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The case for Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin.
(that new FR journalism MSM s_cks thing ... vanity)

Posted on 05/11/2012 8:53:23 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Have been thinking about the topic of victory...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: palin
"Victory".

Romney.

Yes. That's not entirely random thoughts, joined together.

Already months ahead of even winning the GOP nomination, Mitt Romney has continued to WIN, each contest he has faced.

That long ago made this long-time Palin supporter, somewhat hostile.

Let's remember the year 2008. The Democrat nominee was Obama. The Democrat nominee was McCain.

(sorry, not a typo)

McCain in a single moment of having one brain cell, decided on the astoundingly successful governor of Alaska as his running mate.

That moment, was electrifying.

Palin fascinated the GOP, and inspired us all. We fell in ... SUPPORT.

We had been waiting since Ronald Reagan himself, to hear such simple truth.

We immediately recognized good.

Great even.

Wait, did this start as a Romney thread?...

Remember what happened, when Palin was introduced by John McCain to America?

Actually, two things:

1) Liberals IMMEDIATELY recognized her as an existential threat to everything they say.

Unfortunately also,

2) Mitt Romney even quicker, recognized she would prevent him from becoming president.

Yes. I believe Mitt Romney sabotaged Palin, and cost the GOP the election in 2008.

There, I said it.

My anti-Romney cred established, he seems about to win the nomination.

By being: ruthless.

It's time to admit Romney is a formidable competitor. But it's also still time to stand and fight.

I'm standing to say, Romney, having accomplished what he set out to do, having infuriated so many of us in the process.

Should now do the right thing, and bring Palin on board as his Vice President.

1 posted on 05/11/2012 8:53:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 8:55:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Yes.


3 posted on 05/11/2012 8:57:43 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Maybe


4 posted on 05/11/2012 8:59:50 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How ‘bout “Sheriff Joe” for VEEP?

That would be a Head Turner!


5 posted on 05/11/2012 9:09:50 PM PDT by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How ‘bout “Sheriff Joe” for VEEP?

That would be a Head Turner!


6 posted on 05/11/2012 9:09:59 PM PDT by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Where are these pictures of Obummer and his kids?
7 posted on 05/11/2012 9:10:20 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Where are these pictures of Obummer and his kids?

Sealed or scrubbed...with the rest of his records.

8 posted on 05/11/2012 9:16:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: bigbob

“Maybe” works. I second.

So far recently we’ve heard Marco Rubio (who I like) mentioned, but then in seeming flashback to Bush administration stupidity, continuing to hammer amnesty under another name.

Then (unbelievably) Huckabee. UGH NO.

Today Jindal. At least we’re making progress.

Romney needs to understand a lot of us out here in America understand competition. We recognize that winning, means making someone else lose.

No problem.

But it’s important to shake the hand of the ONE who actually was your competition.

Mr. Romney do the right thing.

Palin would energize even those, who loathe you right now.

Yes. Loathe.

Consider Palin.

There’s a reason, you went after her first.

She’s formidable.

And a whole lot of us out here, support her.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t want to see Sarah Palin associated with an A-Hole like Romney. It was bad enough with McPain.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 9:19:41 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It will never happen.

Palin made it clear numerous times that she’ll never be a running mate again. Frankly, being McCain’s running mate is shameful enough. Do you want to saddle her with Romney’s coat tails too? Sarah is smarter than that even if you’re not.


11 posted on 05/11/2012 9:20:32 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Palin is the one with the least negatives IMO for me. Turn her loose and the MSM, Hollyweird, The Democrats, NAACP, NPR, and Nambla (GLAD) will have seizures.
12 posted on 05/11/2012 9:22:38 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: OrangeHoof

I have never claimed to be smart.

Just riled up. :D


13 posted on 05/11/2012 9:23:02 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

no way. Mitt Romney supporters would be undermining Palin from within like with Mccain camp. Mitt Romney have surrounded himself with too many leftists/establishment types who like the status quo and they all hate Palin more than they hate Obama


14 posted on 05/11/2012 9:24:29 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I was being a smart ass, but I agree with your analysis.

I don’t think she would accept, nor would it be offered, but the potential impact would be similar to 2008, and being “older and wiser” she would only accept if she had a completely free hand to do it her way (which is why I says Mitt would never make the offer). But if he were in deep trouble and losing the conservative base, what better VP candidate to secure it?

