooRah!
66 posted on 05/04/2012 8:33:23 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Yes give it all back. Then there will be no laws and no POS politicians. Back to Cowboys and Indians! LOL


67 posted on 05/04/2012 8:34:49 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Give me Virginia, then. The family tree traces back through Pocahontas and Powhattan.


68 posted on 05/04/2012 8:36:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The most fearsome words in the English language 'I'm from the Romney campaign and I'm here to help!")
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To: KC_Lion

That’s the chief!

[Mel Brooks FTW!]


69 posted on 05/04/2012 8:37:55 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: blitz128
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70 posted on 05/04/2012 8:40:12 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: DejaJude

My ancestors are from the Crockoshit tribe


71 posted on 05/04/2012 8:44:14 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: TexasSecede79366
Do we have to surrender our corn flakes too?

Indians discovered it

Courtesy regretcard.com
72 posted on 05/04/2012 8:48:34 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: TexasSecede79366
Crap!
I can't remember if I am 1/8th or 1/16 Blackfoot Sioux !
(Damn memory losses)

But I know I have more than 1/32!
I'll claim Florida!
Yeah, I know my direct line of Native American ancestors never lived south of the Mason/Dixon...but since I live here, its just easier for me to to claim Florida for reparations.

Can you square all that with the Florida Cherokees for me?
Because I am sure my tribe would have eventually conquered the Cherokees here, if my white ancestors had not beaten “us” into submission via wars and genocides, a few centuries ago.
Damn melting pot of a free society!
I can never remember who I am supposed to hate most in my ethnic history.

Is it me, myself or I?

73 posted on 05/04/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: terycarl

I’ve been saying the same thing for 25 years now. Glad I’m not the only one.


74 posted on 05/04/2012 8:59:14 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: TexasSecede79366
OK. Which tribe gets what? What's the boundary lines between Creeks and Cherokees? Which is Odawa territory? Saginaw Chippewa? Huron? Apache? Sioux? Cheyenne?
75 posted on 05/04/2012 9:04:33 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Yes, I’ve heard of you Schmohawks. Your bris ceremonies are something to behold. But a world of advise, stop using a tomahawk for the circumcision. If you sneeze, it’s all over.


76 posted on 05/04/2012 9:06:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

I doubt that any part of the Earth worth having hasn’t been stolen or fought over many times. I’ve always liked this poem by Carl Sandberg:

“Get off my land!”
“What for?”
“Because it’s mine.”
“Where did you get it?”
“From my father.”
“Where did he get it?”
“From his father.”
“Where did he get it?”
“He fought for it.”
“Well, I’ll fight you for it.”


77 posted on 05/04/2012 9:07:25 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: sarasmom

Take off your shoes. If any of your toes or foot is “black”, then you are a Blackfoot, or you have gangrene.


78 posted on 05/04/2012 9:09:19 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

When the UN gets all the Muslims out of the Holy Land! Jews were there first!


79 posted on 05/04/2012 9:10:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: wildbill

OK, you can be a Sioux (sort of) like me!

Will you join me in inviting the UN to relocate their headquarter operations to either China, India or Egypt?

Because really, any of those three nations would obviously be the far better location choice for their stated purposes!


80 posted on 05/04/2012 9:19:25 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

First let me clarify. I do not support the UN demand that we return the lands to the Indians after we took it from them over 200 years ago. Problem is when we say that be mindful we supported the right for Jewish refugees to create a homeland after the Romans dispersed them over 2000+ years before 1948. Thus today we say nuts to the UN but OK for Jewish refugees to make the claim against the Arabs living in British controlled Trans Jordan?


81 posted on 05/04/2012 9:20:51 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Jenny217

OK but only if we get our beads and trinkets back.


82 posted on 05/04/2012 9:26:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Longbow1969

Whoa, I envy all of you with Native American connections! My family only goes back to about 1630.


83 posted on 05/04/2012 9:33:13 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: TexasSecede79366

“That sounds close to an anarchist statement?”

No, it applies to any type of society.

There are many ways to defend what is yours. You’re thinking of only your own physical force or smarts.

What do we use to defend what is “ours”? Let’s take our house and its content, for example. How do we defend them?

The first line of defense is installing and using locks and perhaps alarms. That’s to keep “them” out.

If they do manage to get in, then our line of defense is “calling the police”, or if we’re in the house and we have a gun and we live in Texas, you can stop them with a gun.

If they get in and you’re not there and they manage to take stuff and run away, then the line of defense is you calling the police and the pressing charges in the courts of law.

If you are unwilling or unable to take those actions, then the stuff taken by the thief becomes his.

