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Women taking over/ the downfall of America?
me | 05/12/12 | fabian

Posted on 05/12/2012 8:48:49 AM PDT by fabian

There are some that believe the downfall of our once great and free nation is largely due to the proliferation of women in positions of power which were only religated to men in days of old. These women supposedly are allowing for the all manner of the evil to take place.

My answer to that is, to discuss women's role in the very real and almost complete socialist takeover of our country, minus the man's role in allowing that to happen, is really the real reason we are losing so much of the battle! It is a man's inflated ego once again putting the blame on women's emotions, rather than blaming himself for not being the leader that he was born to be.

Yes, many men are raised with parents who themselves have problems, so they grow up inadequate leaders very often. But there are plenty of those types of men that still do not bail out on their families and leave the women to entirely raise the fragile souls of the children. The numbers of this happening are huge, and with that comes the majority of prison inmates coming from those emotional homes where the father was absent!

How on earth can anyone in their right mind not lay the blame on this huge issue squarely on the man? Yes, women do tend to be more emotional and do vote for liberal candidates more than men. I know that is why the founders did not include them in voting when they set up the nation. However, the men are primarily at fault here for being so cowardly and misusing their women and being so very needy of the women's comfort and ego support. With more bold and moral men, we would have a lot more Sarah Palin types of women who vote rightly!

Men, stop being irritated and blaming the women for our downfall and go to www.copingstrategiescd.com and get a hold of your conscience. Then we will become a free nation once again. And it will happen, with a lot of help from above!


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To: Neidermeyer

Agreed


51 posted on 05/12/2012 9:54:43 AM PDT by Scoutdad
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To: fabian

I have always been impressed with the number of women involved in the secure borders movement.

Their determination and grit that provides the constant burr under the politician’s saddle that slows and sometimes deters the political worms tendency to willingly trade our Nation’s sovereignty away is a constant source of amazement to me.

I’m thankful for their efforts and say God bless them all.


52 posted on 05/12/2012 9:56:01 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: BinaryBoy

Liberals in positions of power is like a twelve pack of beer and a chain saw,what could go wrong.


53 posted on 05/12/2012 9:57:54 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: fabian
Well, if men wouldjust be stronger and have real love, the majority of women will fall in line wit that.

but we have to go to jail with all the single black fathers to do so. Our society has failed and not worth butt bugery for. Wife over knee getting whipped = jail. Sorry, no marriage here. .

54 posted on 05/12/2012 10:01:23 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: fabian; GeronL

My Granny always said “The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world”.

She was correct.

It is not women who are the downfall but the @*^# Libs!

Problem is the lib women have drank the poison cool-aid and that is part of what is destroying America. Part of drinking that cool-aid means that they have forgotten how to “rock the cradle”.


55 posted on 05/12/2012 10:01:56 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: fabian
*Annette Funicello thought Fabian was the most and that's good enough for me;)

*(she was my very favorite Mouseketeer)

56 posted on 05/12/2012 10:02:24 AM PDT by Happy Rain (Apparently the song "Ebony and Ivory" is a political ditty about Barrack Obama and Barney Frank.)
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To: fabian

“Yes, many men are raised with parents who themselves have problems, so they grow up inadequate leaders very often.”

Like wow man that’s pretty heavy stuff.

This is a wtf moment here. So.... many women weren’t raised with parents who themselves have problems, so they didn’t grow up inadequate? omg?? I guess we’re never supposed to question anything, just accept it?? Yeah right!!!


57 posted on 05/12/2012 10:03:24 AM PDT by Mier (Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent!! "Jim Quinn")
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To: Vaduz

Glad you qualified that as liberals. Women as voters, are more damaging than women as bosses I think.

Best bosses I’ve had, have been women.


58 posted on 05/12/2012 10:05:17 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: fabian

The late great America was when moms actually stayed home and raised the family...

Ever since the late 1960s, it’s been downhill for the U.S. in many aspects.


59 posted on 05/12/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: fabian

The most nasty, heated political arguments I have in 2012 are all with men.


60 posted on 05/12/2012 10:11:28 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“Female dominance as such is completely dependent upon men agreeing to allow it, for one, and chemically dependent upon birth control for another.

