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Would you want to survive the end of civilization?
IO9 ^ | July 2, 2012 | ith Veronese

Posted on 07/02/2012 3:12:30 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Would you want to survive the end of civilization?

Lord Humungus

Let's say the end of the world as we know it is coming — but someone offers you a priceless spot in their guaranteed-to-be-safe bunker, so you can be one of the chosen few who rebuilds the Earth. Would you want to survive, and emerge into the post-apocalyptic wasteland? Would the positives of playing a role in a new society outweigh the loss of creature comforts? Or would you rather just go out with the majority of the human race? I wouldn't last long in a Mad Max-style world — the most complex thing I can do to my car is replace its refrigerant. I'd probably die in the first couple of months — or once my glasses broke, whichever came first.

But what if the new world resembled ours, just a little more rugged and difficult? Would you enjoy the opportunity to rebuild society? Here are a few of the positives and negatives associated with a civilization changing event to help you decide.

The Negatives

Your new world lacks the creature comforts of today - no electricity, no communication, no instant access to a plethora of information. Hell, the information that lies in your head likely carries little value.

If you have read any of the 99 issues of Robert Kirkman's The Walking Dead, you know that surviving in a new world with few skills amidst packs of zombies and dangerous people is no way to live. Thankfully, the end of the world as we know it probably wouldn't include flesh-eating zombies. The end of civilization, however, would bring with it a lack of communication, resources, and lead to immense amounts of unbearable drama, due to fear, hunger, and power grabs.

Do you want to live in a situation where every day includes a dangerous search for food, your nights involve defensive formations to protect those in your community, and you never know what the next moment will bring?

This type of vicious world definitely has its extremes. The bad times would cease over time as groups of people join together to reform civilization, but he birth pains of this new civilization will be severe. Would you want a part in the new world?

The Positives

What if the end of civilization leaves you in a reasonably safe place, amongst family and friends? The television show Jericho explored such a scenario. An independent community relied on itself to survive, with scant information about the outside world. In this case, it might be fun to start things over — maintain a background set of laws to maintain order, but re-create society in your image. This view might be a tad bit on the optimistic side, but it's a possibility.

Your new life will lack a number of the meaningless stresses of today — no e-mail to check, no presentations to give, no centuries old baggage stemming from geopolitical conflicts. The slate is wiped clean — why not take advantage of the positives inherent in a second chance?

Your Decision

Would you want to survive a devastating event that turns society on its head? The role you play in the rebuilding process might be a large one — how do you weigh the pros and cons?


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1959 ... 'Time Enough at Last'

Would I want to survive the end of civilization? YES! Then, I would have time enough at last.

1 posted on 07/02/2012 3:12:33 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: Eaker

Oy, some folks been practicing for years. True story.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 3:16:28 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Would you want to survive the end of civilization?
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Depends on what the women will look like and how many there are.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 3:17:15 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: DogByte6RER

No medicine. Ugh.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 3:21:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: mamelukesabre
Would you want to survive the end of civilization?

I already did: Detroit riots 1967. M1Garands, Remington 870's, .357's, ammo and pasta served us well.

5 posted on 07/02/2012 3:21:57 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yes. For starters out of shear curiosity. Secondly, I’ve read enought post-Armageddon/Apocalypse books to know how to cope, at least for awhile.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 3:22:49 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: DogByte6RER

If I can burn across the searing wasteland in the last of the V-8 Interceptors, then I’m in.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 3:23:13 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: DogByte6RER
Pia Zadora's DVD's.
8 posted on 07/02/2012 3:23:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I would only be interested in staying if there was a reset of reality back to the times of eden before the fall of man.
I think at the end of civilization there is a window to exercise new faith, producing a new reality, to simply start the circle of the fallen reality again would not fulfill me...Now if food would appear when hungry, and there was no death, pain and fear, and sin, and the wasteland was reformed through a process of remelting the earth and turning it inside out..Ok..I’ll hang..Come Lord..