In the case of the American Indians, they didn’t have a strong sense of ownership, at least regarding land. And they did not value it greatly. So when the europeans came they were able to buy large pieces of land for a song. They also took a lot of it through force. The indians may have been willing to defend it, but because of the whites’ superior force they were unable to defend it.

But some indians haven’t given up as we find out from this article. They’re trying to get enough countries in the UN to be on their side and try to use diplomatic “force” on the US to get it back. If they succeed in getting this through the UN (which obviously they can’t since we have veto power), and if we don’t defend that which is now ours, then we will no longer own it.

History books are filled with stories like this. Remember the Alamo?


84 posted on 05/04/2012 9:34:17 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: wildbill

That’s cool. Sanberg’s gotta be right. Let me know how it works out for you.


85 posted on 05/04/2012 9:35:38 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Apropos my last posting....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2880126/posts


86 posted on 05/04/2012 9:38:31 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Yes, I’ve heard of you Schmohawks. Your bris ceremonies are something to behold. But a world of advise, stop using a tomahawk for the circumcision. If you sneeze, it’s all over.

"Rub a little schmaltz on it, it'll be fine."

87 posted on 05/04/2012 9:44:38 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

The UN should give the land back to NYC and move...anywhere except the US.


88 posted on 05/04/2012 9:51:48 PM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: TexasSecede79366

I know the spin, a people without a land and a land without a people. The problem is culture of the Arabs. They do not like non Muslim and Arabs moving into their area, become the dominant group in the area and then by vote declare independence with them as the dominant ruling power. Given Arabs have this problem (last 50+ years have proven it) is it wise to shove European refugees of Jewish faith into the Arab population and not expect fireworks??!!!! If the US supports this aren’t we immersing ourselves into the conflict. If we want to make it up to the Jews, shouldn’t Germany be forced to carve out a piece of land as a European Jewish homeland as reparation for the Holocaust and not the Arabs????
Unlike the Paulbots, I do not advocate abandoning Israel. One does not solve a Holocaust with another Holocaust. Lesson learn is try not to get involve with different groups fighting over land with ownership and legitimacy based on how far one wants to go back in history. Can be a costly and bloody affair.


89 posted on 05/04/2012 9:54:53 PM PDT by Fee
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To: TexasSecede79366

UN should have to pay trillions of dollars to all the women and children raped by UN peace (?) keeping forces over the years.


90 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:24 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Back off, you murderous shoe wearing Apache wannabee!(LOL)

My grandmother never told me why our ancestors were called Blackfoot...I’m guessing it had something to do with why so few survived the genocides and purges.
Too few were left to merit a treaty for our tribe.
It was hinted that they mostly all died, and so few warriors were left to defend those of our tribe, that other tribes offered shelter as a mercy that was a new concept to any of the tribes.

But that could have been a lie, since she married a half breed Cherokee from an Oklahoma reservation as a second husband.

My grandmother moved her children far and away from the reservations.
Looking back,I think she made the right choice.


91 posted on 05/04/2012 9:56:01 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: ArmyTeach

One branch of mine goes back to 1640. Just by being in the US so long would seem that we’d have Native American blood somewhere in our family trees.


92 posted on 05/04/2012 9:57:25 PM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Man that Elizabeth Warren sure has some clout!


93 posted on 05/04/2012 9:57:25 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ArmyTeach

Your family is only a block or so away (1630) from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and the Kenyan/American interloper. Did Obama share dog-BBQ’s with them?

PS. My wife’s family came over in the 1620’s and some of them are still alive, or seem like it. They have the family bible to prove it. 17 fought for the Union in one Penn. Regiment at Gettysburg.Not sure where the Indian connection came in.


94 posted on 05/04/2012 10:02:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Slings and Arrows

If I rub a little schmaltz on it, it will grow prematurely. That would really disrupt the post-bris luncheon.

I know. We Jews are such optimists that when a boy is only a week old, we cut off a little, knowing that it will grow back, and then some.

At a bris we sing, “Let it grow, let it grow, let it grow”.


95 posted on 05/04/2012 10:05:20 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

Oh yeah, steal it, totally screw it up, then give it back to the Indians then bitch about the Casino they build on it and start making millions of dollars.


96 posted on 05/04/2012 10:09:57 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

That’s why we’re the agents - we know how to take 10% off.


97 posted on 05/04/2012 10:10:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: oldtimer
They would not give them old rusted burned out Acatraz, I doubt if they would give them the UN building. You are on the right track though.
98 posted on 05/04/2012 10:13:55 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: TexasSecede79366

What would I be if my grand father was 1/2 Indian?


99 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:06 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: aquila48

One of my FOs was a “ranch security”,then RLI.Then disappeared into SA for the pussy. I’m not buying it for a minute but consider him MIA until I here different. Reb Simmons.


100 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:01 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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