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Officer Shoots and Kills Dog
WSVN ^ | 05/16/12

Posted on 05/19/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Police are investigating after an officer was forced to shoot and kill a dog.

The incident occurred in the area of 670 NW 128 Court, at around 6 p.m. Tuesday.

The owners of the Dutch Shepherd named Bosha were not home at the time, and the dog somehow found its way out of the home. A neighbor spotted the dog underneath his car and became concerned and called police.

Police then arrived on the scene and shot and killed the dog.

Bosha's owner, Odalys Gonzalez, came home to find her dog dead. "The officer went after the dog, OK, and that's when obviously the dog went again after him, and this time he shot the dog. The officer doesn't have any injuries," said Gonzalez.

As of now, Miami-Dade Police can only confirm that an officer did shoot and kill the dog and are investigating.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dogs; donutwatch
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1 posted on 05/19/2012 3:15:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

City Editor to cub reporter:

“Kid, everybody’s got a cop-shoots-dog story. Come to me when you get a dog-shoots-cop story.”


2 posted on 05/19/2012 3:19:51 PM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: nickcarraway

Why are we listing, on FR, every time a cop shoots a dog?

How about discussing these items on the state page where caring locals can do something about bad cops?

We have enough trouble with federal-out-of-control-dictators.


3 posted on 05/19/2012 3:20:05 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: nickcarraway

Why would you call the police because a dog was under your car, presumably resting in the shade?


4 posted on 05/19/2012 3:20:14 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway

The officer can transfer to Austin TX.....


5 posted on 05/19/2012 3:26:50 PM PDT by traumer
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To: donna

Bad cops and out of control dictators sort of run together, don’t they?


6 posted on 05/19/2012 3:27:41 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: nickcarraway
Police are investigating after an officer was forced to shoot and kill a dog.

Jumping to a conclusion right in the first sentence.

Meanwhile, opinions on George Zimmerman remain divided, even though witnesses, police, forensics reports, and 911 tapes all supply evidence that Zimmerman engaged in self defense. But no news story is going to lead off with "George Zimmerman was forced to shoot and kill Trayvon Martin."

7 posted on 05/19/2012 3:30:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

8 posted on 05/19/2012 3:31:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Quickgun

No, bad cops are for locals to control.


9 posted on 05/19/2012 3:38:05 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna
No, bad cops are for locals to control.

Bad cops are also a federal matter. Two reasons immediately come to mind.

1. 18 USC § 242 - DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW

2. Federal grants. For example...

Grants are big business for local police. El Paso's department collects $15,670,354 from various federal and state sources.

http://thenewspaper.com/news/37/3789.asp

10 posted on 05/19/2012 3:48:44 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: nickcarraway

“The officer doesn’t have any injuries.”

Hopefully he will have some very serious injuries very soon..


11 posted on 05/19/2012 3:51:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: nickcarraway

People need to change their attitude about the purpose of police, from being friendly, generic problem solvers, to what they really are, which is, in effect, paramilitary forces.

The purpose of paramilitaries is a civilian version of what soldiers do. As Rush Limbaugh says about armed forces, “(They are) designed to kill people and break things.”

In America, all capable adult citizens are recognized as being potential law enforcers, as needed and willing. So what do we need police for?

They are hired to brawl with offenders we don’t want to. They are societies’ muscle to force compliance with the law. And not a bit of that properly involves doing petty problem solving.

So you only call police when you have a serious problem needing a serious solution. To do otherwise is to invite around people whose job it is to kill, arrest, break, brawl, subdue, control, and threaten.

They can be professional and polite about it, or at least they should be, but this is their purpose. Do not invite them around unless you need them.

This woman saw a dog under her car, so she called the police. Unless that dog is a threat or menace, she should not have done this.


12 posted on 05/19/2012 4:13:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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13 posted on 05/19/2012 4:13:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: nickcarraway

Since my basic atitude toward dogs is to admire them, my inclination in such a situation would be to try to entice the dog with soft words and an outstretched hand (exercising due caution, of course) and a bit of food. Killing the dog would be my absolutely last resort. But, what do I know?? Perhaps police officers don’t have time to try such a tactic.


14 posted on 05/19/2012 4:19:03 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: nickcarraway

Note that the conclusion is in the reporting: “Police are investigating after an officer was forced to shoot and kill a dog.”

Forced?


15 posted on 05/19/2012 4:39:46 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: donna

Well, Donna, some of us are interested in these reports. Why not just go on by the threads and let us be?


16 posted on 05/19/2012 4:41:06 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Ken H

Only if you’re a big government RINO and think states rights don’t matter.


17 posted on 05/19/2012 5:14:56 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: OldPossum

People have enough animal abuse to handle in their own neighborhoods. Taking on the burden of the entire nation of animal abuse is discouraging. It is a burden too hard to take on.

You can’t continually depress the spirits of good people with stories of hopelessness - unless your goal is the defeat of these good people.

Report some positive action taken to solve such problems. That would be productive and uplifting.


18 posted on 05/19/2012 5:27:53 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna
Only if you’re a big government RINO and think states rights don’t matter.

It has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment or the Commerce Clause. Malfeasance by state actors is very much the business of the federal government under the 14th Amendment.

It's the New Deal Commerce Clause that has expanded federal control into areas that are not constitutional, such as education, health care and the drug war. You are against fedgov involvement in those state issues, right?

19 posted on 05/19/2012 5:30:39 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: donna; nickcarraway

I also want to read these articles and threads and could care less where they happen geogragraphically. That sounds like a bad excuse on your part.

What you are basically doing is trying to shut up posters like nickcarraway. Most of us Freepers believe in free speech, even if it offends law enforcement.


20 posted on 05/19/2012 6:04:46 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing
Oh, I know you won't shut up.

