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Need help from all the Kitty people

Posted on 06/18/2012 6:08:35 AM PDT by RoadGumby

Hello all,

I am hoping to hear from all the cat lovers here on Freep.

I am the new owner of a kitten that has some deformities from birth.

Her front paws are not fully formed and lack any claws at all. This is the best of her deformities.

On the other end, she is lacking her back feet. She has her upper thigh (Femur?) and then the next bone(s) that would be the same as our Tibia and Fibia. And that is all.

She is about 4 weeks old and was brought into the animal clinic my wife works at. They were going to put her down, but we decided (even though we already have 7 cats) to take her in and give her a chance.

What I need is information and or resources to use to figure out how to help her. She does try to walk and get around, but has obvious traction problems. The BIGGEST hurdle I see is getting her litter box trained.

We have named her Grace.

Any help information wise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: cat; disabledpet; kitten; pets
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1 posted on 06/18/2012 6:08:40 AM PDT by RoadGumby
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To: RoadGumby

As a cat person, I just want to say God bless you for trying to help this little creature.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 6:15:46 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: RoadGumby; Slings and Arrows

Kitty ping


3 posted on 06/18/2012 6:17:37 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: RoadGumby

I once had a cat a missing front leg and a missing eye. He was caught in a trap.

He was able to use the litter box, but unable to cover up his poop afterward. It wasn’t a big deal. As far as the mobility, she’ll either learn to walk on what she has, which is certainly possible, or live a sedentary life. It is what it is.

My immediate concern would be whether any internal organs are similarly unformed, especially the heart. What you see on the outside may be a reflection of what is going on on the inside.


4 posted on 06/18/2012 6:17:47 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: RoadGumby
It seems she may have an issue climbing over the lip of the litter box. Maybe get one like the igloo litter boxes that has a little ramp they go up, then use a dremel to carve out the little lip so she doesn't have to climb over it. It is deep enough, losing that shouldn't case any spill over.


5 posted on 06/18/2012 6:18:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: keats5
My immediate concern would be whether any internal organs are similarly unformed, especially the heart. What you see on the outside may be a reflection of what is going on on the inside.

Cat scan Stat.

6 posted on 06/18/2012 6:19:54 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: RoadGumby

We have a cat that we love. However, given your situation, I would put the cat to sleep.

I shall now duck my head and incur the wrath of cat lovers who think cats are no different than humans.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 6:20:28 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: RoadGumby

I just googled this site. Maybe it will help.

HandicapPets.Com

Products, services and support for special needs pets

http://www.handicappedpets.com/

If You Care for an Older, Injured, or Disabled Pet, You Have Come to the Right Place! A Dog Wheelchair & the 250+ Pet Health products will make them mobile again ready to Play & get the Exercise for a more Happy & Healthy Life.

Help & Support Community


8 posted on 06/18/2012 6:23:14 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: RoadGumby

It can be done. Meet Gracie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKPp4j-YQ00

Amelio’s humans got him a little cart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCyCvwGdAQU&feature=related

Remember, cats are amazing athletes and this little kitty will have the ability to motivate, some way, some how. As for litter training, perhaps a modified, shorter-walled box would help her learn.


9 posted on 06/18/2012 6:23:29 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: RoadGumby; TheOldLady

I think we have our new Viking Kitty.


10 posted on 06/18/2012 6:26:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: GQuagmire; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; asgardshill; ...
Contact Best Friends in Utah. They have lots of experience with special-needs animals.


11 posted on 06/18/2012 6:28:46 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: RoadGumby

This site might help.

http://www.messybeast.com/disabled.htm


12 posted on 06/18/2012 6:34:01 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: RoadGumby

Animals have a way of quickly, and Gracefully, adapting to any inadequacy they have.


13 posted on 06/18/2012 6:43:03 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Give the kitten a chance and see how it progresses.
I agree with you about the possibility of the kitten being put to sleep.No shame in that.
I’ve had to do the same with my cats.
Heartbreaking no matter what.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: RoadGumby

Lots of good ideas here already. As a volunteer with the ASPCA, I recommend a phone call to them or even bring the little one into the shelter to get immediate advice. We have lots of deformed and disabled cats at the ASPCA. They are not euthanized, they are given away to people to care for them. People like you! Good luck.


15 posted on 06/18/2012 6:46:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SeaHawkFan

Actually, I’m a cat lover too and that was my thought.