Palin might accept if she’d got her aim set on 2016 or 2020, as she’d still be young (mid 50s) enough and having served as VP would be a means to prove herself (although there aren’t many examples of VP stepping into the big chair). So “maybe” isn’t such a bad answer I guess.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 9:25:07 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: rockinqsranch

You summed it up.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 9:26:52 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Good grief.
Why on earth would anybody think Palin would agree to take a second shot at second fiddle?
It's embarrassing.

17 posted on 05/11/2012 9:27:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

LOL that guy rocks! :D

He exemplifies everything funny about FR.

For Palin threads, someone should photoshop him into a Nanook of the North fur-lined hoodie.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 9:32:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I suggest you stand well out of Sarah’s reach when you propose this to her, I don’t want her bruising her knuckles.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 9:36:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Utter horsesh1t.
Gawd, I get so sick and tired of people flogging this dead argument.
Sarah Palin’s done. That was 4 years ago.
Get over it.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 9:39:25 PM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: Navy Patriot

Laughing reading that.

It sure would be nice, to somehow include all this honest engagement, in the 2012 Republican ticket.

How about it, Romney?

You get four years. We all pretend to like you. Seems like a reasonable arrangement.


21 posted on 05/11/2012 9:39:39 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: PizzaDriver

I’d rather see Sheriff Joe as the head of the Border Patrol.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 9:47:22 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The TEA Party is my cup of tea.)
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To: rockinqsranch

With the growing possibilty of hitlery coming onboard as VP appointee botting out biden, it may be mandatory for Romney to partner up with Palin.

Yeah, yeah we don’t like being stuck with Mitt, but he somehow got it, so if faced with the choice of voting Romney or not voting and having to watch nobama gut America, its no option. One positive thing we can not deny, is Romney really really wants POTUS, not at all like mclame who obviously did not.


23 posted on 05/11/2012 10:00:10 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It sure would be nice, to somehow include all this honest engagement,

See,.. that's the problem.

There never has been honest engagement from the RINO ruling elite Republicans. They are actually worse than the Marxist Rats, they stab conservative and responsible Republicans in the back FOR the Rats, and hold 'em down while the Rats screw 'em.

That's why extreme socialism makes steady progress and has almost no setbacks in America. The Marxist Rats couldn't do this all by themselves because they couldn't get all Rats elected all the time.

The Rats need these shills or ringers elected by normal Americans to oppose extreme socialism, to turn traitor to their electorate and add enough traitor votes to get the extreme socialist laws over the hump, passed and signed. RINOs are what gets that done, and there is NOTHING "honest" about that.

24 posted on 05/11/2012 10:17:10 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: All

This is a good start, but drop Romney and move Palin to top of the ticket, then look for a running mate.


25 posted on 05/12/2012 12:05:39 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Give Ron a chance)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

She is the only choice.....as in only


26 posted on 05/12/2012 1:39:17 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
No.

Palin should NOT trash herself with the sinking liberal named Romney.
Let the "Establishment Republicans" fall on their own face!


27 posted on 05/12/2012 1:56:44 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Yes. I believe Mitt Romney sabotaged Palin, and cost the GOP the election in 2008. There, I said it.”

OK, you said it.

Can you substantiate it in any way?

And why on earth would she accept anyway?

She’s very young, she can run for President on her own even 8 years from now. That might even be better since her kids would be that much older then.


28 posted on 05/12/2012 2:21:43 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307
Backstabber Bishop Romney already LED THE ATTACK on Gov. Palin in 2008.

For that attack, WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT ROMNEY. EVER.

FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



29 posted on 05/12/2012 4:07:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It’s about the ONLY way I’d vote R for Ruling classless party!


30 posted on 05/12/2012 4:19:51 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: 4rcane
>:they all hate Palin more than they hate Obama

That's because they work for the DNC II, formerly known as the republican party.

31 posted on 05/12/2012 4:23:58 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks, I’ll delve into your links a little later.


32 posted on 05/12/2012 4:25:53 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
>"McCain in a single moment of having one brain cell, decided on the astoundingly successful governor of Alaska as his running mate."

I disagree. I think he purposefully chose her as the WORST possible candidate.

Boy was he WRONG!

He is a libtard after all.

33 posted on 05/12/2012 4:28:30 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Romney should a man ... and pull out.
Gov. Palin could find a good VP for herself and the country.

"But the details of the event are more than unseemly
- they may, in fact, be illegal.
Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws
specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal
"in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise,
in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner
or in a way and manner which might endanger
the animal carried thereon.