9 posted on 07/02/2012 3:23:25 PM PDT by aces
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To: mamelukesabre
Depends on what the women will look like and how many there are.

What we want:

What we'll probably end up with:


10 posted on 07/02/2012 3:24:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: humblegunner

>>Oy, some folks been practicing for years. True story.<<

I look forward to those Preparedness threads — they crack me up.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 3:26:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: DogByte6RER
I kind of wondered why all those characters on Lost were so keen to get back to civilization.
12 posted on 07/02/2012 3:27:13 PM PDT by x
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To: DogByte6RER

It would probably mean a reduction in leisure time, so no.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 3:27:36 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: freedumb2003

then kill me now


14 posted on 07/02/2012 3:28:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: DogByte6RER
Would the bunker be homogeneous or multi cultural? Not saying which I'd prefer, just asking.

15 posted on 07/02/2012 3:28:34 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Civilization doesn't end. It changes hands.

/johnny

16 posted on 07/02/2012 3:32:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DogByte6RER

17 posted on 07/02/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JRandomFreeper
"Civilization doesn't end. It changes hands."

Tell that to the Dinosaurs.

18 posted on 07/02/2012 3:37:14 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: DogByte6RER
I'd take over Yosemite's Ahwahnee Hotel.

Anyone coming up CA SR-140 will find a few human-caused landslides, I think.

19 posted on 07/02/2012 3:37:52 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: DogByte6RER

A bookish man.
“there was time.....”


20 posted on 07/02/2012 3:40:35 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (Is there no balm in Gilead?....MiE (Mainer in Exile))
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is an incredibly insightful statement. I’m going to use that sometime.

Thanks.


21 posted on 07/02/2012 3:40:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A bookish man.
“there was time.....”


22 posted on 07/02/2012 3:41:22 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (Is there no balm in Gilead?....MiE (Mainer in Exile))
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To: DogByte6RER

23 posted on 07/02/2012 3:42:41 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: freedumb2003
Re: “What we'll probably end up with...”

Hey, that lady has definitely solved the end-of-times food struggle.

24 posted on 07/02/2012 3:42:52 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: NoLibZone

Hooray for Santa Claus!

(I think I saw this on TV a few months ago)


25 posted on 07/02/2012 3:44:39 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: discostu; Lazamataz
It would probably mean a reduction in leisure time, so no.

Can you imagine a world without FR? Or maybe John can come up with something a'la the Professor

The post-apocalyptic FR server farm:

The power source (n00bs pressed into service):

The reason why n00bs provide the power:

Someone gets ZOTted:

Reporting to the AM:

OTOH, nothing changes for Laz:

Including his old lady:


26 posted on 07/02/2012 3:45:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: DogByte6RER

I don’t know how much “fun” it would be but the Jericho scenario would be tolerable. What I imagine is in store for us will look more like “The Road”.

No thanks.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 3:45:30 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
I've never read books written by dinosaurs.

Human civilization, historically doesn't end. It changes hands and the center of power moves. Rome to Byzantium to Europe to the US to China.

Get used to it.

/johnny

28 posted on 07/02/2012 3:45:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: John Robinson

Ping to a comparison between you and The Professor... :)


29 posted on 07/02/2012 3:45:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: Lurker
Cooks are well known for piling stuff deep. ;)

/johnny

30 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mamelukesabre

With my luck the only survivors would be myself and Rachel Maddow, Roseanne or Michelle Obama.

Better to go the easy way.


31 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: The KG9 Kid

lol, good for you I love that place. disney has a copy at calif adventure


32 posted on 07/02/2012 3:48:38 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: DogByte6RER
Would you want to survive the end of civilization?

We've murdered or played a part in the murder of approximately 1 billion unborn, partially born or post born infants worldwide since Roe vs Wade. God only knows how many people worldwide were killed in wars or simply murdered at the hands of another during the past century alone. We have same sex marriage, euthanasia of the elderly, and even bestiality allowed in our military. Most of our political and corporate leaders are greedy liars, outrageously corrupt and are suicidally destroying what little is left of our current society.

