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Ernst Haeckel's German Social Darwinism and Environmental Holism is the Root of Fascism
The Global Warming Policy Foundation ^ | William Kay

Posted on 05/14/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman

Professor Gasman’s Haeckel’s Monism and the Birth of Fascist Ideology provides insights into the coherent fascist intellectual doctrine that, by 1920, was embraced by a wide swath of European academics and artists ...

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1 posted on 05/14/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

From the people who brought us Hitler....


2 posted on 05/14/2012 8:48:29 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Monism is remarkably similar to the present-day greenie movement. However, it differs markedly in one respect. Monism wanted to encourage the countryside vs city life, whereas our current eco-fascists want to move everybody into cities.


3 posted on 05/14/2012 8:59:34 AM PDT by expat2
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To: vanilla swirl

And Engels, and Marx!


4 posted on 05/14/2012 9:14:33 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: expat2

The environmental elites will live in the countryside and make the rest of us non-fortunate people live in the city ghettoes. They have not given up on this idea. They just want to get everyday people out of the country and pack them into the cities. This is called Smart growth today.


5 posted on 05/14/2012 9:44:37 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: US Navy Vet

Many conservatives have wrongfully labeled environmentalism a form of Marxism. It is not. Environmentalism is a form of Fascism. Marxism always emphasized humanism, social progress and industry. When Marxists become green, they are giving up their Marxist ideals for Fascism, and are following the path of Germany 1900-1933.


6 posted on 05/14/2012 9:47:39 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Agenda 21!


7 posted on 05/14/2012 11:17:49 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Gasman’s thesis is that fascism was a coherent intellectual doctrine advocating a scientist-led social transformation.

Lost me, to some extent, in the first sentence.

Fascism was never particularly coherent. Its distinguishing characteristic was in fact its incoherence, by which it managed to be in favor of two or more mutually contradictory themes at the same time.

This is, of course, true of all political movements, but the Fascists brought it to a peak that will probably never be exceeded.

8 posted on 05/14/2012 11:43:42 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Gasman’s thesis is that fascism was a coherent intellectual doctrine advocating a scientist-led social transformation.

Lost me, to some extent, in the first sentence.

Fascism was never particularly coherent. Its distinguishing characteristic was in fact its incoherence, by which it managed to be in favor of two or more mutually contradictory themes at the same time.

This is, of course, true of all political movements, but the Fascists brought it to a peak that will probably never be exceeded.

9 posted on 05/14/2012 11:59:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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You bring up an excellent point, but fascism was a strange admixture of the naturalistic sciences based on Haeckel’s interpretation of Darwin with environmental romanticism or holism. It was thus an amalgamation of positivism with reactionary romanticism. Haeckel was very sensitive to the charge of being a romantic, so he forcefully undergirded his Social Darwinism with more ‘science.’ His ‘scientific’ emphasis hid his romanticism, and much could be said of the fascism in general, especially of Nazism. So it is not exactly true that the the fascists were incoherent. Some have rightly labeled the Nazis a form of “Reactionary Modernism.” Others have pointed out that the fascists used rational means to come up with irrational goals.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 12:17:37 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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Also good points, but in general I disagree. Your comments may be more or less accurate for the Nazis, but they were only of and not the most typical variety of fascist. You can even claim, as some have, that the Nazis weren’t fascists at all.

Any “movement” that includes Franco, Peron, Mussolini, Horthy, Salazar, Antonescu, Chiang, Laval and Metaxas, among others, is pretty darn incoherent.

Fascism was, IMO, more an “anti” than a “pro” movement. It was driven by opposition to leftist movements and liberal (in the original sense) capitalism more than by any adherence to a doctrine or ideology. As the particulars of the leftist movements varied by locale, so did the opposition.

Marxism is also pretty variable, but it at least had the canon of the works of Marx and Engels, whereas fascism had nothing similar.


11 posted on 05/14/2012 12:58:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Gasman’s entire argument is precisely that Ernst Haeckel IS that father of Fascism that corresponds to Marx/Engels being the father of Marxism/Socialism. I am fully aware of the problems behind fascist ‘ideology’ and I appreciate your astuteness on this issue which so many fail to appreciate, but you may want to pick up Gasman’s book and read it. It will be worth your time and trouble to read.


12 posted on 05/14/2012 1:22:47 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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I'll give some thought to reading the book, but it looks a little too heavy for me in the philosophy department.

Liberal Fascism is about as deep into that particular patch of weeds as I care to go.

13 posted on 05/14/2012 1:25:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I do not blame you at all!!


14 posted on 05/14/2012 2:40:13 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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