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Photographs of East Germany Locations Captured Decades Apart
PETAPIXEL ^ | May 08, 2012 | Michael Zhang

Posted on 05/08/2012 7:38:49 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Photographer Stefan Koppelkamm first photographed East Germany in 1990 after the fall of the Berlin Wall but before the reunification. He revisited the same locations a decade later, and rephotographed them from exactly the same viewpoints to document the drastic social and economic transformations that came about during the time between the photos.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Society
KEYWORDS: berlin; gloriesofcommunism; photo; photography
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Freedom makes an amazing difference.
1 posted on 05/08/2012 7:39:00 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I don’t understand people who can’t see the difference.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 7:42:15 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I was in East Berlin for a few hours or so in 1980. They were still doing reconstruction of bombed sites then, 35 years after the end of WWII. BTW, today is the 67th Anniversary of V-E Day.


3 posted on 05/08/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Comapre and contrast to photos of Detroit from the same years.

Yes, indeed, freedom makes an amazing difference.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/08/2012 7:43:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The “before” pictures look like Detroit. I don’t think there will be any “after” pictures for Detroit.


5 posted on 05/08/2012 7:45:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

6 posted on 05/08/2012 7:45:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Beautiful. Thanks for posting that.


7 posted on 05/08/2012 7:46:51 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I had heard this in the 1980s - the East German government didn’t bother cleaning up the war mess. This is great to see - shove it in the FACE of leftists. They had 45 years to clean it up and didn’t bother.


8 posted on 05/08/2012 7:54:28 PM PDT by BobL
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

As an Army brat, I had an occasion to take a tour into East Berlin (they were allowed then, for some reason ... no pictures allowed) in either 1960 or 1961 (I was 15 at the time) and found the place very depressing and desolate.


9 posted on 05/08/2012 7:57:29 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is what the photos made me think of as well.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 7:58:48 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It’s great, but it’s not completely clear. Text says 1 decade apart, title says plural decades apart


11 posted on 05/08/2012 7:59:22 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Actually, paint makes a big difference when it comes to buildings.

My friend's brother still lived over in the East. When he visited he found the family had a ration ticket of 1 gallon of paint per year. They were saving them up hoping that paint would be once again on the market. I believe they lived in the town where modern paint was invented.

The only excuse for the GDR is that the Russians assigned tasks to them to do (industrially) and they did them, and the people who lived there simply didn't count.

You probably don't know it but even the most modern office buildings for party officials in Russia itself had wooden door lintels and doors. They look pretty enough, some were carved ~ but finding a metal lintel or door was difficult because ALL metal production went first to the Military.

And that meant ALL. One of the reasons older pictures of metal incorporated in Russian, and East-Bloc architecture looks like it's been rehabilitated from somewhere else.

12 posted on 05/08/2012 8:02:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BobL

East Germany looked about the same as it did in 1945.


13 posted on 05/08/2012 8:04:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: PghBaldy
Occasionally folks cordon off segments of the very large area where WWI was fought to pull out more artillery shells and other still live explosives.

Europeans have had a lot of war over the centuries and are well versed in how you deal with it. For the GDR it was just a case of waiting until the foreign occupiers left.

14 posted on 05/08/2012 8:05:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The only thing I have from East Germany that I admire.

The Ernst Thaelman Factory in Suhl did some good work

15 posted on 05/08/2012 8:07:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

communism produces sloth and corruption....as the society crumbles so does the infrastructure.

capitalism (even just a little bit of it) offers freedom and choice and inspires innovation and industriousness


16 posted on 05/08/2012 8:07:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: mylife

The Trabaunt. Just like Obama’s Chevy Volt.


17 posted on 05/08/2012 8:12:24 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It is interesting to note that the Germans have tried to preserve and restore their historic buildings.


18 posted on 05/08/2012 8:12:41 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: PghBaldy
BTW, today is the 67th Anniversary of V-E Day.

I tried celebrating by pulling one of these moves and promptly got the cops called on me. < |:(~

19 posted on 05/08/2012 8:13:21 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: jmacusa

Even Worse!


20 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: martin_fierro

All the people you see in that photograph are dead now.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

From a socialist paradise to a decadent capitalist nightmare in just two decades. /S


22 posted on 05/08/2012 8:17:52 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: Revolting cat!
All the people you see in that photograph are dead now.

Well, good.

'Cuz I wasn't about to kiss no really old people nohow.

23 posted on 05/08/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Freedom makes an amazing difference.”

Oh Yeah! Thanks for the post SWAMPSNIPER.


24 posted on 05/08/2012 8:23:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: BobL
They tried but they didn't have the money and the political system didn't help. Still, East Germany was in far better shape than Poland. Among Warsaw pact countries, East Germany was considered something of a paradise by comparison.

I lived in Warsaw for two years (1981-83)and then moved to West Berlin for four years and traveled to East Berlin often. Big difference.

25 posted on 05/08/2012 8:24:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The Russkies were not kind to the Satellite country’s.


