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Vanity: Anyone been to military high school or sent a child to one?
T4B ^ | 5/20/2012 | T4B

Posted on 05/20/2012 6:28:09 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush

Anyone who has been to military high school or sent a child to one, I'd like your opinion/thoughts.

My son will be entering his junior year in high school this fall. He has not fared well at all at the local public high school. Grades are bad, and he has not been able to make any friends much to speak of. He is a good kid, never a problem for us.

He has always wanted to make a career out of the military, in particular would love to go to the AF academy, or take some path where he could fly planes. He does okay on standardized tests, but he lacks the focus to get things turned in and keep up in class.

I have been looking at 3 schools in particular that are not too far from Knoxville: Camden Military School in SC, Fork Union Military School in VA, and Fishburne Military School in VA.

Fishburne is the most intriguing from the standpoint of being accepted to one of the academies for college. Apparently, they have a JROTC program with distinction and can nominate a cadet to an academy (as opposed to getting a Senator or someone to nominate you). Anyone who can shed some light on how big a deal that is your input will be appreciated.

Each one seems to have its strong points. I am leaning toward Fishburne but Mrs. T4B is leaning toward Fork Union.

My son is actually looking forward to it, believe it or not. I think he likes the military aspect of it all. Plus I think he will excel with the focus and motivation they have a way of pulling out of young men.

Again, any input will be appreciated. We are really out of our element on this one. I never served in the military, and never went to anything but a public school for that matter.

Thanks in advance. I just know that whenever there is anything about anything posted on FR there always are quite a few Freepers who happen to be experts, and hoping that proves to be the case here.


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1 posted on 05/20/2012 6:28:22 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I attended Allen Military Academy (ROTC) from 1978 until 1982.

Changed my life, I carry the lessons learned still today.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 6:32:57 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My son’s friend went to a military school in junior high. He liked it. It probably depends a lot on the boy’s disposition and the school itself.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 6:33:54 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: humblegunner

Did you end up going to college?


4 posted on 05/20/2012 6:37:30 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Georgia Military Academy. 1956 thru 58.

Just do it. Having the base of a year or two serves one well for a lifetime no matter the direction chosen.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Kemper, Boonesville, Mo. High School and JC. It wasn’t co-
ed when I attended “67, 68, but has a rich tradition.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 6:40:27 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

They are now welcoming gay men out of the closet to do their dance in the military. It is an authortarian enviornment and if he gets a gay man in authority over him, I don’t know anymore. You have observed how tolerant gay men are of Christians/students who reject their sexual activity?

Homos are very sexually aggressive towards young men, especially when they have authority over them. A study came out BEFORE they began integrating homosexual sex into the military, but after the Left starting shoving it into our culture, and a surprisingly high number of men said they have been raped in the military. That is only going to get more aggressive.

Also the military is harassing Christians because they have given offically politically correct preferences to Muslims and gays. Both these groups hate Christians. You need to investigate all this. They are breaking new ground here.


7 posted on 05/20/2012 6:43:03 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Did you end up going to college?

Yes. The program was favored and weighed heavily toward acceptance.

The downside is that a feller can get fed up with "Corps" and such if exposed too early.

Might even cause rebellion and bad decisions.

Just something to think about.

I read it on the internet somewhere. ;-)

8 posted on 05/20/2012 6:46:32 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Look at RANDOLPH-MACON in Ashland.
One of the few academies to have a Junior Air Force Rotc Program.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Attending a military academy was a great experience for me. It changed my attitude on self determination and gave me a grounded respect for achievement and discipline. The habits I learned in my teen years trained me in advance for my service in the Army.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 6:49:56 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I should add that RMA has a Flight Training Program with two Cessna 172’s they own, and a good local Civil Air Patrol Squadron.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 6:53:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Hi There. I’m a Fork Union Military Academy (FUMA) alumni. I graduated in 1987. It was one of the best experiences of my life. The staff there are second to none and there is no comparison what-so-ever to public schools. Of course I have a bias (especially when it comes to FUMA vs. Fishburne). FUMA is due to open brand new, state of the art barracks this fall which look incredible. I can sum the place up with four words - FUMA changed my life.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 6:58:36 PM PDT by Dubya-M-Dees (Little HOPE... No CHANGE)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

i sent my son to the airforce academy in melbourne florida. i could only afford one year. not a typical military school. you cant find a better place if you have the money. regimented but fair . so much to do including learning how to fly.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 7:00:37 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Try this: http://www.riversidemilitary.com/netcommunity/


