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Texas school staff forced 'smelly, dirty' third-grader to shower, lawsuit says
fox news ^ | 6-17-12

Posted on 06/17/2012 8:29:18 AM PDT by rawhide

FORT WORTH, Texas – The parents of a third-grade boy have sued two Texas school employees, alleging that they forced their son to strip and shower in front of them because he "smelled badly, was dirty and had bad hygiene."

The eight-year-old was singled out last November and taken to the nurse's office at Peaster Elementary School where he was forced to remove his clothes, the suit alleges, the Courthouse News Service reported.

The two school officials then "began violently washing his body with a washcloth, scrubbing him over a large portion of his body, stuck cotton balls in his ears, all while ridiculing and harassing him about being 'dirty,'" the complaint claims.

The child's parents, Amber and Michael Tilley, said they lodged a police report over the incident but no charges were laid.

On Thursday, the Tilleys filed their lawsuit against Peaster Independent School District and Peaster Elementary School employees Julie West and Debbie Van Rite in federal court in Fort Worth.

"It's terrible, and we don't want anything like that to happen to any other children," Amber Tilley told NBC Dallas-Fort Worth.

According to the lawsuit, the incident left the boy "visibly and severely distraught," and he had to see a therapist after.

"He just kept on and on, wanting to take baths," Amber Tilley said. "You know, he just felt so disgusting."

She added that her son did not have a problem with body odour or cleanliness.

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To: Yorlik803

Back in the 70s there was a INDOT worker who bought new work clothes and wore them until absolutely filthy,then tossed them in the trash.

then there was the old batchelor farmer down the road who put soap powder in his clothing pockets and hung the clothes out when it looked like rain!

Bathing can become an issue with people with some illnesses especially if compounded with mental issues.

MOST people feel better and refreshed after a good bath ,but some depressed persons just don’t want to bother bathing,and it is a question if their poor hygiene then leads to them feeling even worse .

A local woman employee of the county HEALTH department here is charged with allowing her own sick,overweight sister to sit in a flithy chair for days,possibly weeks, before calling for help!The physically sick sister died.


21 posted on 06/17/2012 9:26:19 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: rawhide

It would be best if the school officials contracted the kid’s parents and told them he needed to bathe rather than taking it upon themselves. However, we don’t know if the school tried this and failed. I would not be surprised if the parents had “hygiene” issues too.

I work in a rural health clinic. There are a lot of people on welfare who can certainly afford cigarettes and booze but will not buy (or use) soap. Add a little stale cat pi$$ to the mix and it will make you gag. I have informed these types that the next time they come to the clinic I want them to shower and wash their clothes first because their “fragrance” is offensive to the clinic staff and the other patients. Some of them are OK with that and others get real uppity. Pigs.


22 posted on 06/17/2012 9:27:23 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: pepsionice

I remember a family canoeing trip. One of our sons wouldn’t bath in the river. He had gotten to the age where that was a problem. So we ambushed him, tipped him out of the canoe and I had the soap ready. I had forgotten that. On a hiking trip, perhaps afraid we would do that again, he stripped down and skinny dipped in a mountain stream, dancing around. Sadly, no camera.


23 posted on 06/17/2012 9:27:55 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: Java4Jay

Bingo. Of all the posts you have the correct response. The student
has the right to personal privacy, period. Assuming the story is
complete the school employees should have contacted the parents
and told them to come and pick-up their kid. If that failed then
social services should have been contacted. The child’s condition
might be indicative of some other serious issues taking place in
the home.


24 posted on 06/17/2012 9:28:08 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: rawhide
Filthy dirty children were a regular occurrence in the school system were my wife worked. Kids who arrived at school encrusted with their own filth, or who hadn't brushed their teeth in weeks, were sent home. Problem solved. Usually, a “parent” would shove them out of a $50K SUV early in the morning for the free breakfast program. Wouldn't see them again until it was time to pick them up from the free after school day care program, and drive through Micky-D’s for dinner in a sack. Toss them in front of a TV. “Parenting” done.
25 posted on 06/17/2012 9:28:23 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: mountn man

There was a kid in my sister’s high school who stunk to high heaven. They took to leaving sticks of deodorant on his desk before he got to class, as a not-so-subtle hint. Sometimes a little ridicule can go a long way.


26 posted on 06/17/2012 9:28:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: davius
Every now and again we get an inmate who believes they have a constitutional right not to shower.
Is it constitutional right not to shower, or constitutional right not to get forcibly raped... and they think staying dirty might protect them [because the system won't]?

Just asking.

27 posted on 06/17/2012 9:56:48 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: samtheman

At my last Air Force Station in southern Italy, all E-4s and below had to pull KP for five days at a crack, usually when the flight was on mids. While I showered after every KP shift, I (and a lot of other guys) wore the same set of fatigues every day. On day five, I could whistle and my fatigues would come walking over to me


28 posted on 06/17/2012 10:09:19 AM PDT by Ax (You've got to hand it to Venus de Milo.)
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To: pepsionice
In basic training...we had a guy... absolutely didn’t take a shower.

