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Itís Beer Thirty FReepers! Time For The Homebrewing / Wine Making Thread #3 June 15,2012
Free Republic | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 06/15/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon/evening FReepers. Yep, it is Beer Thirty Time!

Happiness is a bubbling airlock!

 

GLASS OF MY CRANBERRY MEAD – MELOMEL – HONEY WINE

While we all enjoy a mug or glass of our favorite beer or wine I thought we could discuss the most important ingredient we all need to make our homemade beers or wines.

Yeast

I have used both Wyeast and White Labs liquid yeasts and also dry yeasts mostly Safale 05 and 04 for fermenting my homebrews. I always keep at least one or two of the Safale yeast packs in the fridge as a backup, just incase. Last summer the heat during shipping did in a smack pack of Wyeast I had ordered and the backup dry yeast I had in the fridge saved my beer. If you use the liquid yeasts it is advised you use your supplier’s cold pack shipping option, especially during the warm months. If you don’t have a local homebrew store near you, having a backup yeast supply is essential. I also keep at least 1 lb of Dry Malt Extract around so I can make a yeast starter.

Use a yeast starter

Some experts recommend pitching at least 192 to 200 Billion yeast cells into a five-gallon wort of a medium gravity ale. Higher gravity ales and lagers will require more yeast cells. Both of the liquid yeast brands mentioned above only contain 100 billion cells and the 11.5 gram dry yeast packs of Safale only have 70 billion cells. A yeast starter will boost your cell count to the proper range suggested for a quick start and efficient fermentation and reduce your costs for yeast. Below is a link to why BeerSmith recommends making a starter;

Making a Yeast Starter for your Home Brew Beer

Here are some basic guidelines and instructions, from Midwest Supply:

1. Activate a Wyeast pack and allow it to swell. Wait until the yeast package has swelled to at least 1 inch thick. Or shake up a room temperature White Labs vile. Dry yeast packs just need to be at room temperature.
2. Heat 4 cups water in a saucepan and when hot, dissolve 1 cup Dry Malt Extract (DME) in the water. If you have any yeast nutrient available, you can add ½ tsp to the mix. It’s ok to leave out the nutrient. Lightly boil the wort for 20 minutes. The goal is to create a starter about 1.040 in specific gravity.
3. Sanitize your flask, growler, mason jar etc.
4. When the boil is complete, gently pour the hot wort into the sanitized container. Cover the opening of the flask with aluminum foil. Be careful when doing these steps, use a pot holder to move the flask.
5. Cool the flask in an ice bath. It helps to gently swirl the flask and periodically add ice to the bath to hasten cooling.
6. When the starter wort has cooled to around 70°F (the flask is cool to the touch), shake the flask vigorously to introduce oxygen, and then pitch the yeast. Attach the stopper and airlock.
7. Ferment the starter around 70°F for 24-36 hours for maximum cell growth. Do not expect to see a vigorous fermentation or layer of foam as you would see in a primary fermentation. To increase cell growth, you may wish to agitate the starter periodically to introduce oxygen and remove carbon dioxide. Stir plates are an excellent way to significantly increase the culture’s population. The starter may be refrigerated for up to a week before using, if need be. If refrigerated, allow the yeast to warm up before pitching on brew day.
8. Pitch yeast starter into cooled, aerated wort. Agitate the flask to get the yeast into suspension before pitching. Alternatively, you can drop the yeast by refrigerating the yeast starter for a few hours and decant the fermented starter liquid leaving the yeast cake on the bottom. Add a few ounces of boiled and cooled water and swirl to create a slurry. Then, pitch the slurry into your wort. Some brewers prefer this method to leave the fermented starter wort out of their batch or to do a subsequent, larger starter to generate an appropriate pitching rate for high gravity beers or large.

Another thing I have found helpful especially at bottling time and to help determine if a beer is carbonated. I like to use one PET bottle when bottling. I can squeeze the PET bottle and feel the carbonation level. If it is firm and hard to squeeze, I know it is ready.

I hope this was useful info for some of you. Now let's get brewing! Please let the thread know what yeast you prefer and why and how you use it.


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It is time to crack open a beer or pop a wine cork and enjoy a homemade brew or some wine and this thread.
1 posted on 06/15/2012 3:30:43 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

Ping


2 posted on 06/15/2012 3:31:49 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Just drank beer #1 prior to reading this.

I really am NOT trying to hijack this thread but have you seen this?

I usually like to try all new breweries and believe me, San Diego has a few. But that is one I where I know I will never go.

3 posted on 06/15/2012 3:36:41 PM PDT by South40
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To: Red_Devil 232

I like natural ice. A four pack, and im good to go. Im a cheap date..


4 posted on 06/15/2012 3:41:00 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: South40

Gay brewery?? Ah hell.. this country is going to hell.... homos need to stick with wine. Back off the beer!!!


