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Vanity. | 07/21/12 | Golux

Posted on 07/21/2012 2:00:36 PM PDT by golux

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To: GlockThe Vote
"Remember the guy had full body armour on i including legs and throat. Unless you had a clean shot through the face and eye mask, even hitting him w a 9mm would not have done much and he would have immediately returned fire and you would have wound up dead."

See, IMHO, this is true statements. Now, if 10 people in that place had ARs or similar rifles, loaded and ready to rock, then the guy would have gone down after spraying less than one full mag. Sadly, this is not where we live nowdays. I would rather sit next to a dozen solid citizens with loaded rifles than a thousand sheeples with not even a decent magnum wheelgun, much less a serious rifle, but again that is not where we live. Sadly.

I maintain that if that little fuzzy headed prevert had opened up at my local gun range, he would have spit blood before he had killed 12 and injured another 50. He might have got a dozen of us, but the other dozen would have perforated him and then pissed into his wounds. But again, this is why there are no mass shootings at gun ranges. The preverts know they won't get far, neither will they walk away in chains.

God Bless Texas.

201 posted on 07/21/2012 11:35:36 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: golux

Went through a bunch of the first responses and they didn’t seem to have the facts. Aurora has no CCW, and the theater doen not allow any carry. So the answer is the powers that be don’t want people to be able to defend themselves like our nanny bloomberg here in ny.

202 posted on 07/22/2012 1:14:51 AM PDT by waynesa98
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To: spokeshave
1. Light up a flare and stuff it up under the back of his amour vest. 2. Wearing a gas mask put a plastic bag over the fiter. 3. If have a gun ....aim for the mask lenses. (aim small...miss small)

Ooohhhh right Wambo how the hell are you going to do all this while being pinned down by in-coming enemy fire?

I mean I can see in your delusional ideal world having all the toddlers, 10 year olds, and teens gathered around you, having ripped out the material from the seat cushions to make head bands for themselves, saying hey "We will cover you with Popcorn and Twizzlers fire while you go out to Lowes Hardware & Home Improvement Center to gather all this stuff up and get a background check from Walmart for the firearms and when you get back we will hit him with Slushy grenades and Coke bombs so you can sneak up behind him and do all that crap!!" Dude get in the real world no one attends a movie theater geared for an Search and Destroy mission to watch a movie with friends.

I mean really dude these people were outgunned with no where to hide, they were a bunch of pre-teens, teens, a few parents, and 20 somethings who came out to watch a movie, then being put in an impossible situation, so how in hech do you see all these unarmed people, many already dead or wounded, getting the drop on this guy who has preplanned this very thoroughly that he has the outside exist covered and has a free line of sight fire on those trying to get to lobby exist?

Without being there I do not have any idea what I would do in this situation. I mean if I have kids with me then I am going to be trying to keep their heads down so they don't get shot. If I am at the top row close to the lobby exist then maybe I try to get the kids to drop down and get out but really with the tear gas and dealing with the defening roar of of the semi-automatic it is going to be chaos and getting to the gunman it is almost impossible. So until I am in that situation I CAN NOT BLAME any of those that were targeted by a terrorist and put into a NO WIN situation.

203 posted on 07/22/2012 2:03:01 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Jim Noble
Why did no one jump him? Same reason no one jumped the VA tech killer, but watched him reload like sheep.

Liviu Librescu (August 18, 1930 – April 16, 2007; Hebrew: ליביו ליברסקו‎) was a Romanian-Israeli-American scientist and professor whose major research fields were aeroelasticity and aerodynamics. A prominent academic in addition to being a Holocaust survivor, he is most widely known for his actions during the Virginia Tech massacre, in which he held off the gunman, giving all but one of his students enough time to escape through the windows. Shot and killed during the attack, Librescu was posthumously awarded the Order of the Star of Romania, Romania's highest civilian honor. At the time of his death, he was Professor of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Tech.
204 posted on 07/22/2012 2:10:06 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux

Right, that makes my point all the more.