16 posted on 06/18/2012 6:47:39 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: RoadGumby

We had an orange tabby named Grace. She lived about 10 years. Her sister, Griffey, lived 16 years (until just last year). We always name our cats, always fixed-females, after baseball players.
I’m not making a particular point — just that I like cats, plus a tidbit FWIW.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 6:49:35 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: RoadGumby

Bless you for trying to save the kitten.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 6:54:52 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: RoadGumby
We have a kitty with front flippers -- no long bones in front legs. He's 20 and still going strong. Low mileage, you know. Yes, traction problems, but so sweet. Will take patience on your part. Bless your kindness.
19 posted on 06/18/2012 6:55:41 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Smokeyblue

There is a man on ebay who makes and sells the pet carts at a deeply discounted rate. He is doing it because he needed one for his pet and couldn’t afford what was being offered so he started a foundation and began making affordable pet carts for handicapped pets. Should be easy to find.

Much luck and many blessings to you and yours.


20 posted on 06/18/2012 6:56:12 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: RoadGumby

As a cat lover and animal lover I think the kindest thing you can do for that little kitten is to humanely put it to sleep.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RoadGumby

This thread is one of the reasons I love the FR community.

Just sayin’.


22 posted on 06/18/2012 7:12:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: RoadGumby

My first thought was that cats are very adaptable. They will find a way to get around, even if they are severely handicapped.

You’re an angel for saving this one, and she will grow and learn to move and to use the box. I bet she is a delightful pet for you for many years, assuming her missing her paws is her only physical problem.

May God bless her and you and your family.


23 posted on 06/18/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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For the litter problem, see if you can get a doggie litter pan. I have two. I got them for my elderly cats when they had troubles getting in and out of the litter box. They are kind of big..One I have has low sides and a wide opening and makes a great bed for an elderly cat. The other has higher sides and a shorter but low opening that I used for the litter.

As a side note, I just adopted two kittens, one was injured. Some jerk drove by Animal Services and from a speeding truck threw a box onto the property. Someone stopped and thankfully checked it out to find 4 tiny kittens. The litter was brought to the Pet ER and one kittend did not survive, the others were ok but one had damage to the ligaments to the left rear leg..All kittens are fine but with my tiny injured one, we have some litter problems too...she is a lot smaller than her sister..Last Fri Xena The Warrior Princess was 4 lbs and her sister little Gabrielle was 2.8..and Gabrielle will leave littel “ tootsie rolls” now and then as she goes...I have yet to figure this out...she eats like a truck driver yet is so small..has been to the vet and tested for everything and is thriving but this little poopy balls...gotta stop..so anyone got ideas about that to piggy back on this general topic?

I also had a 3 legged black cat, Mocha ( meaning one without a limb in Spanish) and she got around just fine and lived to be 25.


24 posted on 06/18/2012 8:19:42 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: mnehring

I have this litter box and my cats, Ebonie and Cookie would not use it...I have turned it into a little condo for my kittens.


25 posted on 06/18/2012 8:21:02 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: RoadGumby
My honey and I would buy the cat prosthetics after a full pet scan. Yet. I am sure with the resources and support posted here this little guy or gal will find a way without prosthetics (unless donated as most could not or would not do this.)

Remember all the kitty has to ultimately do is eat, drink, sleep, play, and cuddle.

SHe doesn't need to cover a lot of territory to do all of this. She doesn't know she is supposed to have all these things that you stated. So she'll find some new way.

The only real concern ultimately is her finding a way to cover some territory to do the above things.

Special needs kitty who is loved :-).

She may be walking challenged, but not love challenged. :).

Maybe one day we'll see the kitty in the cat Special Olympics and she'll win a gold. GOd bless you and your family and God bless this little fur ball.

26 posted on 06/18/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: celtic gal

I also have this box. We call it the Magic box, lol. Have a diabetic kitty that was having accidents. He loves this thing. Not one accident since we got it for him.

Good luck with the baby.


27 posted on 06/18/2012 8:30:24 AM PDT by TexasBeth
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To: TexasBeth
What a kind thing to do. Bless everyone for being kind to animals. Yes, they do adapt. I've had birds with foot injuries and they do adapt.
28 posted on 06/18/2012 8:42:48 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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29 posted on 06/18/2012 8:49:44 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: RoadGumby
Wow. You have taken on a tough assignment. God Bless you! I have a friend with a deformed cat. They decided to let her live. She is an inspiration to them. As far as she is concerned she is normal and gets around fine. She is, however, an out door kitty because of the litter box issue.

As for the mobility issue, there are little "carts" to put the back end in so the front legs can pull the body along. I don't know who makes them but I have seen something about them just recently. Good luck.

30 posted on 06/18/2012 10:44:34 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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Good for you on giving her a chance. As long as she’s not in pain, I don’t think you should put her down. Animals are a lot more adaptable than humans at times. I don’t have any advice on how to help her, but I encourage you to keep her and love her. If other medical problems surface that you don’t know about, it may be taken out of your hands or you may have to make that decision, but until then, let her live.