14 posted on 05/20/2012 7:02:32 PM PDT by 80sReaganite (Where is our next Ronaldus Magnus....?)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I’ve been as well as some friends of mine.

It is the answer for many kids these days.

Of late I know of a young man very troubled with drugs, his father is going to prison for drug rackets. The temptations available to him were too much.

He went to the local troubled teen Thunderbird Academy. He’s now finishing his first year at Texas A&M. It was truly a miracle. The structure and accountability just hit the right chord.

I guess it depends on the school but if he wants out of public school that, on it’s own, is a warning sign not to ignore.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 7:05:37 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I went to an all boys catholic military school and graduated in 1991. Was it a great experience? Yes. Will it work miracles? Depends. Some advantages were the small class sizes, everyone knew everyone. This is good and bad. You get pigeon hooded pretty quickly. The military aspect JROTC, was great. Many of my classmates went on to ROTC and later to serve. The early exposure taught them (and me) a ton about discipline, respect, and the politics of life (Let’s just say if your parents had money, it may be easier for you). . Much like real life.


16 posted on 05/20/2012 7:07:00 PM PDT by GeoPie
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I went to Valley Forge Military Academy in Wayne, PA back in the 70’s. It’s deep in Yankee territory and was expensive back then as it is now. I think it’s as good as they come. Stormin Norman Schwarzkopf went there. Last I knew lots of grads were going on to one of the national service academies.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 7:07:34 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I went to a private (Church Based - non denominational) that was probably borderline military> Since I served in the military for over 5 1/2 years (USAF)I can safely say that Wasatch Academy was just about as close to Military as a school can get and not be called a Military Academy.

When I took basic training I had all the skills and attitudes it took to excel - and I did.

I breezed through basic training and the T.I.’s (Training Instructors / Drill Instructors) picked on me almost exclusively because they knew that I could take everything they dished out and I was the perfect subject because I had already experienced most of what they threw at me.

One other kid got the same treatment. His parents were missionaries in China. That should say something about how he was brought up also.

Some Military Schools do get (or let) thing get out of hand. Primarily between student cadets. It is not necessarily the instructors you have to worry about but rather the (other / more senior) students.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 7:07:50 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My brother was a Castle Heights and Kemper.


19 posted on 05/20/2012 7:08:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I attended Fork Union Military Academy and went on to the Naval Academy and a 25 year career in the Navy. Fork Union changed my life period. Everything I have done is built on that foundation. I just had my 35th reunion at FUMA and a half dozen of my teachers were still there! As with all things it is what you put into it but it is a fine Military school and will give your son the focus and discipline her needs.


20 posted on 05/20/2012 7:08:15 PM PDT by The Klingon
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I was an unmotivated student and chose to go to military school, hoping they’d be able to make me a better student. External motivation only goes so far. If you don’t want to study there’s not much anyone can do until that changes. My school required you sit at the desk evenings with study books open. That didn’t mean they could make you read them. Get what I’m saying?


21 posted on 05/20/2012 7:09:15 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Our youngest son spent a year at Admiral Farragut Academy. Essentially it was a repeat of his senior year in a public high school.

He was found to be dyslectic when he went into high school, and altho dyslectics have their own interesting way of seeing things, it is not the norm of other kids. This was a boy who never gave us a problem and was a happy kid, but a solid D student. Because he wasn’t a problem in school either, he wasn’t singled out for special help in this school — which BTW is in the top 10 schools in this state.