Take those away, the tacit agreement of men to permit it as well as contaception, and there will be no dominance. It’s largely an illusion of our own making.”

Yes, and this is my main point! It is indeed the man’s weakness that is the issue here.

Of course both men and women have issues that compells them to act in wrong ways for our nation, but men are the natural leaders.


61 posted on 05/12/2012 10:15:51 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: MrPiper

I meant morally stronger and not needy of the women’s body. Decent women love that in their men!


62 posted on 05/12/2012 10:17:59 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

The Fabian Society was not named after one person. It was a large, international front for socialism with links to communism that purposely infiltrated not only Europe, but also the FDR administration and continues to this day through various front groups. You need to know this history so you do not continue to embarrass yourself with comments on FR trying to link positive political ideas to the Fabian name, which is unfortunate. It’s like being named “Lewinsky.”


63 posted on 05/12/2012 10:29:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: fabian

Why do I keep seeing this coping strategies website mentioned in posts?


64 posted on 05/12/2012 10:43:02 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: Albion Wilde

Well, ok. I was only halfway serious. I do know the name is connected to the socialist movement but i do not really care. I care about stopping them!


65 posted on 05/12/2012 10:44:08 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
I meant morally stronger and not needy of the women’s body. Decent women love that in their men!

a marriage counseler told me men get married for two reasons, companionship and sex. Deal with it.

66 posted on 05/12/2012 10:44:27 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MurrietaMadman

Yes indeed. Women who are conservative have a big big influence in helping to turn us around.


67 posted on 05/12/2012 10:45:49 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

I had this discussion with a left wing woman once, just to mess with her head (and it worked....a little too well).

My point was that women shouldn’t have the right to vote because then they wouldn’t have equal power - they’d have TOO MUCH power, vastly more than men. The reason being that there will always be a certain percentage of men who are weak and will allow themselves to be led around by the nose by a woman, even in the most brutal, manly times. We all know this type of men - the quintessential “beta” man, the kind of guy who follows around the girl he fancies for months or even years hoping that, if he does enough things for her or kisses her rear end enough, she’ll eventually like him and maybe he’ll get some, maybe she’ll even marry him.

This weak percentage of men are prone to being influenced by the woman, to caving to her demands, even accepting her reasoning as his own. If she tells him to vote for such-and-such, he votes for such-and-such. Proof of this concept can be found in the fact that women got the vote at all. Given that only men had the vote at the time women’s suffrage was voted on, that means that men put it in place, demonstrating that women had quite the influence on these male voters even when women, themselves, did not have the vote. Now, add to that women having the vote, and you’ll have a huge voting bloc of women and weak men. This voting bloc is the core of the left-wing agenda in this country.

Women invariably prefer security over freedom, and they support this on an emotional level. It is rare that one can have a truly intellectual conversation about politics with a woman, especially a left-wing one, because it always comes down to an emotional state which cannot be reasoned with. For example, if one says that the welfare state is immoral and should be ended, the women say “You just don’t care about the children/the sick/the elderly! etc.” and no amount of logic can dent the belief that you’re just a mean, mean person who hates everybody. And you’re just an oppressive patriarch. And you hate women. And you’re just a sexist racist homophobic right-winger full of hate.

So, given the propensity of women to vote for oppressive nanny states, and given their inordinate influence over the minds of weak men, the only way to prevent the inevitable degradation of one’s society into a totalitarian hellhole is to keep at least a reasonable limit on the political power of women. Returning to a time when only men voted is impossible now, barring a full revolution and rebuilding of our government, so my suggestion would be to focus on the other original aspect of the Constitutional franchise limitation, which was that voters be property owners. We could modify that to where voters must be net taxpayers. This would eliminate all of the welfare leeches, including the single welfare moms.


68 posted on 05/12/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: MrPiper

Well sure. But that needs to evolve into no need at all, and a more strong and great relationship. Afterall, if a man or woman is complete within by God, there no longer is any need, only love.


69 posted on 05/12/2012 10:49:15 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I don’t know if I am a lady or not, but I do have to say ... now that I have been working in a factory for a couple of years I have to wonder “Who raised these kids ...?”

So many unmarried gals having so many babies ... guys having two girlfriends preggers at the same time ... affairs, divorce, abuse, drugs, drunkenness ... guys more committed to sports teams than the mothers of their children ... gals trying to support a family on one $9 an hour income ... guys avoiding child support at all costs ...