5 posted on 06/15/2012 3:43:51 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: South40

You can’t really hijack this thread - the posters will take it where it needs to go.

Poor Lori she thinks it is cool

Thanks for the heads up to this brewery’s proclivity. Sounds like a Micro Brewery to avoid.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 3:46:46 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Actually, it's an entire city to avoid.

In one of the strangest ironies I have seen there is a street in that city called "Normal Street". Given that HC is a bastion of perversion, there is nothing 'normal' about it.

7 posted on 06/15/2012 3:53:50 PM PDT by South40
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To: Red_Devil 232; Jay777

Ping


8 posted on 06/15/2012 3:54:52 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: South40

Don’t let anyone push your stool in at that place!


9 posted on 06/15/2012 3:56:48 PM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Wow does that mead look delicious!

I don't believe I'm up for beer tonight. Had 1 too many of my 14%ers last night. Only had 3 but just not thirsty today.

UFC event tomorrow, however. The beer will flow like wine! Like salmon back to Capistrano!

10 posted on 06/15/2012 3:58:00 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: goseminoles

Nothing wrong with that. It is a beer. But a homebrew will beat it hands down.


11 posted on 06/15/2012 3:58:11 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: goseminoles
The owners, though, are not shy about crowing about their new business' gay identity, adopting @QueensofBeer as their Twitter handle. "We are queer and we love beer," reads the description on their Twitter feed.

Just wow.

12 posted on 06/15/2012 3:58:30 PM PDT by South40
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To: Manic_Episode

Understand. I am gravitating back to medium % homebrews the high gravity beers do me in to early. My mead is at 13.5% if I remember correctly. I took the picture in January and drank that glass of Mead. It was nice but a had little alcohol kick to it. When I bottled it a month ago it had mellowed a bit and was getting better. It will age in the bottle until Thanksgiving.


13 posted on 06/15/2012 4:08:43 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Dryman

LOL!

Or any other place!


14 posted on 06/15/2012 4:13:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Do you have a ping list for beer/wine brewers fermenters? Please add me to your ping list.


15 posted on 06/15/2012 4:17:14 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Manic_Episode

I was supposed to brew a Cream Ale this week but I will have to wait until next week. Have all the ingredients, but things came up to make me delay the boil. Drats! I really wanted to keep things moving and the beers flowing.


16 posted on 06/15/2012 4:20:33 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: South40

I bet it tastes like piss.


17 posted on 06/15/2012 4:25:24 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: caver

Yes there is a ping list and you have been added.


18 posted on 06/15/2012 4:25:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Brewing a molasses 'beer' and one that is the same only with added ginger root. They are OLD recipes, but I figured I'd give 'em a try. I was very suprised at the flavor of the wort. It may be pretty good.

/johnny

19 posted on 06/15/2012 4:30:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you much!


20 posted on 06/15/2012 4:32:08 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wahoo! Beer/Wine thread!

I checked our recipe books for fig wine & found nothing (referring back to last week’s thread). However, Jack Keller has a Fig recipe...

http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/reques6.asp

The wine-making book we use actually tries to make a wine from fruit that is less reminiscent of the fruit than a generic grape wine. We’ve gotten in the habit of doubling up on the fruit in the recipes to enhance the fruit flavor. Not sure how fig will turn out but it should be interesting.


21 posted on 06/15/2012 4:33:44 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Could you add me to the list also?


22 posted on 06/15/2012 4:36:04 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Red_Devil 232
Started my latest batch of Hopslam on Monday. Scheduled to bottle on the 29th. Will run out of home brew before then so it will be a great treat to have to buy something to fill the gap.

Always fun trying something new. There are so many I've yet to try.

This is the best time in history to be a beer drinker. So many beers, so little time.

We live in wondrous times.

Life is good =)

23 posted on 06/15/2012 4:37:03 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Twotone

Hey! Thanks for the link to that web page! I would probably make a Mead out of my Figs. Basics are there on the site - why not make the food of the gods into a drink of the gods?


24 posted on 06/15/2012 4:44:15 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’ve wanted to try making a mead. Someday you’ll need to start a mead thread! :-)


25 posted on 06/15/2012 4:48:52 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: KEVLAR

Added. Have a good time. We meet every Friday at Beer Thirty, 5:30 Central.


26 posted on 06/15/2012 4:49:49 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Twotone

You are in the right place for Mead, Beer and Wine already!! come join us. Every Friday at 5:30 central.


27 posted on 06/15/2012 4:54:29 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Want to share that molasses beer recipe? Sounds interesting.


28 posted on 06/15/2012 4:57:01 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

10 year home winemaker and former commercial winemaker here. I would like to be added to the ping list, please! Here’s to happy fermenting!


