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Does a Man Ever Truly Stop Loving His Ex-Wife?
Dail Mail ^ | 6 July 2012 | Sandra Howard

Posted on 07/06/2012 8:04:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway

SANDRA HOWARD asks the question that unsettles every woman whose husband is divorced

Years after their divorce, Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner remained deeply in love. I saw for myself how abiding their mutual affection was when, one evening, more than a decade after they had separated, I joined them for supper.

Frank and Ava, the great crooner and the Hollywood star, were dining quietly in an unassuming New York restaurant and my first husband, jazz pianist Robin Douglas-Home, and I had been invited, too.

Frank and Robin had forged a friendship over a biography he had been writing of Sinatra. I was modelling for the Eileen Ford agency in New York at the time. It was 1962, a full five years after Frank and Ava had divorced when the four of us enjoyed that modest meal together. Yet what endures in my memory is the palpable chemistry that still existed between the singer and the actress.

Although he was married four times, Frank’s one great love remained Ava, and vice versa. I recall how they sat close together on a bench seat in that restaurant all evening, his arm draped around her shoulder, a proprietorial smile of pride on his face.

She was sinuous and elegant in a classic black dress: Frank once said she had the ‘easy grace of a tigress’. Although their marriage had been volatile, their love for each other never faltered. Ava, in fact, never married again. But Frank did: twice more in fact, and I have often wondered whether Ava’s successor, the waif-like actress Mia Farrow, felt undermined by the potent attraction Ol’ Blue Eyes felt for her beautiful predecessor.

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To: ConservativeMind

I agree completely.

I know a man who was married briefly in college. She married him so her parents wouldn’t find out they were living together. All wrong, brief, over before it started.
He remarried, three sons, happy life for nearly 20 years.
An opportunity came to be in her town...he wanted to know how she was doing.
We live in a world of staggering heartache, pain, and oh the unintended consequences!
I’ve been thinking, what’s the big deal about destroying our Constituton when we mock the Bible and the God it is based on? We mock the only solution to our misery.

61 posted on 07/07/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: nickcarraway


62 posted on 07/07/2012 4:35:19 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: nickcarraway

For sure!

63 posted on 07/07/2012 4:43:26 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: WestwardHo

“I don’t believe there
really is such a thing as divorce.”

There isn’t. It is right there in the verse: “What God has joined let no man put asunder”.

64 posted on 07/07/2012 5:00:34 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Hoodat

Nice story of forgiveness. Step one in getting out of bitterness is to admit I am not willing to forgive. Step two should be that I am willing to become willing to forgive. God, I need to get to a place that seems impossible today.

65 posted on 07/07/2012 5:12:04 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (A good woman brings out the best in a good man! A better woman might be just what this nation needs)
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To: nickcarraway

I married the ultimate bachelor, the one with all the big boy toys, the one who had the admiration and envy of all the men on the block who secretly wished they were as free as he was.

We met and three dates later, I moved in and we got married shortly afterwards.

I have friends in miserable, unhappy marriages, merely existing in life, each of the spouses staying just because there are children. It always feels so empty and sad in their houses -sometimes mixed with an undercurrent of resentment and hatred.

In order for there to be a successful relationship, each party needs to give 100%. We don’t have children so this is much easier for us than for couples who do. Also, as I have probably stated before, there is no women’s lib in this house. If I am further than 10 feet from the bedroom or kitchen, call me a runaway.

In a previous relationship, my boyfriend gave maybe 5% while sucking out and stomping my 100%, angry there wasn’t more for me to give. I could have been in the same boat as my friends if I had given in and married him

In my marriage- the first for both of us-there is complete unselfishness and total respect. We think so much alike and have never had an argument. If there is something we don’t agree on, it is taken to heart and prayed about. Ultimately, we have the same goals. We both chose well and are well suited for each other.

My husband is the love of my life, it is truly a Holy Matrimony. If he needed a heart transplant, I would give him mine. I couldn’t see living without him and would gratefully give my life to be with him one just more second.

I will love him until I take my last breath.

66 posted on 07/07/2012 5:12:09 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: nickcarraway

Uh, if she walks out on him with no warning, tries to take half his retirement pay after only seven yrs of marriage, no kids and put her through school then after divorce, sends him a photo of her illegitimate son....
Um, yeah....
(Happened to brother, not me...)

67 posted on 07/07/2012 6:09:11 AM PDT by matginzac
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68 posted on 07/07/2012 6:18:19 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: nickcarraway

Hell Yes!!!!

69 posted on 07/07/2012 6:41:25 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Little Pig

I can answer that one! Yes!! The one good thing my ex did was to divorce me, which allowed me to find my perfect wife of 25 years, well nearly perfect.

70 posted on 07/07/2012 6:53:52 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: nickcarraway


Written by R. V. Braddock and C. Putman, Jr.


He said I’ll love you ‘til I die
She told him you’ll forget in time
As the years went slowly by
She still preyed upon his mind.

He kept her picture on his wall
Went half crazy now and then
He still loved her through it all
Hoping she’d come back again.

He kept some letters by his bed
Dated 1962
He had underlined in red
Every single I love you.

I went to see him just today
Oh, but I didn’t see no tears
All dressed up to go away
First time I’d seen him smile in years.

He stopped loving her today
They placed a wreath upon his door
And soon they’ll carry him away
He stopped loving her today.

Ya’ know she came to see him one last time
Oh, we all wondered if she would
And it kept running through my mind
This time he’s over her for good.

He stopped loving her today
They placed a wreath upon his door
And soon they’ll carry him away
He stopped loving her today...

71 posted on 07/07/2012 7:09:57 AM PDT by xp38
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To: nickcarraway
I dated a girl in HS for 3 years and a little after we graduated but we went our separate ways...we were just too incompatible. No hate for each other.

