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To: varmintman; exDemMom

Lets look at this human species graph from a mathematical perspective. At the tail end we have genus homo, showing h.erectus and h.heidlebeurgenus ending and h.neandertal and h.sapiens "suddenly appearing" in a short period of time. I have no problem with this. What I do have a problem with is trying to explain this as being caused by natural selection. No cross over species have been found, it is a step function by their own admission all are independent separate species. This is laughable on face value. Believe me, if any cross over species had been found it would have been MAJOR news.

No probability that a mutation occurred in a few thousand years that changed h.erectus into h.sapiens. No linear progression, are evos blind they will not see?

117 posted on 05/28/2012 7:27:57 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
There's one thing basically wrong with your graph and the understanding involved is very recent, and that is that even the Neanderthal does not belong in the same genus or whatever you want to call it as us:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2860792/posts

Basically, the Neanderthal has been ruled out as a plausible ancestor for modern man precisely because the genetic gap is too wide, and all other hominids were at least morphologically as far removed from us as the Neanderthal. That basically means that there is nothing on this planet which we could be descended from via any process resembling evolution.

127 posted on 05/28/2012 8:05:04 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: central_va
Lets look at this human species graph from a mathematical perspective. At the tail end we have genus homo, showing h.erectus and h.heidlebeurgenus ending and h.neandertal and h.sapiens "suddenly appearing" in a short period of time. I have no problem with this. What I do have a problem with is trying to explain this as being caused by natural selection. No cross over species have been found, it is a step function by their own admission all are independent separate species. This is laughable on face value. Believe me, if any cross over species had been found it would have been MAJOR news.

No probability that a mutation occurred in a few thousand years that changed h.erectus into h.sapiens. No linear progression, are evos blind they will not see?

You're making an error in assuming that current species, homo sapiens in particular, were the goals of the evolutionary process all along, and then looking backward and remarking that it was so improbable that these particular mutations would happen randomly so as to result in the existence of homo sapiens. Trying to get to a planned goal through a random process *is* pretty unlikely--it's like planning to win the lottery. But if you realize that homo sapiens is only one of many possibilities, it's like realizing that someone will win the lottery--you can't predict a winner before the lottery, even though it becomes fait accompli the second after the drawing.

The evolution of h. sapiens from h. erectus was not the result of a single key mutation. It was the result of an accumulation of mutations that made h. sapiens sufficiently different from h. erectus to be called a different species.

133 posted on 05/28/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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