These are 20-somethings. What happened to my generation and our parents to raise such weaklings?


70 posted on 05/12/2012 10:52:07 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Neidermeyer
Granting women the right to vote was the largest single move towards green-lighting the fabian socialist agenda in our history.

You betcha. Read an article from the Chicago School of Business which factually shows it happening at the very beginning of passage.

71 posted on 05/12/2012 10:53:26 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: fabian

Women tend to act on emotion rather than fact. They don’t need to be in positions of control. I love them (my mother is one),but they don’t think right in some tense situations


72 posted on 05/12/2012 10:57:19 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Happy Rain

Women can only dominate where upper body strength is irrelevant—that’s a biological fact!

You could have left off the upper body part of that and been correct.


73 posted on 05/12/2012 11:00:27 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Figment

“They don’t need to be in positions of control”...why don’t you tell that to Sarah Palin types and the millions of women small business owners who do an admirable job.

You are falling into the trap of generalizing, when indeed women have bee nforced to have higher position simply out of the need to make a good living often.


74 posted on 05/12/2012 11:06:02 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: dagogo redux

It has always something of a maxim for me that, in any given society, women have only as much power as men allow them to have.

That could be argued in reverse. Women control this world covertly. They have most of the money and all of the most cherished commodity to males. They just leave it up to us to run things


75 posted on 05/12/2012 11:36:49 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yes, women’s emotions get them in trouble. And the men soon follow.

An absolute fact


76 posted on 05/12/2012 11:42:11 AM PDT by Figment
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To: fabian
I think it depends upon the woman. And also, how many. If it's all women in charge, there's something wrong with the men of a society.

The book of Isaiah was written almost 3000 years ago, so it's nothing new.

3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

Sounds a lot like now, as the school systems and CPS try to put children in charge of their parents. And, part of the Strong's Concordance definition of the word "women" in this verse is "adulteress", so we're talking unseemly women. I'm guessing more like the Pelosi/Hillary types, not the Thatcher/Meir types.

77 posted on 05/12/2012 11:43:21 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh I agree with you on the woman boss...I’ve got one who is late 30s...gorgeous and works at staying that way...super smart, hard working, fun, nice. She gets an A++++ from me and I’ve been a boss myself most of my life. Her people skills are a standout.

But I should say that this is the tax accounting dept of a Fortune 500 company. Another industry could be another matter entirely.


78 posted on 05/12/2012 11:43:45 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Figment
They just leave it up to us to think [we] run things.

You missed a word.

79 posted on 05/12/2012 11:45:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Figment
Women tend to act on emotion rather than fact. They don’t need to be in positions of control. I love them (my mother is one),but they don’t think right in some tense situations

That's ridiculous. You know the wrong women.

80 posted on 05/12/2012 11:46:42 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: FlyVet

Yes, it is the men that are the problem really. If they were were just halfway strong with the ladies then we would be much more in God’s order of happiness. The women are filling a very real void and any discussion of or blaming of women without including this is indeed misogynistic and hurting the conservative cause.


81 posted on 05/12/2012 12:32:07 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Aria
"Women tend to act on emotion rather than fact. They don’t need to be in positions of control. I love them (my mother is one),but they don’t think right in some tense situations"

That's ridiculous. You know the wrong women.

It is ridiculous. But you aren't acknowledging the number of wrong women around today, or the social constructs designed solely to make as many wrong women as possible.

Women have been taught to hate womenhood in the name of being a strong woman, and define the self-crushing of their femininity, hatred of men, and absolute codependence upon Leftist-led female obedience groups as the achievement of female liberation.

The fundamental insanity of this has made them fundamentally insane - by the tens of millions.

82 posted on 05/12/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: fabian

Women are the fault-—hate to agree-—it is the radical Feminists along with the radical homosexuals who have forced God out of the country and allowed Marxist/Communist/”progressives’ to mold the minds of the useful idiots in the government schools.

This Cultural Marxism evolution of thinking could never have happened if women wouldn’t have allowed the state to control the worldview of their young children-—Didn’t happen prior to the 60’s.