But at Farragut Academy, because of the smaller classes and adherance to routine and order, he not only prospered, but ended up on the honor role — in only one year!!

He went on to college, got an Associates Degree, then a BS and then a few years later, a Masters. He is now 50 and is a success in whatever he does.

We truely feel that Farragut Academy was a deciding factor in his life.

Hope this helps.


22 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:45 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: 80sReaganite

If you know Riverside; you know Brenau Acaqdmy which I attended.


23 posted on 05/20/2012 7:12:49 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My hubby went to FUMA (Fork Union). I sent you a private message with my thoughts, I’ll let you know what dear hubby’s thoughts are tomorrow, when he’s awake to answer questions...if I asked him right now, I’d either get snores and mumbles, or worse, he’d start speaking nonsense about the last thoughts he had before falling asleep...and as we watched an old episode of Man Vs Food on Netflix... I’d probably hear about eating 10 lb cheeseburgers...YUCK! :P


24 posted on 05/20/2012 7:13:25 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: The Klingon

Thanks for your input. How hard was it to get into the Naval Academy? Did FUMA help you get an interview or do anything special for you to help you get accepted?


25 posted on 05/20/2012 7:15:22 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Cailleach

Should have mentioned in public that his experiences at FUMA were all very positive. :)


26 posted on 05/20/2012 7:24:45 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Glorified reform school. Give him a lifelong appreciation for reform school girls!


27 posted on 05/20/2012 7:25:01 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My daughter went to Culver Academy (Culver Indiana) which operates on a military model for boys and a prefect system for girls. You’ll never hear a bad word about it from me. Boys showed my daughter and me real respect and their record on military academy admissions is good. Being there for only two years instead of four was not a problem.


28 posted on 05/20/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by organicchemist
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Had a boyfriend once that graduated from this one:

http://www.forkunion.com/

He loved it. He graduated in 1985? I often wonder where he is now.


29 posted on 05/20/2012 7:30:06 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush; Cailleach

Our son in law attended Fork Union. He speaks highly of the school and faculty. I have pinged our daughter, she can ask him any questions you might have.


30 posted on 05/20/2012 7:32:43 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

a few thoughts
Being a pilot, is not what we think any more. He may have the opportunity to fly f22/35 the 18/16/15 are going to be harder to find. Uav drivers are not pilots. If he wants adventure, he needs to get on the net and learn as much math as he can take. Pilots 10 years out are the guys proving the next gen platforms. naval 6th gen opt/piloted systems (bombers carrier) requirement for deployment ‘25-30 were just released to industry. Any one looking to have the gov spend 2.5-4mil on their ed, needs to come in with basically a good understanding aerodynamic, and electro/magnetism.

The next 2 years are screwed, have him get solo qualified, and get an associates degree in aerodynamics.

Look for opportunities in the aerospace industry, for intern work.

The next set of flyboys will be more like our test pilots as they will be the last persons to occupy a cockpit.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 7:35:44 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My wife taught at one. The discipline is better. You might talk to them about providing tutoring for him to bring his skills up. Once a kid gets behind, it is almost impossible to catch them back up without a little help. I learned that through my own public school experience, short lived as it was. Some years later I ran into an old black guy who was a retired school teacher. In a matter of months, he taught me everything I failed to learn from the 1st grade to the 10th. Had I known what he taught me, I would have made A’s in school, as I did later in college.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 7:37:10 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Cailleach

LOL I just pinged you to this thread.


33 posted on 05/20/2012 7:39:06 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Graduated from Valley Forge myself...class of ‘88. School is definitely not what it once was. Gen Baker is probably spinning his grave. Not sure if the current experience justifies the astronomical tuition.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 7:39:15 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Went to Culver Military Academy, graduated a 2nd Lt. (1 grade from highest rank possible due to my being there only my last 2 years) in ‘63, best decision of my life after becoming a Christian 4 years later and choosing my wife. Culver is one of the top 5 academic schools in the nation, and when I was there Culver got to send two grads to each service academy each year WITHOUT congressional appointment because their academic and military standards were so high. I was pressured to take one of the non-sponsored slots and go to Anapolis, but decided against it - perhaps the biggest mistake of my life.