"An officer for the Massachusetts Society
for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded
to a description of the situation saying
"it's definitely something I'd want to check out."
The officer, Nadia Branca, declined to give
a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law
but did note that it's against state law to have a dog
in an open bed of a pick-up truck, and
"if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it,
that would be illegal."

34 posted on 05/12/2012 5:01:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I keep seeing a lot of gyrations to either make Romney palatable, or bury him with the trash.

What I don't see is any sort of really organized movement to remove Obama from the White House he sullies and stains every day he remains in office.

While I don't see a viable option at this time, it would be nice to not see what can be perceived as a milling bunch of cattle as our side flails about. If we can't support someone else 9who is actually in the race), then how about spreading beyond FR's borders and shouting to the hills how bad Obama is and why? How many folks just post here and become FR couch potatoes with little to no hope, vs. those who spend time and energy spreading the truth about Obama? The more voices raised, and the more diverse the forums, the better the chance that some will hear and understand and move to the "get rid of Obama" side of the aisle.

35 posted on 05/12/2012 5:12:25 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb

It is not about Romney being “palatable” or the other.

It is about the fact that Romney was CHOSEN for you
because he negates everything problematical
about the undocumented antiAmerican tyrant IMAM.

Bad governing.
Ineligibility.
RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
Turning into a pretzel regarding RomneyMarriage
Flipflopping in General
TARP
Sharia
Ego off-planet
Thinks he is a ‘god’.
History of covering up fraud
History of appointing hyperliberal judges
History of lying to the base, then mutating

... plus Romney has a few other negatives of his own.


36 posted on 05/12/2012 5:15:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis
It is not about Romney being “palatable” or the other

Maybe I misread - the post was about why Romney should try to get palin on-board as Veep. I can't think of why one would posit that unless it was desperation to make Romney palatable by adding a truly viable person to the mix.

I am pretty sure I won't vote for Romney (reserve the right to see what the next months uncover), but all the carping and Romney bashing doesn't hurt Obama whit. It seems that more effort needs to be directed at the Prime objective - ousting Obama.

37 posted on 05/12/2012 5:42:48 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t know.

Do know that if Romney can’t find himself a Palin somewhere...we all get to enjoy the ‘Bamster for another four....


38 posted on 05/12/2012 5:53:34 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: bigbob
(although there aren’t many examples of VP stepping into the big chair).

Bush I, Gerald Ford, LBJ, Nixon, Truman are five ex-VPs that became President and I could go on.

Being VP is a very good stepping stone to become President, it's not a lock but it's a big help.

39 posted on 05/12/2012 6:01:31 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think Mitt would do just about anything to win…but that. And even in the unlikely event he did that particular right thing and offered her the job, why should she accept? What’s in it for her? There’s only one thing Mitt could offer her that would make it worth her while, and I think he’s even less likely to offer her “next” than he is to offer her VP. And I’m not sure I trust either Mitt or the establishment’s ability to deliver her “next”, let alone their good faith. Honestly, I think those guys need her help more than she needs theirs.


40 posted on 05/12/2012 6:03:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: mkleesma; All

Oh sure, she’s done for, yesterday’s news, she’ll never be a factor again.....oh wait.....OH CRAP!!!!

Signed,

Dick Lugar
Lois Frankel
Vincent Sheheen
Trey Grayson


41 posted on 05/12/2012 6:21:46 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Romney looks down on Sarah Palin and evangelicals. He would never choose to be associated with her, and I’m sure she would feel the same.

And I like it that way.


42 posted on 05/12/2012 7:33:10 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What too many people don’t want to admit is that the national news media and entertainment industry successfully destroyed Sarah Palin in 2008. It was one of the most successful smear campaigns in history. She still has influence among conservatives, but she’d be rejected by the general electorate.


43 posted on 05/12/2012 7:38:21 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: USS Alaska

Few sitting VPs have won election to POTUS; it.is like the sitting POTUS is winning a third term. Washington, Andrew Jackson, and Reagan saw their sitting VPs win Potus. you can trow FDR in the mix, as having won a third term in his own name. Of course you are correct that INHERITANCE of POTUS by VPOTUS is much more common.


44 posted on 05/12/2012 9:50:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I will never vote for Romney for any elected office!

I believe that anyone who sits on their dead ass while CZAR B.O. has been leading a DEMOCRAP coup to overthrow our government, then that candidate has ZERO chance of any support from me!


45 posted on 05/13/2012 5:28:35 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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