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Hatfields & McCoys’ is a ratings record
The Times Herald via AP ^ | 06/02/2012 | LYNN ELBER

Posted on 06/02/2012 5:25:21 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

In the feud between the Hatfields and McCoys, the History channel proved the winner.

A miniseries about the warring families set basic cable viewing records, according to Nielsen Co. figures the channel released Thursday.

The three nights of “Hatfields & McCoys” were the top-rated entertainment telecasts ever for ad-supported basic cable, History said. Wednesday’s finale of “Hatfields & McCoys” was the most-watched of the three nights, with 14.3 million viewers. According to the History channel, that makes it the No. 1 non-sports and non-news program ever on ad-supported cable.

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1 posted on 06/02/2012 5:25:25 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was a good show and actually appears to have held fairly firm to real history. History channel could learn something from that.

As I understand it, Devil Anse Hatfield was really an ancient alien.


2 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was an excellent production


3 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was very good. In fact I plan on watching the whole thing again when I get home tonight.


4 posted on 06/02/2012 5:29:13 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: cripplecreek

I knowed Devil Anse had no soul!


5 posted on 06/02/2012 5:30:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I watched it and I really liked it. The only thing is, I know many historical events like that are blown out of proportion by popular myth. With the series tightened the timeline, so many of them people died that way.

I thought it might have a semi happy ending, but then I asked myself "how did you expect something like that to end?"

It was hard watching that cycle of violence.

6 posted on 06/02/2012 5:30:33 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: cripplecreek

There is a lack of evidence that he was not an alien. :)


7 posted on 06/02/2012 5:32:14 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

One of the things the History channel did very well was thread the promo of the series into other shows like Pawn stars and American pickers.

The Program itself was very good, but the promotion was excellent IMHO


8 posted on 06/02/2012 5:32:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cripplecreek
http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i51/5/5/10/frabz-Im-not-saying-the-hatfields-and-the-mccoys-were-aliens-46ac89.jpg
9 posted on 06/02/2012 5:34:09 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: KC_Lion

“It was hard watching that cycle of violence”

I agree and I personally think that was the point. On night 2, I said aloud, “When will enough BE ENOUGH?” Then I thought that this is what extreme hate can do. When “to get even” takes over every bit of soul and cell in oneself.. it becomes a cancer of sorts. Well, that is what I got out of it. Maybe I read too deeply into things....


10 posted on 06/02/2012 5:34:09 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: cripplecreek

I dvr’d the three episodes figuring after watching the first few battle scenes thinking that my wife would not have an interest. I watched the first episode and she watched the last two with me. We both enjoyed.


11 posted on 06/02/2012 5:34:59 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Delta Dawn

How did Devil Anse survive all that shooting?

Evidence seems to suggest that he was in possession of some sort of ancient shielding technology unknown to modern man.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 5:35:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Next week on American Restoration, Rick Dales will restore Johnsie Hatfields Still ☺
13 posted on 06/02/2012 5:37:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: momtothree
If you noticed it was the two men who started and led the Feud survived and had to live with what they had done?

Devil Anse and Randall McCoy outlived it by 30+ years, but they had to watch their Sons and Daughters get killed because of their hate.

14 posted on 06/02/2012 5:37:55 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was very well done. All involved deserve kudos.


15 posted on 06/02/2012 5:38:15 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I did not watch this, because it seems trivial. It’s not a major turning point in behavior or law or control.

However, it’s good to see HC achieve this level of success. It goes to show how much we are interested in the truth. I don’t detect bias on the HC, perhaps I’m naive, but I just don’t see it.


16 posted on 06/02/2012 5:40:10 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: KC_Lion

Devil Anse took to religion just before he died.


17 posted on 06/02/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cripplecreek
Otherwise how did aim those shots? They clearly didn't have laser range finders back in the 1880's....their is only one answer due to the lack of evidence...

Time Traveling Aliens gave them the technology, so Kevin Costner would make a 3 part TV series about it in 2012 and they would profit!

18 posted on 06/02/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: KC_Lion

Sort of a man made hell on earth. What could be worse than to watch child after child killed? The bible verse, “Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord” kept popping in my head. I got to thinking that vengeance is the Lord’s work since He can handle it and knows what is fair and just. At the end, I saw two broken, miserable, demented old men with nothing left... like the hate had consumed all of their humanity.


19 posted on 06/02/2012 5:42:55 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: cicero2k

It did shape law.