I'm just saying, these posts spread negativity and defeatism.

21 posted on 05/19/2012 6:40:20 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Ken H

Like I said, you like big government.

That’s just the most anti-conservative part of these damaging posts. You think Eric Holder should “save the dogs”!


22 posted on 05/19/2012 6:43:59 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: OldPossum

Exactly.


23 posted on 05/19/2012 6:51:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: donna

No they confirm certain similar behaviors going on across America.


24 posted on 05/19/2012 6:52:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: donna

FR is for people to post what they want about what they want.


25 posted on 05/19/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker

Then you must be pretty happy with my posts.


26 posted on 05/19/2012 6:57:44 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

AND spread negativity and defeatism.


27 posted on 05/19/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna
Like I said, you like big government.

Big government comes from the New Deal Commerce Clause, not the 14th Amendment. Do you think the New Deal view of the CC is in keeping with original understanding of the Constitution, YES or NO?

That’s just the most anti-conservative part of these damaging posts. You think Eric Holder should “save the dogs”!

Stop mischaracterizing my posts. You said bad cops were a local matter only. I pointed out your error. Do you have a constitutional argument to counter my point?

28 posted on 05/19/2012 7:08:58 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: donna

You have the right to try to tell FReepers how to post and we are free to ignore your ridiculous suggestions.

We can even point out that you are wrong; which many have done with no intelligent responses from you.


29 posted on 05/19/2012 7:10:27 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Ken H

If not Eric Holder, then who?


30 posted on 05/19/2012 7:11:33 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Eaker

So, you ARE happy with my posts.

That’s good, because otherwise the thread is only gossip that takes the wind out of our conservative sails.


31 posted on 05/19/2012 7:14:57 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna

That is your personal subjective take on it. Others do not see it that way. You do not rule here.


32 posted on 05/19/2012 7:20:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: donna

LOL!

Really?

Do you actually read your own posts?

There is probably a soccer thread that needs your nannybot help!


33 posted on 05/19/2012 7:22:43 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: donna
How about having the common courtesy to answer my questions before you ask another. I'll repeat them. When you answer, then I will address your question.

1. Do you think the New Deal view of the Commerce Clause is in keeping with original understanding of the Constitution... YES or NO?

2. Do you have a constitutional argument to counter my point that bad local cops are the business of the federal government under Title 19 and the 14th Amendment... YES or NO?

34 posted on 05/19/2012 7:23:58 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: donna

Dictators and would-be-dictators rely on jack-booted thugs to enforce tyranny at the local level.


35 posted on 05/19/2012 8:17:02 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: donna

So, should we also post positive reports of the things the Nazis did, because they many atrocities they also committed cause one to become downcast?

Here’s a notion: Promote national awareness of a national problem, so that it can be dealt with before we have our own version of the Gestapo or the Stasi.


36 posted on 05/19/2012 8:20:09 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: donna
What is truly un-conservative is to be outraged that ALL heads of the government hydra are being watched. The one labeled "police" is no less likely than the other heads of the beast named "Government" to strike against good Freepers; it is but one head among the other heads. The one who says "pay attention to the Senate-head, the DHS-head, the President head--but the police head, do not pay attention to it; speak only good things about it" Such a person acts in collusion with the hydra when the police head bites down upon an honest, innocent Freeper. Who, therefore, truly likes big hydra government?
37 posted on 05/19/2012 8:35:28 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: nickcarraway

Sun rises.


38 posted on 05/19/2012 9:10:15 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Ken H

Why don’t you clarify your meaning so I’ll understand this complicated issue of dog shooting by local cops. Do you want Eric Holder to take control?


39 posted on 05/19/2012 9:15:47 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Altariel

So, what are you doing locally about this national problem?


40 posted on 05/19/2012 9:16:52 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna

What are you doing about it? After all, it is you who does not wish us to discuss the police-head of the government-hydra in a negative fashion.


41 posted on 05/19/2012 9:21:37 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I’m gonna call Eric Holder and tell him you need him and want him, LOL.


42 posted on 05/19/2012 9:36:20 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna

How fascinating, that your “threat” is to call government. I’m noticing a pattern.


43 posted on 05/19/2012 9:57:38 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

One of the problems we have now in our society is the whole “we ought to have a law” mentality. It has made almost everything a police matter and as you said, you are inviting a paramilitary force to solve your problem.

My family will no longer call police for almost anything. There is almost no problem that can’t be made worse by injecting the police.


44 posted on 05/19/2012 10:40:16 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: donna

No, the police killing our dogs “at will” spreads negativity.


45 posted on 05/19/2012 10:44:46 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Altariel

Whatever you do, don’t do anything productive. Just sit around and depress everyone.


46 posted on 05/19/2012 11:26:01 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: packrat35

Take it to the state board, organize, and do something about it.


47 posted on 05/19/2012 11:28:25 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna

Depression isn’t the response that compels one to try to distract a Conservative Hero from the threat of the police-head of the government hydra.

Allegiance to said hydra would explain such a motivation; depression does not.


48 posted on 05/20/2012 12:15:38 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Thanks for the ping, Joe.

First they came for the dogs; what will it take for enough conservatives to rise up against this.

Will the next victims be the parents, so that their children may be taken from “abusive” conservative homes by agents of the State to be Wards of the State?

Will conservative parents be viewed then by officers as dogs are increasingly viewed by them today: shoot on sight, claim to be threatened?

Clearly, this is a test being leveled across the nation: will we roll over and go back to sleep and ignore this head of the hydra, or will we remain awake and work to rid our nation of this beast?


49 posted on 05/20/2012 12:20:33 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: donna

Yea, that’s been working so well so far. Fact is, the police are becoming our masters at doing their bidding and they are protected in every way!


50 posted on 05/20/2012 12:35:05 AM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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