Big thing here was I chose to go to Culver, and wasn’t sent by my parents. They SENT my brother against his will after me, he hated it and did terribly. DON’T send your son there unless he is in agreement. Then it will be fantastic.

As Culver has since become an elitist school only for the super-rich (my parents were NOT, tho it was expensive then), and very humanistic in it’s world view and teaching, I’d chose Fork Union - a Christian school that has changed hundreds of lives, if not thousands. I’ve known staff there, and students - it’s not far from where I live. I could not recommend it more.....


35 posted on 05/20/2012 7:49:00 PM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I know nothing about these schools, but you can use the Internet to help you “vet” them. Google the name of each school and then all the worst terms you can think of, such as “rape,” “bullying,” “hazing,” etc. This may help you turn up candid discussions of the schools on various Internet forums. Then turn it around and google the names of the schools (one at a time, of course) with good terms such as “great,” “outstanding,” and neutral key terms such as “teachers,” “administration,” etc.

I did a search of this kind on my son’s opthalmologist when we were contemplating having him do surgery. (I asked around at our HMO but only got the party line of “oh yeah, he’s great.”) And what I found out, much to my relief, was that he was the best pediatric opthalmologist in our whole area and an expert at the kind of surgery we were looking at. (And he did an outstanding job on the surgery, too!)

Anyway, you can play detective and turn up all sorts of interesting things on the Internet if you have time to snoop around and are motivated.


36 posted on 05/20/2012 7:52:55 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Try Sylvan Learning Center. My youngest almost failed 6th grade so I sent him for evaluation, motivation and to learn study skills. Perfect in JH & AP in HS 4.25 GPA Graduate of UCSB.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 7:57:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I'm in the military, but didn't go to HS. I will say this: it is extremely difficult to become a pilot. I know a lot of very good men who failed to even make it to flight school let alone the ones who failed out of it.

Just take it one step at a time. There are so many amazing jobs in the military. Keep an open mind. And good luck.

38 posted on 05/20/2012 7:58:54 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Marine Miltary Academy. Naval Prep School and good college prep.

http://www.mma-tx.org/


39 posted on 05/20/2012 8:01:00 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I know a few people who went to the Naval Academy.

I was a Sonar Technician on USS Francis Scott Key (SSBN-657) from 1984 to 1989. Gold crew.

The boat carried 16 Trident I SLBMs.

8 W76 (100kt) warheads per missile.


40 posted on 05/20/2012 8:07:46 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My son went to a military school run by the Louisiana National Guard for his remaining time in high school. He was 16 and only had to attend one 5 month session, and was able to get his GED. It did him a world of good, as he had been talking about going in the Marines, and this just solidified his decision when he turned 18. I know there are other military schools run by the different military branches, and I can’t see how a young man wouldn’t benefit from attending one of these schools.


41 posted on 05/20/2012 8:28:26 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: SaraJohnson

Yep-—they threw out the Christian Paradigm which our military excelled under-—created the greatest soldiers in history— like Patton. Christian Ethics have been jettisoned—now Vice is promoted instead of Virtue. It is unconstitutional on many levels-—esp. since it violates the Laws of Nature and God’s Laws.

But Zero and the Democrats have thrown the Constitution under the bus.


42 posted on 05/20/2012 8:32:40 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

This is probably a good route to take, especially if the grades in HS aren’t up to par. My grandson just went through the rigorous routine of getting a senator’s recommendation and his jr. high through high school grades were in the 98 percentile in the US. The competition is ferocious. The paperwork and interviews seemed never-ending. (2 year process) He was accepted to the Naval Academy on recommendation of Richard Lugar, was packing his bags, ready to go to med school last fall. He got a letter from the Academy saying even if they accepted him and he got his M.D., he couldn’t get a commission because they looked at his med report and he’s color blind. Navy doesn’t accept the color blind. So Lugar got him a commission offer from the Army to go to law school. He just finished his first semester at Purdue.