20 posted on 06/02/2012 5:43:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KC_Lion

That scene at the hanging really brought it all together about how long it went on and how pointless the whole thing was.

“Why are they famous?”

“For killing each other.”


21 posted on 06/02/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KC_Lion

Yep, pure hatred. It hollows out a soul. It ultimately takes from the holder everything that they hold dear.

I think Johnse should have taken Roseanna and left. I couldn’t help but think him a coward after the scene where it was clear he was choosing family over his kid’s mother.


22 posted on 06/02/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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To: mylife
And the series suggested that Randall McCoy died in a house fire.


GIFSoup

SYMBOLISM!!!!

You know because Randall was the more religious of the two.

23 posted on 06/02/2012 5:45:35 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The replay is on tonight it started at 6 central. Part two on now. Part three next. William Anderson “Devil Anse” Hatfield lived to 81 and was well off.


24 posted on 06/02/2012 5:46:59 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was all crap


25 posted on 06/02/2012 5:47:46 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I agree. It was a good show. I’ll probably buy the DVD.


26 posted on 06/02/2012 5:48:25 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Kid Shelleen
"A miniseries about the warring families set basic cable viewing records, according to Nielsen Co. figures the channel released Thursday."

So, I guess people can expect the other networks to create feuding hillbilly shows in attempt to copy the success of this series? Maybe even a "Beverly Hillbillies in the 21st Century" sitcom?

27 posted on 06/02/2012 5:49:09 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: ought-six

I enjoyed it. Even Mrs. MAExile enjoyed enjoyed it. (That’s saying something.)

I didn’t even have to duct tape a 2x4 over Kevin Costner to improve the acting.


28 posted on 06/02/2012 5:51:38 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Powers Booth was excellent as Judge Hatfield
Ronan Vibert was excellent as Perry Cline


29 posted on 06/02/2012 5:51:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cicero2k
I don’t detect bias on the HC, perhaps I’m naive, but I just don’t see it.

One deviation from history that was part artistic license and I suspect part bias was the first killing. From what I've read Asa McCoy wasn't killed at a still. The history I read was that he was hiding in a cave and Vance followed the slave who was feeding McCoy.

It brings up one of those historical stumbles that history doesn't like. Asa McCoy fought on the union side in the civil war yet still owned a slave.
30 posted on 06/02/2012 5:51:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek; Hawk1976
Not to mention you had hangers on getting rich and famous of the feud that allowed it to continue, like Perry Cline and Bad Frank Phillips.

The scene with Randall McCoy on being interviewed on the porch and the muckraker wanted a picture of him with a gun really drove home to me how that whole thing got blown out of proportion.

That is when the became "famous for killing each other".

31 posted on 06/02/2012 5:51:57 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: cripplecreek

It was poignant that the Towheaded retard was the only one hung.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 5:53:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kid Shelleen

There were many feuds during that time that were more violent and with higher body counts. The thing that made this feud famous was that it involved two states and therefore the federal govt which attracted the attention of the press. History Channel did a very good job. I enjoyed it.


33 posted on 06/02/2012 5:55:01 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: KC_Lion

Suggested?
Heck, that’s what they portrayed.


34 posted on 06/02/2012 5:55:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KC_Lion

I Liked the Devil Anse line “I must bend because Randall McCoy cannot”.


35 posted on 06/02/2012 5:56:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was great,

So unlike Hollywood today

1) The men actually acted like men acted back then. In too many historical movies today, the characters act like today’s 21st century metrosexuals set back in whatever time period the movie is set.

2) No token ultra moral black guy to consistently point out how evil and stupid the white male characters are behaving.

3) The women acted like women of the time. There was no modern empowered super women that seemingly infect every historical movie. I was just waiting for 79lb Rebecca or Nancy McCoy to take on multiple 250+lb Hatfields and easily beat them up, but thankfully it never happened.


36 posted on 06/02/2012 6:01:09 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: cripplecreek
That was only because all four of his sons (and a daughter) had been murdered, his wife clubbed so hard that it damaged her for life (by the bastard that started the whole thing by murdering The McCoy Union solider) and spent the rest of his life in grieving and bitterness.

So I guess he wouldn't have been able to call off the feud.

37 posted on 06/02/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: saganite

I liked the fact that they touched on the civil war being a lot less north vs south than we believe today. As Asa McCoy told Jim Vance, There are as many folks around here fighting for the union as for the confederacy.

