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Karl Rove: North Carolina and Indiana Are ‘Gone’ for Obama, Wisconsin a ‘Battleground’ State
The Blaze ^ | 5/20/2012 | Madeline Morgenstern

Posted on 05/20/2012 3:07:43 PM PDT by Signalman

Republican strategist Karl Rove said Friday he believes North Carolina and Indiana are “gone” for President Barack Obama in November and that Wisconsin has become a “battleground” state.

“I think North Carolina is gone just like Indiana is gone. Obama has no chance to win them,” Rove told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. “I think Ohio and Florida are leaning today towards Romney. I think places like Iowa and Colorado are in danger of floating into the Republican column. And states like Nevada and Pennsylvania are moving from lean Democrat into toss-up category. And on June 5th, mark my words, we will have more poll data than we got today that is going to show that Wisconsin’s a battleground state.”


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KEYWORDS: colorado; electoral; florida; indiana; iowa; karlrove; nevada; northcarolina; ohio; pennsylvania; rove; wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/20/2012 3:07:52 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

How would he know? I wish Rove was “gone”


2 posted on 05/20/2012 3:14:52 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Ted Cruz Texas' true conservative)
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To: Signalman

It’s the kenyan, stupid!


3 posted on 05/20/2012 3:15:18 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Signalman

he believes North Carolina and Indiana are “gone” for President Barack Obama in November<<<<

What language is he speaking?


4 posted on 05/20/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: WilliamRobert

“How would he know? I wish Rove was “gone”

I know, hate on Rove. But the sob is a genius at this stuff and he’s got no ax to grind on this, I’m thinking he’s right on. Hoping he is too. Why discourage enthusiasm because you don’t lke the guy? I’m going with the white board on this one.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 3:17:45 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: LucyT

“I think North Carolina is gone just like Indiana is gone. Obama has no chance to win them,”

That should clarify it.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 3:18:04 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: jessduntno

The more guys like Rove and Dick Morris predict a win for the GOP, the more FReepers seem to dislike them. I don’t get it.


7 posted on 05/20/2012 3:19:41 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Signalman

“I wish Rove was “gone”

Amen to that. I’m fed up with this wanna-be celebrity. Two or three weeks ago he was on television bleating on that if the election were held “today” Obama would beat Romney. Now this moron prattles on about states for Obama that are “gone” when three weeks ago Obama was inevitable. What a buffoon.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 3:20:29 PM PDT by antonico
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To: antonico

Are you aware that electoral data are generally dynamic, not static and things can change?


9 posted on 05/20/2012 3:22:29 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: jessduntno
My opinions on the states in question are the same as Rove's. They were also the same before I read the article. After being around the track a few times you get to where these einsteins have little to say that you didn't already know, or could figure out if you wanted to.

God knows how they make so much money for so little.

10 posted on 05/20/2012 3:22:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: jessduntno

Why discourage enthusiasm because you don’t lke the guy?


Good point. I see a lot of that going on here.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 3:25:56 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Signalman
Rove trashed Christine O'Donnell in 2010 and maybe one or more other Tea Party candidates. Some people are unwilling to forgive him for that.

"Those who remember the past are condemned to repeat it" or something like that.

12 posted on 05/20/2012 3:26:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Signalman

Romney not my first choice, but he will win in a landlside. Gay marriage was the final nail


13 posted on 05/20/2012 3:28:06 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: hinckley buzzard

“My opinions on the states in question are the same as Rove’s.”

HahahahahhahaahahaHahahahahhahaahahaHahahahahhahaahaha.

Whew. Thanks, I needed that. Hmmmmmmmmmppppppphhhhh.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 3:28:22 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I would rather see Michael Barone saying these things. He does political analysis with an electron microscope. County by county, street by street.

That said, I hope Rove is right.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 3:28:50 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Signalman
The West will decide this election.

If Romney wins two out of Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico, then everything else falls in place for him to win it. If he doesn't, then the Kenyan gets his second term.

16 posted on 05/20/2012 3:28:59 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Signalman
The more guys like Rove and Dick Morris predict a win for the GOP, the more FReepers seem to dislike them. I don’t get it.

Well, Rove's a son of a bitch who hates conservatives and loves Republican elitists. You know, we call them Socialists when the same types are in Europe.

And Morris? He's just creepy crawly skin-crawlin material.

17 posted on 05/20/2012 3:31:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: LucyT

IOW....Obama will lose NC and Indiana.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 3:37:30 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Lazamataz

“Well, Rove’s a son of a bitch who hates conservatives and loves Republican elitists.”

Well, he hates that jug eared son of a bitch in the WH though. That makes him on my side. I don’t care if he isn’t a conservative. He’s not a pro distributionist, black reperationist Marxist effeminate mom jeans wearing ahole supporter and he gets a pulpit and a microphone a hell of a lot bigger’n yours and that’s a plus...I think. Don’t you? Or don’t you think?