If your son doesn’t have the grades, then the military school may be what he needs to have opportunity to make up the grades. Again, competition is ferocious to get in.


43 posted on 05/20/2012 8:43:44 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I was at FUMA (Fork Union Military Academy) this morning. Our church is meeting in the gym for the next month or so. Beautiful campus, and the cadets are very respectful. A brand new dorm is being built, it is set to open up this summer. One of my Scouts went there last year and did him a world of good.


44 posted on 05/20/2012 8:54:58 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: savagesusie

This is a dangerous time in the military, then, for soldiers.


45 posted on 05/20/2012 9:07:36 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I attended military school. I was a lot like your son. Classic underachiever.

Lots of parents have the same idea as you. Problem child. Send him away and let someone else deal with it. Now you've got your son with lots of exposure to all types of deviant and anti-social behavior, but no one who really cares about him.

If he's a poor student, anti-social, etc, at home, that's what he's going to be somewhere else.

46 posted on 05/20/2012 9:12:39 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Tennessean4Bush

If for some reason the high school academy doesn’t work out, consider JROTC through your local high school, or the Civil Air Patrol (which also has high acceptance rates to the service academies), the Coast Guard Auxiliary (must be 17 years old) or homeschooling.

Bravo to you for doing the right thing and getting your son out of the public high school.


47 posted on 05/20/2012 9:55:06 PM PDT by tom h
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To: SaraJohnson

Extremely dangerous. Glad my son was out by the time zero got in.

Machiavelli stated that Virtue was necessary for militaries. That is a simple fact that our Founders, like Washington, knew was extremely important. That is why Christian Ethics used to be the standard. Now, with the forcing of the idea that “sodomy is good”, we will no longer have reason, logic or Truth being taught in the military. We will have to “reeducate” Christian men and women—which is just like Mao did.

It totally transforms the American military to one not based on the God which gives us our Natural Rights.....There has never been a “right” to sodomy. It is a sick, stupid evil idea—an atheist/pagan/Marxist/Satanic idea.


48 posted on 05/20/2012 10:24:18 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I went to Admiral Farragut Academy for 4 years (class of ‘74). Went to Syracuse University and was able to skip most of my Freshman required courses because my HS was so far ahead of the public schools at the time.

About 1/3 of my class (total graduating class size of around 30) went on to Annapolis, Air Force Academy, CG Academy, etc.).

No regrets at all for having attended... actually I thank my lucky stars I attended.


49 posted on 05/20/2012 10:35:34 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I attended Camden Military Academy from 2006-2007 (Junior Year of High School) and know all of the officers and administrators quite well.

Some background: I just graduated with honors from NC State with a B.S. - Economics and am starting my Masters in Economics Monday at NC State.

My view on Camden: It is a horrible school academically and is really only for troubled children. I went due to respect issues with my parents (no legal issues, just the typical backtalk, yada yada) yet I was always an AP/Honors student and always achieved high grades before and after the “Camden experience”. I slept through most of my Camden classes and made A’s in all of them.

Due to the fact that I had no behavior issues and performed very well academically and athletically I was left alone for the most part by the officers.

The other kids, however, that’s a whole nother story. I WOULD NOT send your kid there if he can’t handle himself in a fight. My father said that the one good thing that came out of Camden was that I learned how to fight/defend myself. This especially holds true if the kid is like me: smart, athletic (Captain and MVP of both Varsity Tennis and Varsity XC) and confident. I equate it to a jail type of environment. You piss off the wrong guy, you’re going to either get A) jumped and put in the hospital or B) something much worse and end up in the hospital. The kids there are that rough.

From what I’ve heard of the other schools, they are all the similar.

However, I gained a healthy new respect for my parents and it turned me from a boy into a man. Plus, I learned how to take care of myself in a good scrap :D

PM me if you would like names of the adult officers/administrators who I found made an impact.


50 posted on 05/20/2012 11:03:35 PM PDT by Black_Shark
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