She died last year of breast cancer at age 25 and my dad called me and told me about it. A flood of emotions hit me especially when remembering all the good times with her etc. The lack of closure..not being able to say goodbye was hard. I cried over enough to say it really bothered me and still does even though I have a great gf right now who I love very much but that first real love is tough to forget.

72 posted on 07/07/2012 7:18:22 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence - Christopher Hitchen)
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To: umgud

Ah....the old joke.

Wife finds husband in the basement corner sobbing.

“What’s the matter honey?”

“Do you remember when I knocked you up and your daddy forced me at the point of a shotgun to marry you or go to jail for 20 years for statutory rape?”

“Yes, what about it?”

“I was just thinking - it’s been 20 years ago, tomorrow.” “I’d have been released today.

73 posted on 07/07/2012 7:24:13 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Old Sarge

Amen to that Sarge. I don’t know how many times I tried to reconcile, but she can’t let go and forgive anything and just attacks, full of hate.

So, I moved on.

74 posted on 07/07/2012 7:24:34 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Hoodat

Amen to that! I still include my ex in my prayers at night.

75 posted on 07/07/2012 7:25:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: nickcarraway
For a second wife’s most insistent fear is that her husband will go back to his first wife; that an old spark will be reignited and they will fall in love all over again.

Hogwash. I'm a "second wife" (to my first husband) and I guarantee you, this has never been a fear of mine.

The author of this article sounds like an incredible insecure woman. Perhaps that's why she's had so many unhappy marriages. Her description of Sinatra and Gardner is not love but lust -- and when people can't separate those two emotions, is it any wonder problems arise?

If a man has a child by his first wife, as mine does, there will be some level of emotional attachment, but I think this is usually more on the order of respect, friendship, or admiration than "love." I would hope a man would be able to feel these things for a woman who has borne his child.

76 posted on 07/07/2012 7:26:07 AM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: nickcarraway

My guy’s ex ain’t no Ava Gardner. LOL!!!!

77 posted on 07/07/2012 8:56:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WestwardHo

We are supposed to reconcile or stay single after divorce.

When a vow is made with God, it cannot be undone. It can be broken, but it is still in effect.

We typically only have such covenants on two occasions—when we accept Christ and when we marry.

If both are as tenuous and breakable as people take marriage, then we are all doomed.

78 posted on 07/07/2012 9:06:19 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: nickcarraway; Squantos; Yudan
Damn right they do.

I quit loving her within 2 weeks after she left me....tore up every pic I had of her into little pieces

Not long after, her married to some fat old rich f-word and she makes the trip 700 miles for a weekend of the one thing she never complained about cause he couldn't give her what she liked sexually.

I was single and not even in a committed relationship.

I told her I would have sex with a man before I would ever get it on with her sorry ass and sent her ass packing. Fast forward another year or so and she begs for it at my father's funeral....crazy assed woman huh?....this time I even had my new fiancee with me. talk about a strange pew of family folks something to talk about...fiancee, ex, and older girlfriends who had adored my dad..rightly

it reminded me of when one of my best friends down home in MS died early 20s in plane crash and all his girlfriends showed up...about 5-6 of them all boo-hooing together under the is sure strange

She was a bitch to be married to and hell to be divorced from child custody wise.

This notion of lovelorn poetry if a woman leaves ya is for pussies who can't put their big boy pants on.

Now if your adored wifey DIES then wow....I don't know what i would do.

The pain ...the lonesomeness...makes me wet eyed to even consider losing a child.

But beyatch leaves ya....

Let me tell all you young Gen X and Y boys here.

Woman leaves you...curse her memory and get that right in your head...even if you were an ass...don't linger over it and for God's sake don;t cry and act so weak for them....they don't respect that.

Go get yourself another one...even if you just have to fly to Santo Domingo or Rio or Barranquilla for a few weeks of pure unbridled hedonism with as many sun kissed nubile honeys you can afford or sweet talk into your life.

And get your head back on.

The world is full of fine women just waiting for a man..and there is one who will love you.

Mine is on my homepage..16-17 years now.

My ex leaving me was the best thing ever happened to me.

The one downside that a man loses on is the children. Even crack bitch from hell usually gets the kids and they suffer for it.

You do the best you can and be prepared to spend forever and it's never the same...that is all you can do till they are 16 or so...earlier maybe for boys if the judge is sane

Like Percy Sledge said...Take Time to Know Her

especially if you breed with her

Life is short...make it sweet.

and there is nothing finer than a ripe good woman...everything else is second place...distant second

79 posted on 07/07/2012 9:32:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: nickcarraway

The better question is do women ever get over their ex husband...especially if they carried his children?

Women hate to be rejected.

I actually turned down sex with women in my youth who were married to or involved with friends of mine.

Eventually all divorced or split up usually because my pal was a jerk to them which was why they hit on me to begin with.

You want to experience scorn?

Do what I did and then hit on a woman who you previously rejected her advances because she was then married etc...

talk about going down in flames...painfully...the scorn in their eyes said it all

it was more of less:

“dumbass I offered you some then cause I liked you and I really really needed a man I was comfortable with to be good to me and sorta sweep me off my feet for a while..make me feel desired again after being treated like crap by YOUR buddy i was involved with”*

and btw...that was your one shot...bye

whew...I still remmeber the they were all fine as grits women

i regret doing the right thing to be honest

* bonus for the cheater gal is she also gets to toss the fact in your friend’s face that she slept with ya and did all sorts of freak stuff she doesn’t do with hubby/boyfriend...the one caveat in it all

80 posted on 07/07/2012 9:41:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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