19 posted on 05/20/2012 3:37:43 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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Dear Karl,

Remember when Michell Obama quoted that sometimes she’s just wants to walk out of the White House door and just keep walking.

Hey Karl, take a hint.


20 posted on 05/20/2012 3:41:41 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Col Frank Slade; All
I would rather see Michael Barone saying these things. He does political analysis with an electron microscope. County by county, street by street. That said, I hope Rove is right.

Rove is, Dick Morris is, and Carville is on a screed about it.... They know and I smell it too.

I predicted it here ( all of the following below and Morris agrees with me about the Senate), it is gonna be the biggest blowout possibly in history. It will take the Dem's 20 years to recover.

* We reach 60 in the Senate.
* Romney wins even if he is a placeholder.
* We keep the House and send more Tea Party Reinforcements for those already their.
* The down ticket gains, all the way down to dog catcher are huge.

The question begs, can we get rid of Boehner and McConnell...

21 posted on 05/20/2012 3:43:46 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: jessduntno

Just checkin’ something before I answer: You being a male erectile-tissue head?


22 posted on 05/20/2012 3:47:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: taildragger

“It will take the Dem’s 20 years to recover.”
Isn’t that what they said about the Republicans in 2008? Romney will assist the Dems in their recovery.


23 posted on 05/20/2012 3:48:25 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Lazamataz

“Just checkin’ something before I answer: You being a male erectile-tissue head?”

Pretty stiff questioning.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: Signalman

I think they both felt McCain was in good shape to win despite Rasmussen calling it for Obama.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 3:51:16 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comió un perro)
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To: taildragger

One more thing... Watch Michigan, IMHO I have been saying since 10’ and Palin endorsing the Doc’ who took Stupak’s seat it is gonna be where the action is...


26 posted on 05/20/2012 3:51:16 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Lazamataz

Just checkin’ something before I answer: You being a male erectile-tissue head?


Brilliant statement. Not.


27 posted on 05/20/2012 3:52:24 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Signalman

Can’t speak for the Indiana, but I spend a lot of time in North Carolina, and Rove is right; the Tar Heel state will go red in November, just a matter of how big the margin is.

Look at what’s happened in NC since 2008. When Obama won, we were told that North Carolina was an example of the new, southern “swing” state (like Virginia) that would go Democratic as often as it landed in the GOP column.

Since then, the Republicans have won a majority in both houses of the state legislature (and the Congressional delegation). They’ve also forced the incumbent Democrat Governor, Beverly Perdue, to abandon her run for a second term. And the ballot measure banning gay marriage was approved by a 20-point majority.

Quite a backdrop for Barry and the Dims when they arrive in Charlotte for their convention. Believe me, if there was any way they could move the convention to a more friendly location, they would.

Here’s another news flash for The Architect: Virginia will go for the GOP as well.


28 posted on 05/20/2012 3:52:44 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: jessduntno
Just checkin. Because if you are being a d***head, I am in the mood for a good smackdown, and your corpse is as good as the next.

So: Question remains. D***head, and it's on, or not d***head, and you get a serious answer.

29 posted on 05/20/2012 3:53:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Supporting gay marriage was the final nail in Obama's coffin.

"You 'n your lousy ideas. I oughta throw you off the ticket."

"You hadda suckup to a bunch of sicko perverts. And drag me
into it. The whole dam country is in Romney's pocket, going
Republican. "

"Me? I'm stuck with you 'n a buncha queers sizing up my ***
trying to get my private phone number."

"Worse yet, DNC plans to have Michelle French-kiss
Ellen DeGenerate on national TV had to be cancelled.
Michelle is furious."

===================================

I loved that goofy, scared look on Ohaha's face day after the gayder debacle...knowing he had personally rocketed Romney's numbers into the stratosphere. If Ohaha dared mention gay marriage, he knew he was throwing himself off a political cliff.

30 posted on 05/20/2012 3:54:42 PM PDT by Liz (Ut, oh----relax, put your feet up, and butter the popcorn----now watch the PA Porker Shuffle begin.)
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To: Lazamataz

What the hell are you babbling about?


31 posted on 05/20/2012 3:55:44 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: Signalman
Add Pennsylvania to that list

/.02

32 posted on 05/20/2012 4:00:56 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: Signalman

Bull!!!

Zero has lost Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa, Missouri!!! Probably Wisconsin and Jumpin jimminy Minnesota!!!


33 posted on 05/20/2012 4:01:11 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe
Thought that was Yumpin' Yimminy' ? !   ;-)
34 posted on 05/20/2012 4:04:25 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: Signalman

The “Architect” of defeatism speaketh...


35 posted on 05/20/2012 4:05:24 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Lazamataz
And Morris?

Let me add one more thing to your description of Morris. His predictions are almost always wrong.

