Skip to comments.(vanity) MSNBC guest just compared disco/Donna Summer to gay marriage
Posted on 05/17/2012 10:21:14 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
To brighten up your day, a guest on MSNBC just said (indirect quote) "I have never seen a movement in America to quiet a musical genre as the anti-disco fever which was a slap to Donna Summer. It is similar to today's marriage equality: get back in the closet."
He said this while an image of Donna Summer was on the screen. Liberals have absolutely no shame.
didn't see ANY hippies or hip-wannabees. Disco gen rejected the hippie gen, which was lamented in liberal college papers at the time.
not martinis >> but screwdrivers, Sinapore Slings, pina coladas, gin&tonics, Sloe Gin Fizzes, & Daquiries.
yes the punk/crak bands killed disco WITH the help of Urban Cowboy . Jeans came back with a vengence and the forever disappearance of under $20 jeans became the norm.
“Disco gen rejected the hippie gen, which was lamented in liberal college papers at the time.”
Yay! This is something never brought up, and I thank you.
It’s 1 of the big problems with putting all those people under “Baby Boomer” umbrella - they were totally different.
I hate hippies and the ‘60s culture (which to this day they still can’t stop patting themselves on the back). Personally I see the ‘60s as the real fashion disasters, not to mention disaster in just about everything else. And I DO mean everything.
“Disco reintroduced dancing & clubbing to the dating scene. It also rejected the scuzzy & dirty, and too much hair dress look of the previous generation to a more dressy look.”
You are like a prophet. Saying things that are never said even in private discussions.
Heavens that people should have to look good and make an effort at real dancing (not that they HAD to). Polyester may’ve been a generally poor choice, but the principle of looking nice, not like a damned loser commie hippie, would’ve come through no matter what the material.
“It restyled dirty-uncombed-hair to something more acceptable. In tern- this led to the zenith of hair styles we saw in the 80s!!”
Amen! People looked good. Then we went ‘80s and it was TOTALLY AWESOME!!!
Or in the ‘60s.
Or in “rock & roll”.
My opposition to disco then as it is now is not a backlash against black or gay music performers, it is backlash against a vapid superficial cocaine fueled pop music field. The music plain sucks and the egoists who loved the era tell you of the wild drug fueled exclusive swinger parties at Studio 54. It wasn’t about the music, it was about living to excess.
The same is true of today’s hip-hop “stars” with their bogus “street cred” bios and massive ego driven music about anyone giving a cr@p when they walk in “da club”.
James Brown was far cooler than disco and you could dance to it. Same is true of gay-hispanic ? Mark and his brothers in the Mysterians.
“Rockers certainly thought so, but they forgot themselves. Rock and roll was originally dance music, and never lost that essence, no in its least danceable offshoots. You didnt see very many people dancing to, say, Black Sabbath or The Ramones....
“Thats what rock is made for, is what Im saying, even when it isnt readily apparent.”
Absolutely. Real rock & roll was killed by the Beatles (hippie version, at least) and the like (any coincidence they’re British and not American?). It became less and less about dancing and having fun and more about “being cool” i.e., being current. The original ‘50s makes were largely conservative types, including DRESSING WELL, but the San Francisco hippie-drippy scene took over and it became rampantly liberal. Including looking like $#@%# and inhibitions about being fun - no dancing, just sitting around and “listening”. “Cool” started to mean absolutely no action that could make you seem like a fool. No fun.
“Disco had limited appeal and for whatever reason, call it popular delusion and the madness of crowds, outgrew its natural fanbase.”
I find that hard to believe. People must all be real fools, then, because Disco was “popular” or it wouldn’t have been on the charts so much.
Meanwhile, “rock” i.e. heavy metal and all that noisy twangy stuff, is/was really mostly underground fringe stuff. Lots of people talk about it and how they love it, but truth - didn’t make the Top 40 that much. That includes the ‘80s. (BTW, who the hell are the Ramones? It keeps coming up on the Internet but I have no clue what the hell they ever did that ever got played. Fringe. Overstated. That and “the Smiths”. Internet legends.)