IMO, if you're reading this, you've already survived "the end of civilization".

But no doubt the tribulation will get far worse - then the second coming heralds the beginning of new age, vastly superior to the old. The Bible promises that untold multitudes will make the translation. I hope to see that day!

33 posted on 07/02/2012 3:49:26 PM PDT by Errant
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To: DogByte6RER

Only long enough to cross a few names off my list.


34 posted on 07/02/2012 3:51:03 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: zeestephen

Yes - food won.


35 posted on 07/02/2012 4:01:10 PM PDT by Noumenon (“Be happy in your work!” - Colonel Saito: The Bridge on the River Kwai)
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To: DogByte6RER
The bad news: As a type 1 diabetic, I wouldn't be around too long after the end of civilization. It would depend on whether I could raid a drugstore or two and then, after that expired, find some pigs, or however they used to get insulin.

The good news: I would be a good candidate for high-risk/suicide missions, if the need arose.

36 posted on 07/02/2012 4:02:58 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: Krankor
Panic in the Year Zero.

I was very disappointed at what my 25 cents bought me on the Saturday afternoon I went to see that film. Ray Milan is really not much of an action hero.

37 posted on 07/02/2012 4:05:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When you find yourself arguing against Scalia and Thomas, you AREN'T a conservative.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Make sure to stock up on eyeglasses.


38 posted on 07/02/2012 4:07:18 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When you find yourself arguing against Scalia and Thomas, you AREN'T a conservative.)
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To: Errant

Don’t the Christians say the world will be destroyed by fire? If so, what kind?


39 posted on 07/02/2012 4:09:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DogByte6RER

“Would I want to survive the end of civilization??”

Noah did, along with his family - eight total, plus the animals. We are all here because he and those with him survived.

Now, I suggest we survive on our terms...not ending civilization, but doing so as our Founding Fathers did it...to whatever extent necessary to do so.

May God be with us, as He was with Noah, and as He was with our Founders.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 4:13:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: freedumb2003
Finally, in pictures, a sensible answer to the age old question: "Ginger, or Mary Ann?"

Why not both?

Ending civilization seems a small price to pay...

41 posted on 07/02/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When you find yourself arguing against Scalia and Thomas, you AREN'T a conservative.)
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To: DogByte6RER
It all depends. Will there be steak sauce?

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42 posted on 07/02/2012 4:16:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: FredZarguna
Ray Milan is really not much of an action hero.

Whadya mean? He beat up John Wayne! Click Later he beat up a giant squid- or at least fought one.
43 posted on 07/02/2012 4:17:24 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Venturer

“With my luck the only survivors would be myself and Rachel Maddow, Roseanne or Michelle Obama.”

I will keep my XD-45 and several full mags just in case...or maybe the roll of the dice will give us Raquel, Jenna, and that ‘girl next door’...


44 posted on 07/02/2012 4:20:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: DogByte6RER

There is a great book on the end of civilization called THE EARTH ABIDES written in the 40s. Worthwhile read. Spans generations. Not a zombie book. Thoughtful.


45 posted on 07/02/2012 4:24:11 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: freedumb2003

Hey, she’s sturdy, she can carry lots of firewood.


46 posted on 07/02/2012 4:25:32 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: humblegunner

Sounds like Huffman, TX.


47 posted on 07/02/2012 4:26:34 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine
No, God said that the world would be destroyed by fire, not Christians per say.

I interpret the actual destruction of the world by fire coming many millennia after the second coming of Christ.

As for a description of the end of the thousand year period ( and these could be interpreted as prophetic years ) AFTER the second coming of Christ, start here: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20&version=KJV

48 posted on 07/02/2012 4:28:01 PM PDT by Errant
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To: F15Eagle
Hooray for Santa Claus!

The opening song for this movie is actually pretty damn good
Click
49 posted on 07/02/2012 4:28:22 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Chickensoup

I loved that book.


50 posted on 07/02/2012 4:32:08 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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