My father had the same problem with a guy in his unit that refused to bath. Before they were shipped to Korea and not wishing to spend the whole voyage in close quarters with their "Stinky," some of the boys ganged up on him and with "Stinky," kicking and screaming, gave him a "dry scrub" bath.(Soap, an brush but no water)

They scrubbed not only the filth off but a couple of layers of skin as well.

Pop used to get a chuckled out of that story and it was used as an a reminder for us boys if we scrimped on the soap and water..
29 posted on 06/17/2012 10:14:42 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: rawhide
I have a hard time believing the teachers took a clean bright shiny kid and cleaned him up...

Having lived in FT Worth for 15 years I have meet many ignorant redneck white trash who think nothing of letting their brood run around half naked filthy half starved

30 posted on 06/17/2012 10:20:58 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Mercat
...stripped down and skinny dipped in a mountain stream, dancing around. Sadly, no camera.

Hahhaha. Did the same when we camping in the Smokey Mountains..

Bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Memories..memories!!!
31 posted on 06/17/2012 10:22:00 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: Ax

I had a hospitalman in the Navy who liked to show up to work 12hr shifts on the wards at Naval Hospital Jacksonville, FL, without taking a bath. After several complaints from patients, my CPO and I had a heart to heart talk with the guy. He agreed to bathe, and went on to do so, every day thereafter...

...Until he went to Fleet Marine Force (FMF) training with a Marine rifle company. Many nights they spent in barracks, so there was no excuse to not bathe. However, I guess he decided to revert to form.

The Marines were none too pleased, and proceeded to essentially keel haul his ass with soap and water.

When he returned to NH Jacksonville, he bathed EVERY day ....


32 posted on 06/17/2012 11:13:25 AM PDT by Levante
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To: RedMonqey

This reminds me of a canoe trip I took in the Quebec wilderness a number of years ago. We’d all been paddling and portaging for about four days without time to bathe and all smelled and felt horrible. There were 11 of us, 6 men and 5 women. We finally got into camp early one evening and ALL OF US WANTED AND NEEDED TO BATHE. Unfortunately, we had only so much time and one beach. Modesty suddenly vanished. We all went in buck naked and bathed together.


33 posted on 06/17/2012 11:20:13 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Pikachu_Dad

There are also children who have accidents and have no other options. If he’s having accidents in his pants on the bus or not wiping his bottom, he may be stinky even if he was clean when leaving home.
If he’s in third grade, there isn’t the same level of forgiveness as a kindergartener, but one has to wonder WHY he’s stinking so much.


34 posted on 06/17/2012 11:32:01 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Pikachu_Dad

...Or, more likely, the teachers involved may have been bullying skanks.


35 posted on 06/17/2012 11:32:19 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: pepsionice

I worked for Coopers & Lybrand in the early 70s. (One of the largest international CPA/consulting firms.) We shared offices with between two and four people. We had a guy we actually called “Stinky” with whom no one wanted to share office space.

Even after being counseled, he just wouldn’t bath. He really did reek! Never could understand how a well educated white kid could not understand about hygiene!?

You’d think that a guy, after discovering women, would try to put together then most desirable package. Maybe we should have “found” him a girlfriend?!


36 posted on 06/17/2012 11:32:34 AM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: libstripper
There were 11 of us, 6 men and 5 women...Modesty suddenly vanished. We all went in buck naked and bathed together....

I guess it is needlessly to ask if any thoughts of the romancatic nature ended as each hit the cold water ?
37 posted on 06/17/2012 11:44:48 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: samtheman
No, it's the right to stink that's in question. This is a jail and they have individual showers. If they ever tried to double up in the shower, they'd have a CERT (Cell Extraction Response Team) on them before they rinsed.

No contraband
No escape
No sex
Everybody goes home alive.
38 posted on 06/17/2012 11:46:45 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: rawhide

I have a teacher friend in the local area who advises kids don’t have to shower after gym/PE classes anymore due to modesty concerns.

He says that for some that have gym/PE early in the day, the classroom can become a ripe experience for all and, of course, nothing can be said for fear of offending the smelly kid.


39 posted on 06/17/2012 11:51:43 AM PDT by Skybird
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To: tbw2
If he’s having accidents in his pants on the bus or not wiping his bottom, he may be stinky even if he was clean when leaving home.

I know people are shaking their heads at the possibility of a third grader not knowing how to cleanse themselves after toiletry but a few years ago a friend told me her nephew of did not do so into high school. It came to her attention because the uncleanliness had caused cysts on his bottom and the inflection spread into neighboring tissue up to his scrotum, resulting in several surgeries and skin grafts(including a temporary colostomy)

How his mother didn't realize this her aunt had no idea.
40 posted on 06/17/2012 11:58:36 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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