Of course, men created the unconstitutional laws which helped force women away from young children and the welfare mentality to destroy family unity, and allowed evil Marxists to write all the curricula with their sick biases (Zinn, Ruggs, Counts) to warp the reality and twist history to make lies, facts.

But mammals in the animal world—non rational ones-—would never allow strangers to even get near their young. They would kill anyone trying to remove them from their young. Women used to understand that rational thinking shouldn’t be “molded” by any godless people who didn’t give a damn about how your child would grow up. Only family members were in charge of young children until age 7 or 8—and some like Lincoln went to school his entire life for only a month or so.

The Prussian system was set up to “socialize” the children into group think—mass conformity-—to make useful idiots. JS Mill stated, and he was correct—that government schools are only to make slaves for the state.


83 posted on 05/12/2012 1:39:44 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Good post (in a thread full of bad ones).

One of the reasons that The West is in decline, while Islam is ascendant, is that The West has become “feminized”, whereas Islam has not.

And if this trend is not reversed...?


84 posted on 05/12/2012 1:49:05 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: savagesusie
Yes, you are correct about the public school system. But it is the men who are the natural leaders and who can have great power over the leftist women, if they just did not need the woman's body and ego comfort so much!
85 posted on 05/12/2012 3:00:26 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Bob J

bump!


86 posted on 05/12/2012 4:29:46 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
if they just did not need the woman's body and ego comfort so much!

I haven't seen this. I've seen little boys who want another momma to match their socks for them, and I've seen guys who want to be around other guys.

There are some decent men out there--there must be--but with so many moral weaklings among them, the last thing I am going to abandon is my rationality. And yes, I look quite feminine.
87 posted on 05/12/2012 4:35:10 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

Yes, well what you mentioned is indeed needing the comfort of a woman. If she is making decisions for a man, it is like having another mom and not a girlfriend or wife. I know that creates a horrible resentment in many women.
You sound very logical. Single? : )


88 posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:46 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: coop71

So people don’t throw their PCs through their flatscreen TVs?


89 posted on 05/12/2012 5:02:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah c<meth. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Happy Rain
Having the biological sciences on my side makes me a bit overconfident I’m not really sorry to say.

I understand - In a military class, why women should/shouldn't be in combat came up. I torqued some jaws with the survival of the race deal - few women and any number of men = few babies/many women and any number of men = lots of babies and repopagation of the race.

90 posted on 05/13/2012 4:25:37 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: fabian
Afterall, if a man or woman is complete within by God, there no longer is any need, only love.

Umm no. Sexual intimacy strengthens marriage even in old age. Conservative and religious women absolutely love sex and want more in their marriage. One reason why there is so much divorce...lack of intimacy in marriage. Much of it by men who stopped getting physical with their wives and ignore them.

Every survey of women of all ages is they want more passion and intimacy in their marriage.

You tell prospective women about your views and they will run like the wind...and that is why I suspect you are still single at age 50.

91 posted on 05/13/2012 2:24:37 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: trailhkr1

Well, any really conservative woman loves a man that lets go of his own pleasures for more of the spiritual love. One displaces the other if we are moving towards God. That is just a fact.


92 posted on 05/13/2012 3:25:51 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
Well, any really conservative woman loves a man that lets go of his own pleasures for more of the spiritual love. One displaces the other if we are moving towards God. That is just a fact.

You are missing the point. Woman want the sex as much as the men. You can be conservative and religious and love sex as a matter of fact conservative/religious men and women have the highest amount of sex and satisfaction from sex of all classes of people. God wants people to have satisfying sex lives at all ages. Couples are still having sex in their 60's/70's and 80's on a regular basis.

No wonder you are still unmarried at age 50. SRS any woman that reads what you are typing and they are going to run like the wind. Where you get this crap that woman don't want sex is beyond me....something in your past damaged or skewered your views or have some wacky cult message.

93 posted on 05/13/2012 3:37:05 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: fabian

1. Let’s talk about black voting patterns - 90% Democrat. Women are far more fragmented by factors such as religion, income, marital status, etc.

2. Let’s talk about what elimination of females is doing to China.


94 posted on 05/14/2012 8:21:38 AM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Yes indeed. I believe it is pure misogyny to blame the downfall of America on women..liberal or not!


95 posted on 05/14/2012 8:35:13 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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