This cat has a different problem, but he was going to be put down too. He’s now an older, adult cat that made it into the Guinness Book of World Records:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/two-faced-cat-frank-and-louie-guinness-book-records


31 posted on 06/18/2012 12:15:30 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: pabianice

Wow! That’s old for any kitty. You should post a pic.


32 posted on 06/18/2012 12:20:22 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: TexasBeth

Oh, maybe if I put some litter in it, Gabrielle will start to use it....maybe her sister bugs her, you know wanting to know what she is doing....pestering her...will give it a try and if it doesn’t work then back to kitty condo.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 4:14:36 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: RoadGumby

If you have time could you keep us posted on your sweet baby. I know a picture is asking too much (and would be great) but an update would be awesome. I do hope you keep your new sweetie.


34 posted on 06/18/2012 5:01:55 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: RoadGumby

Have you named the cat stumpy??


35 posted on 06/18/2012 5:12:48 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: RoadGumby

God Bless you and all those who have given such caring advice.

Given your love and shelter, Mocha should adapt well to herself as she is.

Only thing that could make you help her otherwise is if any of your other cats pick on the little one. Then you may want to get her a rocket pack or a weapon. ;-)


36 posted on 06/18/2012 6:08:00 PM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: patriot08; Lady Jag; keats5; goseminoles; Smokeyblue; GOP Poet; mnehring; celtic gal; SeaHawkFan; ..

Thank you all so much for all your replies and help.

Grace is still with us, hanging in there. Being already ~ 4 weeks old, obviously ‘viable’, we made the call to give her a chance.

Our biggest struggle so far has been getting her to defecate. We guess that she (and her litter-mates?) had been ready for momma to wean and she had taken them out for a hunt that grace was not able to keep up with.

She eats, but hasn’t seemed to develop the ‘taste for’ canned cat food, so we assist her in eating, though she does at times chow down a little bit. We are giving supplements as well as mineral oil to help with elimination.

She does get around, though the linoleum and hardwood floors don’t give her much traction.

Most of our 7 other cats have become accustomed to her, with the kittens and our other mildly disabled cat being the friendliest.

Having said all that, we are still not sure of her long term health. It truly IS a day to day thing. We have no impression of pain from her. She’ll sit with us and purr, she has even tried playing a bit, swatting at our fingertips.

She spends the day with my wife at her job at the vet clinic, lots of help and loving there. We both know that, ultimately, it may be necessary to put her to sleep. But that will rest entierly on her not us.

I’ll post again with more news as it comes. Thanks agin to you all.

Oh, one poster ‘ducked’ from the ‘flames’ of those that feel that ‘cats (or animals) are just as important as people.” They aren’t. But it is a measure of a person, IMHO, by how much compassion is shown, both to people and/or animals. It seemed very wrong to entertain the idea of killing her just because she wasn’t ‘normal’.

Ultimately, IF she gives up, then that will be the way of it. But IF she desires to live, and thrives, then she will have a place for as long as she lives.


37 posted on 06/21/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

Have you tried stimulating her rectum like her mother would have?

Prayers for the kitten and blessing to you.


38 posted on 06/21/2012 7:57:11 AM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: RoadGumby

Lovely post. Please keep us updated on your sweet kitty’s progress.

Yesterday, at my volunteer shelter, a kind woman adopted a kitten that had no eyelids. So the poor little thing didn’t even have the cuteness of a tiny baby cat. But she was taken home anyway!


39 posted on 06/21/2012 8:00:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Lady Jag

Oh, yes, having fostered several litters of kittens (the latest being literally 1 day old), we are very familiar with the ‘butt-rubbing’ necessary to get a kitten to go.


40 posted on 06/21/2012 8:21:38 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

God bless little Grace and her caring kitty parents!


41 posted on 06/21/2012 9:39:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: RoadGumby

God bless you!


42 posted on 06/21/2012 10:18:23 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: RoadGumby; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; asgardshill; ...
Grace update!

BTW, legless cats can survive and thrive. Case in point.


43 posted on 06/21/2012 10:51:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Lady Jag; RoadGumby
Not exactly like her mother would, I think. ;^)
44 posted on 06/21/2012 10:54:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The operative word is ‘rubbing’. :^)


45 posted on 06/21/2012 12:24:33 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

*chuckle* I was just funnin’ ya.


46 posted on 06/21/2012 12:26:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: RoadGumby; Slings and Arrows

http://www.bestfriends.org/index.htm

I volunteered there on several vacations. They have *lots* of special needs kitties.


47 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:23 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: miss marmelstein

I *knew* there’s a reason that I like you!


48 posted on 06/21/2012 3:40:49 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: martin_fierro

Precious!


49 posted on 06/21/2012 3:44:45 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

Like you too!


50 posted on 06/21/2012 5:45:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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