36 posted on 05/20/2012 4:06:30 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Signalman

There’s no small government conservative, among Obama and Romney! If only Virgil Goode or Tom Hoefling had a serious chance of, actually, winning the race for ‘12 POTUS.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 4:08:10 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Signalman

There are some Freepers who don’t like Morris for reasons having nothing to do with politics. Rove they just don’t like.


38 posted on 05/20/2012 4:09:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Signalman

There are some Freepers who don’t like Morris for reasons having nothing to do with politics. Rove they just don’t like.


39 posted on 05/20/2012 4:09:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jessduntno

Yeah, Rove is a slimeball, but he is a well connected slimeball. This is good news, imho.


40 posted on 05/20/2012 4:09:26 PM PDT by wbill
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To: tallyhoe
Sorry, but I (sorry again) live in Minnesota.

Our voters are about as accomplished as our sports teams.

Didn't even vote for Reagan.

I'm afraid the land of Stuart Smalley and Jesse "The Body" is a hopeless cause.

41 posted on 05/20/2012 4:12:13 PM PDT by daler
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To: Signalman
Rove says SC is a tossup—we haven't voted Democrat since 1976.

I guess since we hate Willard so much KR thinks we won't show up for him—plus SC was one of the few states that went with Newt and Newt people despise Romney the most.

I submit, however, that we are so scared merdeless of the queer Marxist getting another four that we will give even Mitt a landslide win.

42 posted on 05/20/2012 4:20:48 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Biden and Obama--funny ha ha and funny queer.")
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To: taildragger
Obama can drop lower and lower in the polls compared to Romney and still beat him. That's because every time Romney does something he drops lower in the polls.

Keep your eyes on the numbers with the registered voters ~ and check how many get excluded because they had answers/responses that didn't fit the paradigm ~

This has nothing whatsoever to do with the Senate and the House ~ they've been delinked and uncoupled ever since the other candidates decided to quit running with Romney in the race. It's all statistical methodology, and the guys doing the polls are finding it difficult to tell us what's happening ~ because it hasn't happened before.

Just remember that 4 years ago Romney ended up in the 20% range against McCain ~ and that's where he started out this year ~ anything much over that reflects the Mormon factor or election fraud in Virginia.

The guy has 20% of the Republican base behind him. That's not enough to run a campaign on to say nothing of winning.

On the other hand Obama has been below 50% for quite some time and is expected to do nothing but drop lower ~ internal polling by the Democrats may already show some 30% states creeping into the stats ~ and that's just his own peeps with no Republicans in the mix.

It is conceivable that both these guys could end up with about 20% of the possible vote ~ or, a grand total of less than 50% of all the votes.

You can't claim a Mandate of Heaven on that basis.

We can avoid all of this if Romney will simply step aside and let ANYBODY ELSE in the race,.

43 posted on 05/20/2012 4:21:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: daler
Sorry, but I (sorry again) live in Minnesota.

Don't apologize. I should apologize. I live in the state the brought us Barbara Boxer. Sigh . . .

44 posted on 05/20/2012 4:22:00 PM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: builder
And Ronald Reagan.

That's a pretty good buffer when it comes to political "shame."

45 posted on 05/20/2012 4:27:12 PM PDT by daler
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Romney not my first choice, but he will win in a landlside. Gay marriage was the final nail

I don't follow your logic ... Romney Personally Issued Marriage Licenses to 189 Same-Sex Couples and "exercised illegal legislative authority" to do so. If Romney so much as hints at this issue during the presidential debates Obama will expose him for the hypocrite he his. In fact, Obama is more likely to keep talking gay marriage than Romney just to pull the rug out from under Romney.


46 posted on 05/20/2012 4:31:46 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Signalman; jessduntno; hinckley buzzard; Verginius Rufus; unkus

>> Why discourage enthusiasm because you don’t lke the guy? <<

Because for some people, hatred is just plain ole FUN!


47 posted on 05/20/2012 4:35:24 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Signalman

This is what I’ve been saying all along. Go down the list of states where Obama won in 2008 and the vote was at all close and they are all going to go against him.

This November will see a GOP landslide almost everywhere.


48 posted on 05/20/2012 4:42:08 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Hawthorn

>> Why discourage enthusiasm because you don’t lke the guy? <<

“Because for some people, hatred is just plain ole FUN!”

Well, yeah, I reckon there is that...I just don’t see why the hell anyone would be helping the other side as “fun.”

Sounds like pulling wings off of flies territory to me, except the Marxist in Chief in the WH for four more very long years (not to mention the SCOTUS appointments that will curse us for decades) will likely kill off enough of us that we never come back. Just too GD serious to be horseshitting around.


49 posted on 05/20/2012 4:44:09 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

What I think Obama has done, is convince a whole bunch of traditionally-Dem white union households that the Dem Party has become the party of blacks and gays, and that they would be nuts to continue to support it.


50 posted on 05/20/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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