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Vocation or Exploration? Pondering the Purpose of College
New York Times ^ | 5/4/2012 | Alina Tugend

Posted on 05/07/2012 6:55:36 AM PDT by Black_Shark

OUR oldest son is finishing up his junior year in high school, and we’re already overwhelmed by what I’ve been calling the college challenge — trying to figure out what college he can get into and what we can afford.

But there’s also a bigger debate raging that hovers over all our concerns. What exactly is a university education for?

Is it, narrowly, to ensure a good job after graduation? That’s how Rick Scott, the governor of Florida, views it. He has made waves by wanting to shift state financing of public colleges to majors that have the best job prospects. Hello science, technology, engineering and math; goodbye psychology and anthropology.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education
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To: Black_Shark

"There's a time and a place for everything and it's called 'college'."

21 posted on 05/07/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I had a somewhat similar experience except that instead of dropping out of college after 2 years, I had to claw myself out of the GPA hole I had dug for myself. After 2 years of essentially straight A’s, I’m graduating with honors.

The first 2 years of college were fun but I was very immature and only cared about 2 things: 1) Women, 2) Parties.

Talk about coming back to bite me in the butt.

22 posted on 05/07/2012 8:07:40 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: Black_Shark

He is definitely going with a BS. He likes A&M because the econ program is strong on math.

He loves the math but is not into science.

He says that econ is a practical application of math.

He wants to eventually get a masters.

23 posted on 05/07/2012 8:08:44 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

“He says that econ is a practical application of math.”

That’s modern econ in a nutshell. I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that I’m modeling human behavior using math. For some darn reason, humans don’t act the way my model says they should! I must be missing some magic explanatory variable...


24 posted on 05/07/2012 8:12:33 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: BuffaloJack

My son has been thinking about taking a gap year and starting college next year instead of this year.

I have mixed opinions on this.

On the one hand, it will give him time to grow up. He’ll also be able to stay home with us for another year.

On the other hand, it’s been a really difficult year for him, and I think starting fresh in college out of California will be good for him. He is so tired of crazy liberal Californians.

25 posted on 05/07/2012 8:14:14 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Around here, the purpose of college is to sell maroon and gold football jerseys with number 22 on them for $75.

26 posted on 05/07/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Black_Shark
A wise man told me that a college degree won't keep you from getting screwed but at least you'll know why. Sooner or later in corporate America lack of a degree will keep you from moving up and you'll wind up working for someone who doesn't know as much about the job as you do, assuming you learned the job from the bottom up. I went to college straight from high school and couldn't really relate to anything in the real world. I started at the bottom and worked my way up in an experience heavy industry, picking up a masters along the way. Now I don't work as hard but get paid a lot more. The question is what do you want to do the rest of your life, because changing careers can be very costly. Who knows at 18? “I'm 18 and I don't know what I want” Alice Cooper. Has you son worked any during summers? What are his interests? What's the rush going to college? Gotta keep up with the Jones or is this about a long term decision that might take a while to explore. Good Luck to your son, and remember it's his decision.
27 posted on 05/07/2012 8:58:53 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“What is life for? The answer is, to know, love and serve God in this life”

But how is this to be accomplished?

By following His commandments, the first of which is: “Be fruitful and multiply...”

Which brings us back to the question of what’s college for.

28 posted on 05/07/2012 9:14:02 AM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

-—Which brings us back to the question of what’s college for.——

Yup. And binge drinking.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 9:44:51 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: luckystarmom

Why doesn’t he want to go to one of the UCs that admitted him?

They’re tough to get into, and he’s over that hurdle. Every single one of them — not just Berkeley — offers a first-class education for not a lot of money, compared to private colleges like USC.

He can start at one campus; if he doesn’t like it after a year, it’s relatively easy to transfer to another, if he keeps his grades up.

30 posted on 05/07/2012 11:24:55 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Black_Shark

Notice that I said “mostly”, and I’ll stand by it. “Forecasting” and much of what “economists” currently claim to do will be in low demand when the economy implodes.

31 posted on 05/07/2012 11:41:55 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Blue Ink

When he visited the UC campuses they were having protests and selling condoms and had hipsters, hippies, and other types of kids. The housing is also very, very expensive.

At A&M, it was calm and peaceful and the kids were just in T-shirts and shorts. He also liked that there were lots of Ron Paul signs and no Obama signs around campus. The off-campus housing in College Station is absolutely wonderful. Lots of college friendly apartments with pools, work-out rooms, recreation rooms that are cheap compared to California.

He’s tired of being in California. He wants a break.

32 posted on 05/07/2012 1:43:00 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Black_Shark
Surprised no one's linked this yet:

Source @ Every Major's Terrible!
33 posted on 05/07/2012 3:27:20 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: abclily

A practical skill is worth much more today than a college degree. Find a technical school that teaches electronics, welding, computer technology, etc. Let him choose the skill according to his interests. Back him financially until he learns the skill. Then he can earn his own way through college. He will not have a mountain of debt when he gets his degree.

Also, if he decides later to join the military, a certificate from a technical school and an actual work record will give him a definite advantage in job choice, promotions, etc.
Exactly! My gr-son graduated last year from HS. HE chose to attend a technical school and get his certs in welding, instead of attending college, where he had some invites because of great computer graphics work for several years in HS. ....He loves the welding courses and is acing them. He’ll have a marketable trade skill when he finishes and can take certain college courses later if he wants.

34 posted on 05/07/2012 4:53:23 PM PDT by octex
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