Incidentally, I grew up under a metalhead (boy) and a disco queen (yes, a girl), only a year apart. Very different characters and behaviors to go with their favorite music. Of course, under the surface some of it was all the same!
"We are the Mods...We are the Mods...We are We are We are the Mods..."
Not everyone was at Studio54. There were disco clubs everywhere, 3000 mi away. Most of them were not quite like the epitome. Not much different from any average “club” today.
As if all the other “rock” music wasn’t filled with “excess”, especially in drugs and alcohol.
I also have no idea how anyone can make anything but a superficial comparison between hip-hop/rap and disco. Night and day.
Corporate Rock and Corporate Disco and Corporate Fern Bar music ALL sucked in the 1970s.
There was an underground that had the fun and simplicity of the rock AND roll that came before it.
It's long vanished from the airwaves but it still exists to this day. Meanwhile the media giants continue to dictate to the masses what is "popular" and push the celebrity lifestyle of a musician over any talent.
The same suits that pushed this pap wanted to market poster idols named Bobby over the Beatles in the early 1960s as well.
The same media empire that tells me my politics are not mainstream and insult my intelligence and views in movies and television daily prop up this sort of music as "the best".
The ultimate insult (since people DO recognize that rock and roll and disco are different beasts) was enshrining disco acts in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Whatever. It doesn't matter on the sense of scale of global events, but it is still an insult to the rock acts that are still kept out of induction.
“Its 1 of the big problems with putting all those people under ‘Baby Boomer’ umbrella - they were totally different.”
Yes, the MSM, historians, etc. like when discussing generations to treat whole, big 20 year chunks of babies as the same, forgetting that people are born all the time, and not during discreet units of time. I can sympathize, in that there are shared experiences based on age and too much information swirling around not to cut corners when dreaming up theories. But such block divisions are arbitrary and often unuseful.
Take me, for instance. My parents were Baby Boomers, no doubt, having been born in ‘47 and ‘51, respectively, and living through rock ‘n’ roll, the moon landing, Vietnam, etc., which by definition makes me a Gen-X-er. In addition to frustration at the laziness of recent generation naming—letters, seriously? What happens when you get to Z?—they, or my dad at least, had me and my siblings rather late. So I barely remember the Berlin Wall coming down or Grunge rock ruling the airwaves, and have little to no nostalgia for most 80s music, movies, or tv before ‘87 at the earliest, except stuff like Thriller or Star Wars which remained popular for decades.
Just saying, there’s always more to generations than they let on. Very seldom will anyone bother to mention that the flower children who supposedly ended the war, brought racial harmony, and opened minds to the Age of Aquarius are around the same age, or perhaps were the very same people, who snorted coke in polyester next to lava lamps with Donna Summer records blaring.
Don’t get me wrong, BTW - I like the Beatles in original form. They quickly developed the hippie stance and frankly, I think mostly their hippie so-called “great” music sounds goofy, goonie and “gay”. I really don’t care how “innovative” something is that all the critics like. If it moves me is all I care about, music or movies.
Disco instrumentals were also piped in as the background music of many prime time shows.
Even the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd dabbled with disco riffs to remain "relevant".
Even the late great Link Wray dabbled with something that sounded like a drum-syth in the 1980s.
So many bad music trends that musicians are thankfully retreating from these days.
The travesty was taking classic songs, and making disco versions of them...UGGGH!
Still drug fueled and marketed to gay men. Techno/Disco, what's the difference except where they are taking X or coke?
The hippies were too old to really be the backbone of the disco movement. They were different people. I distinctly remember hippies condescending to disco types and calling THEM the “Me Generation” (no, it wasn’t Gen X that got that pseudonym 1st) and giving themselves airs that they were the best generation ever, over their forebears AND their successors.
All I can say is thank God we were the children of “Silent” people who still had expectations of duty and class. Unlike the hippie shirkers of the ‘60s who screwed up everything.
KISS started out glam anyway.
“Beth” certainly wasn’t rock and roll.
There were coke spooned “Disco Stu-s” in every city even if they weren’t NYC or velvet roping Jager, Bowie, Warhol, and designers.
It was the “ME generation” engaging in self-indulgence.
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