26 posted on 05/08/2012 8:28:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh, that’s a thought.


27 posted on 05/08/2012 8:58:41 PM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That pride of ownership makes a difference. Who is going to waste the effort to maintain community property when they have no stake in the investment?


28 posted on 05/08/2012 9:13:02 PM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Compare and contrast with Detroit over the same time period.


29 posted on 05/08/2012 9:14:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: mylife

Yeah, the rape went on for years after the war, it just took different forms as time went on..


30 posted on 05/08/2012 9:16:37 PM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 05/08/2012 9:22:21 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

If you have not seen this movie, you must rent it. It's in the list of my five favorite movies of all-time.

32 posted on 05/08/2012 9:22:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

it’s the same with all of the former Eastern Bloc including Russia — a centralized economy cannot manage the complexity of an industrialized world. The communists had massive shortages of everything including paint.


33 posted on 05/08/2012 9:23:31 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: kabar

When you consider how Warsaw was in 1945, it’s amazing they were able to rebuild it at all. Today, it looks very modern, except for that monstrosity known as the “Palace of Culture and Science.”


34 posted on 05/08/2012 9:26:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: mylife

Correct. The Soviets occupied them and made them pay the costs of the occupation.


35 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: doc1019

you should see the pictures of Warsaw after the war (the Nazis first destroyed 30% of it in 1939 and then levelled the rest in 1944. The entire city was pure rubble, except the former Jewish ghetto which the Nazis burned to the ground (literally)


36 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:56 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: dfwgator

I liked that movie but THIS ONE, Is AWESOME. Cagney at his best. Funny as hell called one, two , Three.... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055256/


37 posted on 05/08/2012 9:29:01 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: jmacusa

it’s horrifying when you think that they have progressed and we are regressing...


38 posted on 05/08/2012 9:30:41 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Walkingfeather

One, Two, Three was just marvy! ;)

One of the greatest comedic performances ever.

“You’re back in the SS.....small salary!”

So many great lines in that movie.


39 posted on 05/08/2012 9:33:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Walkingfeather

Another fun Cold War era movie based in Berlin, was called “Gotcha!”. Linda Fiorentino was so hot in that movie.


40 posted on 05/08/2012 9:38:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Cronos

It certainly shows what happens when human beings are given the freedom of choice, from what they’d like to think and say down to what food the’d like to eat or not. You can never truly know what freedom means until it is taken away from you.


41 posted on 05/08/2012 9:50:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: mylife

I can’t believe people who thought the other one was better.


42 posted on 05/08/2012 9:52:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dfwgator
The Poles made a concerted effort to rebuild the old city, the "Stare Miasto." One of my American colleagues born in Poland told me that as a school child in Krakow after the war, they would collect money to buy bricks to reconstruct Stare Miasto. This was the case all over Poland.

They had the old plans, but according to the Poles I knew, they could never match the workmanship of the old city. It is still a beautiful place now. Krakow is even better because it did not suffer the damage that Warsaw did.

The last time I was back there was 1999. The differences were striking compared to the days of Martial Law when I was living there. Everthing has changed for the better after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Re the “Palace of Culture and Science.”--the ugly Soviet/Stalinist architecture, layer cake like buildings that were all over Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union:

There was the joke, "What is the best place to get the best view of Warsaw? Answer: "On top of the Palace of Culture and Science because you could not see the Palace of Culture and Science."

43 posted on 05/08/2012 9:59:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GeronL

Yes, think of the black bloc commies who prefer “column A” for some idiotic reason.


44 posted on 05/08/2012 10:48:07 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: jmacusa
It certainly shows what happens when human beings are given the freedom of choice, from what they’d like to think and say down to what food the’d like to eat or not. You can never truly know what freedom means until it is taken away from you.

As the Devo song said, however, some people don't want Freedom of Choice, they want "Freedom From Choice."

45 posted on 05/08/2012 10:51:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: mylife

Is that a Makarov?

I couldn’t hit the side of a barn with the one I have.


46 posted on 05/08/2012 10:52:58 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: dfwgator

“Are we not men’’?


47 posted on 05/08/2012 11:15:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

One of my wife’s cousins grew up in the East - when he graduated from school the kids had only two choices for ‘professions’ that year: Hairdresser or Baker. He refused because he wanted to be a dentist and spent three years in jail at STASI HQ, until he was traded for someone the West had caught. Today, he’s doing well - as a dentist.


48 posted on 05/08/2012 11:21:09 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Revolting cat!
All the people you see in that photograph are dead now.

THAT is what occurs to you to say when you see that photo?

Get help.

49 posted on 05/09/2012 12:09:59 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

My mom isn’t in that photo - but she does tell the story of being with a few girlfriends on VJ day (Dad was in the Pacific), and being a bit scared out on the streets of Alameda(?), California. It was too rowdy for their Midwestern roots - so they celebrated in their shared apartment. She’ll be 94 this summer - with a memory better than mine!


50 posted on 05/09/2012 12:22:10 AM PDT by 21twelve
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