29 posted on 06/15/2012 4:58:46 PM PDT by GnL
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To: Red_Devil 232
I went to a beer expo in Rochester Minnesota about a month ago and was privileged to try somewhere around 20 beers that day.

This one was my favorite of the event which also won the peoples choice award:

Ommegang

30 posted on 06/15/2012 5:00:57 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Twotone

Mead is easy it just takes time to age. Honey, water and yeast. That is all you need.


31 posted on 06/15/2012 5:03:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
It's stupid simple... 5 oz of UNSULFERED molasses, 4.5 lbs of cane sugar, 18 liters of water, and yeastie beasties pitched when it gets cool.

I was VERY skeptical when I read it. But it was cheap enough to try, and I was very surprised when I tasted it. It's working it's little heart out now and dropped from 8.5% to 7% spec. gravity today.

This may be my hot weather 'beer'.

/johnny

32 posted on 06/15/2012 5:04:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GnL

You are added. I hope you will stop by often and share your wine making knowledge with us.


33 posted on 06/15/2012 5:07:26 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Did the honey take any special preparation? I worked at a university & had an opportunity to talk to someone in the Food Science Department. He indicated that the honey needed pasteurization or something before being used for mead. Been a while & I don’t remember all of the conversation.


34 posted on 06/15/2012 5:18:22 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone
had an opportunity to talk to someone in the Food Science Department.

Never trust anything a cook says unless you run the numbers yourself. ;)

/johnny

35 posted on 06/15/2012 5:22:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Way past time for me to brew again. Just drank the last of my Irish Blonde keg. Many tears and gnashing of teeth.

I have a keezer so I’ve considered another lager. I’ve only done one and it had so much diacytl that it tasted like movie popcorn. Nasty. I was able to clean it up by getting another yeast culture going, raising the temp of the beer, pitch, and let the little yeast-beasties do their clean-up work. It helped a lot, but I didn’t share that beer with friends.


36 posted on 06/15/2012 5:25:11 PM PDT by brewer1516
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To: JRandomFreeper

I seem to remember one of the founding fathers had a molasses beer. Then again, spruce, molasses, corn, heather, were all common. Ya brewed with what was available!


37 posted on 06/15/2012 5:28:54 PM PDT by brewer1516
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To: JRandomFreeper

Did you do a boil with the molasses and sugar? Sounds close to a Mead type of brew with the molasses and amount of sugar replacing the honey in a mead.


38 posted on 06/15/2012 5:29:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: brewer1516

Yep! It does sound interesting, doesn’t it? Like a mead.


39 posted on 06/15/2012 5:37:02 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What kind of yeast?


40 posted on 06/15/2012 5:39:28 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Twotone

Nope my first Mead I used a commercial clover honey. I will use a local filtered honey for my next batch of mead.


41 posted on 06/15/2012 5:44:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I got nine gallons of Jalapeno/Raisin wine in jugs. About 4 weeks and it will be time to bottle.


42 posted on 06/15/2012 5:46:56 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: american_ranger

Whoa Japs and raisin wine? Had a taste yet? Recipe?


43 posted on 06/15/2012 6:01:56 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: brewer1516

I have been trying my best to keep some homebrews ready to drink. But missed my schedule this week. Hate it when I run out of the tasties!


44 posted on 06/15/2012 6:05:44 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I always boil what I brew. Yes, it was required to get the sugar and molasses into solution. Other thing is that I was surprised at the color just 5 oz of molasses gave the brew. And the flavor.

/johnny

45 posted on 06/15/2012 6:08:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The yeast was what I had... trub from a batch or two ago that was in the fridge. Fast yeast, this time of year.

I'm not brewing for competitions. ;)

/johnny

46 posted on 06/15/2012 6:10:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: american_ranger
Sounds good. Here in Texas, there are 'local' oranges from from a long way away that are small and ugly and make great marmalade. I make a jalpeno and native orange marmalade that is to die for.

Jalapenos are so mild this year that I may not can any, unless they pep up.

/johnny

47 posted on 06/15/2012 6:14:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: brewer1516
I've been calling it George. ;)

/johnny

48 posted on 06/15/2012 6:16:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I guess a sub for the molasses could be some Steen’s cane syrup for the molasses it would be a bit stronger though.


49 posted on 06/15/2012 6:17:49 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Could, I suppose. Never had it, so I can't speak to it. I was just researching hot weather 'beers' and came across that in a book from the late 1700s.

Sugar of almost any kind, preferably flavored, water and yeast seem to be the key elements. ;)

Don't get me wrong... I love a harsh IPA in the middle of the hottest August day, but none of the recipes I looked at had hops in them. And I didn't start an IPA back in December when I should have.

/johnny

50 posted on 06/15/2012 6:27:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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