We are not raising men like Professor L., and we didn’t raise him.

205 posted on 07/22/2012 3:40:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
"I am not touting that the ‘FBI’ set all this up."

No? Touting a blog that says that the FBI set it up is the same...


"And he used a credit card? $15,000 is quite a bill to run up - unemployed and collecting unemployment...and it seems cost was no object, but getting the stuff quickly was..."

Gee, do you think he ever intended to pay the bills? See, because my bet is that he probably thought that he would have more pressing issues to deal with.

206 posted on 07/22/2012 9:03:28 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

You did not answer my question to you...Bldg 7 just sort of collapsed on its own? Sometime after the towers were gone?

207 posted on 07/22/2012 9:37:01 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“2. Wall of bullets of flying from the bottom up. “

Nothing like a little hyperbole to make it sound unrealistic. It wasn’t a “wall of bullets”. It was one at a time. They were coming fast, and no doubt caused panic and awe, but rushing him at that moment wasn’t the only option.

“4. Guy is dressed in black in a dark theatre. Hard to make him out in the chaos.”

Follow all that flash and report from gunfire. The bad guy is the one it is coming from.

“a 24 y/o a 2 glocks, AR, and a shotgun and body armour is not going down unless three or four guys at the same time take him down”

Um, he only has 1 trigger finger, the other weapons not being fired are useless to him. Having weapons doesn’t make a person thwart gravity. He could be taken down just fine.

“5. Guy is covered in body armour. 9mm, unless place perfect shot to the face, does little or nothing most likely, even if you hit him. And he is shooting back w unlimited ammo”

Any round shot into body armor hurts like Hell. You make it sem as though body armor prevents that pain somehow, as though he wouldn’t even feel being shot. All it takes is a round or two to get his attention, distract him, then finish him off. He’s only got a magazine of ammo before having to reload, not “unlimited”. I’ve got a magazine too.

So, why didn’t someone rush him or shoot him? Because we are taught to run away from violence and call the 911 instead of dealing with the violence directly ourselves.

208 posted on 07/22/2012 10:43:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I was there sparky.

209 posted on 07/22/2012 10:46:16 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

You threw the demolition switch???

210 posted on 07/22/2012 10:49:31 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: CodeToad

Whatever Rambo.

211 posted on 07/22/2012 10:51:59 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: avacado

- Dark theatre
- Shooter wearing black clothing
- Tear gas flooding the theatre and choking everyone

All that, plus some. One would be hard pressed to describe a worse tactical counter-offensive position than being in a crowded theatre, with people scrambling in all directions, rows of seats bolted to the floor essentially preventing mobility, aisles serving as kill funnels for the attacker(s).

This is the kind of helplessness that gun-control advocates want for every person in the world -- worse helplessness than for the millions of Jews stripped naked and marched to their own slaughter in the gas chambers.

The leftists see this as a huge victory, and we can expect to see more of these in the coming months because Nobody Fired Back.

Soetoro’s 2012 election contingency -- By Any Means Necessary

212 posted on 07/22/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I’m sorry. I made the mistake of thinking that you were a serious person. I see now that you are nothing but a conspiracy nut. I apologize for wasting both our time and wish you a long, happy, if deluded, life.

213 posted on 07/22/2012 11:37:53 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: bgill

Wouldn’t surprise me if the guy was in Occupy Wall Street.....

214 posted on 07/22/2012 2:02:39 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Perdogg; golux; PhilCollins; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; justiceseeker93; SunkenCiv; NFHale; ...

I am not ashamed to admit that I would have kissed the ground or ran unless I was well positioned behind him with some kind of weapon.

Most of the people were probably too shocked to do anything else.

I saw a video once of a guy being shot, there were people standing around I think, it was outside a courthouse or something. No one including the guy who eat the bullet had the kind of reaction I would have expected. They all just stood there.

215 posted on 07/23/2012 5:56:32 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Gettin Betta

We have not had any terrorists spraying bullets on planes either. Makes a slight difference.

216 posted on 07/23/2012 10:49:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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