Some recent family history has emerged that shows how common the mixed loyalties were. Turns out that my great grandmother’s grandfather and his brother signed up to fight for the union on the same day but the brother never returned north. Her grandfather simply said he’s still living. It appears that he went south with the union and switched sides or remained after the war.


38 posted on 06/02/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I thought it was very entertaining. I’ve saved it and will eventually watch it again. A tremendous tragedy.


39 posted on 06/02/2012 6:07:49 PM PDT by onona (So long Doc Watson, you were an inspiration.)
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To: KC_Lion
Actually, it was a cooking fire.
After the trials, Randall seemed to live a quiet life in Kentucky. He operated a ferry in Pikeville for some time. He died in 1914 from injuries he suffered after falling into a cooking fire. Once a leading player in one of history's most notorious family feuds, McCoy seemed to slip from this world without much notice. He was buried in the Dils Cemetery in Pikeville, Kentucky.
Randall McCoy-Death and Legacy
40 posted on 06/02/2012 6:13:25 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: StormEye
The Pleasant Valley war between Tewksburys and Grahams here in AZ comes to mind. Over 50 men died in it, making the Hatfields and McCoys small potatoes.

Good historical video of the affair here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hekALWtiWm0

41 posted on 06/02/2012 6:14:41 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: All

That show had me at

“I’m prepared to do my duty as your wife, but I ask that you spill your seed outside of me.”


42 posted on 06/02/2012 6:20:29 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I hearing the WW2 channel going have next summer mini series about Vikings that story coming from same dude brough you the Showtime series the TUDORS that be awsome


43 posted on 06/02/2012 6:26:41 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I thought it was a good telling of the story and they got the highlights almost correct. They were liberal with the truth in some of the major situations though...and I wish they had been closer to history.

The election day fight didn't happen quite like that...which is why killing the 3 McCoy boys was so murderous. One of the boys wasn't even there...and didn't show up until the time the other two were rounded up. AND...deacon started it. Everyone was actually getting along but he owed on of them money and wouldn't pay up...and he drew the knife.

The cabin fire: Ellison mounts shot Alifair inside the cabin at Jim Vance's prompting (well...he was actually prompting Cap). And in that fight, Rose Ann was actually in teh cabin with Johnse's and her's son...who was 7 at the time...and Johnse almost shot him. He hit the blanket he was hiding under and it became a Hatfield joke.

And by all accounts...the pig actually did belong to Floyd Hatfield. Randall Stole it and marked it. Floyd stole it back. Said pig was actually in the courtroom during the trial. Randall produced no witnessed and Floyd had numerous witnesses about the pig.

There are other problems...such that Jeff McCoy was shot in the back...but other than that...it was a good show. Good entertainment...but don't take a history test from it.

44 posted on 06/02/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Kid Shelleen
I just finished watching episode 3.

That was one of the most depressing series I have ever seen.

High production values, but the fact that I knew it had been shot in Romania rather than Appalachia gave it a surreal feeling to me.

There was just something wrong with the landscape. Always got the same feeling with Lord of the Rings. The New Zealand landscape looks alien to a midwestern eye.

45 posted on 06/02/2012 6:28:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: al baby

46 posted on 06/02/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: al baby

You realize that she was having babies year in and year out didn’t get a chance to recover it I notice it while I was watch this mini series WOW


47 posted on 06/02/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kid Shelleen
wonder ho many watched it online like i did?
48 posted on 06/02/2012 6:31:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sea Parrot
Don't tell me that all of you missed the excellent documentary on the History Chanel this evening before the rerun of the movie? It was better than the movie to me because it was actually filmed in WV on location where it all took place. The actual historical facts came out. The movie stayed fairly close to the actual events, but there were some changes. Bottom line: the McCoy's predominately fought on the Union side and the Hatfields fought on the South. The whole feud was basically just a continuation of the Civil War.

It became so famous because of the paparazzi from the "civilized" world. It was reported in the papers and caught the attention of people "up East" who had not known that such a place as WV & KY existed. For them it was like looking at tribal warfare in Africa. Intriguing. But the Hatfields or the McCoys were not ignorant people. They were well to do, especially Devil Anse.

49 posted on 06/02/2012 6:33:20 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree with you about the location. The terrain was not WV. That is why I like the documentary so much. Besides some of my re-enacting buddies acted in the documentary. One of them acted in the movie too. Dirty Jim.


50 posted on 06/02/2012 6:37:57 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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