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Police officer killed victim of break-in
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | July 20, 2012 | Allison Manning

Posted on 07/22/2012 9:32:41 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: Steve Newton
From one old former combat veteran to another I want to thank you sir for your service to your country.

Sergeant - US Army - Viet Nam - Iron Triangle 1970-71

61 posted on 07/23/2012 7:08:00 PM PDT by Ron H. (Beelzebub or Satan? Not relly all that much difference in the end. Neither one is good for America!)
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To: Toespi

What newspaper claims the victim was “brandishing” a weapon?


62 posted on 07/23/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Toespi

“It was reported in the newspaper, in the news and originally stated by the police, that he was carrying a weapon when he came running out of the apartment.”

You do realize that “carrying” and “brandishing” have separate meanings, and you have failed to establish any source demonstrating he was so much as “carrying” a weapon.


63 posted on 07/23/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Toespi

Sounds like they’ve already got their story straightened out.


64 posted on 07/23/2012 7:23:06 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: Altariel

Why don’t you take the time to read the article in this post. In two separate paragraphs it is mentioned that he had a gun in his hand. Then I will take your apology. The original reports on the local news said he was told to drop his weapon and he refused.


65 posted on 07/23/2012 7:33:29 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Reread the article. Nowhere does it state that he had a gun in his hand.

In fact, it specifically states:

“Thomas was found with a gun next to his body, but police haven’t said where that gun came from or whether Thomas even had it in his hand when he was shot. “

Local news articles are available on the Internet; that you have not supplied them suggests none of them corroborate your “brandishing” claim.


66 posted on 07/23/2012 7:42:05 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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“But we can’t predict that, and we can’t know that when someone has a gun in their hand.”

That explanation is little comfort to Thomas’ friend and cousin.


67 posted on 07/23/2012 8:00:27 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Altariel

Columbus Police Chief Kimberley Jacobs said it’s impossible for officers to predict what a person intends to do when that person approaches with a weapon.


68 posted on 07/23/2012 8:01:52 PM PDT by Toespi
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Police officers, though, say they have little time to sort out a situation when someone is holding a weapon.


69 posted on 07/23/2012 8:04:13 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Ron H.

And the same to you my FRiend.

God bless you and WELCOME home


70 posted on 07/23/2012 8:38:41 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Toespi

“Columbus Police Chief Kimberley Jacobs said it’s impossible for officers to predict what a person intends to do when that person approaches with a weapon.”

This is not, grammatically or logically, equivalent to your claim that the victim was brandishing a weapon.


71 posted on 07/23/2012 9:36:49 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Toespi

“Police officers, though, say they have little time to sort out a situation when someone is holding a weapon.”

This is not, grammatically or logically, equivalent to your claim that the victim was brandishing a gun.

Nor does it establish that the victim was brandishing a gun.


72 posted on 07/23/2012 9:38:27 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Toespi

“But we can’t predict that, and we can’t know that when someone has a gun in their hand.”

That explanation is little comfort to Thomas’ friend and cousin.

This is not, grammatically or logically, equivalent to your claim that the victim was brandishing a gun.

I am beginning to think that English may not be your first language, if you truly cannot discern the difference between a hypothetical subject and the actual victim.


73 posted on 07/23/2012 9:40:03 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

If the original police claims are true, that this person ran out the door with a gun towards them, then I consider this brandishing a weapon. You refused to accept the fact that the very article you used in this thread, mentioned three times that the victim had a weapon in his hands. I gave you all three quotes from your article and you are still harassing and misquoting me as well as my intent. Stop or I will have a moderator stop you.


74 posted on 07/23/2012 9:52:13 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Last word irrelevent; honesty is what we need, not support for mystery babylon.


75 posted on 07/23/2012 10:28:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Toespi

No, the article did not mention that the victim had a gun in his hand. The article specifically stated:

“Thomas was found with a gun next to his body, but police haven’t said where that gun came from or whether Thomas even had it in his hand when he was shot. “

You have deliberately falsified that information and are continuing to attempt to spread misinformation.

I suppose Obama’s men need people like you to encourage the development of his pet projects: “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded [as the military].”

Are you ready to admit that you have lied about what the article actually states about the victim?


76 posted on 07/23/2012 10:36:39 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Toespi

Nowhere in the article did the police make that claim. That is a bald-faced lie.

You have been repeatedly reminded that the gun was located *next to* the body of the victim, and the police specifically did *not* claim the victim held the gun.

“Thomas was found with a gun next to his body, but police haven’t said where that gun came from or whether Thomas even had it in his hand when he was shot. “

By claiming otherwise, you are deliberately spreading misinformation on Free Republic. You are being intellectually and morally dishonest in making those claims and have not had the decency to say “I read the article incorrectly” or “I misunderstood; English is not my first language”.

Since you have not admitted to either, I believe it reasonable to assume the third alternative is accurate: you are aware of the truth, but wish to spread misinformation on Free Republic, because you don’t wish the truth to get out.

Bad form, Sir, and disgraceful for a conservative.


77 posted on 07/23/2012 10:43:53 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Steve Newton

Sir, we need more peace officers like you, especially now.

Thank you for your service.


78 posted on 07/23/2012 10:46:06 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I am honored and thank you so much.

Blessings


79 posted on 07/24/2012 9:36:43 AM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Altariel

Be sure and read the entire article. Especially paragraph six and seven.

Veteran Columbus Ohio Police Officer William Kaufman Shot And Killed Burglary Victim
      
COLUMBUS, OHIO – Police say they believe the fatal gunshot wound to a man who lived in an apartment that was being burglarized earlier this week came from the responding police officer.
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Destin Thomas, 21, died from a gunshot wound after a burglary at an east side apartment on Brooke Blvd. Tuesday morning.

Columbus police Sgt. Rich Weiner said the department is confident that the injuries to Thomas were received from the officer’s weapon.

Weiner said police are conducting a ballistics test to confirm, but that they reached the conclusion based on the coroner’s report.

It all started at about 8:45 a.m. when police were called to the reported burglary and shots fired at the apartment.

Police said two suspects came out of the apartment, followed by Thomas, who was carrying a gun.

According to CPD, during a confrontation with police, an officer fired his weapon.

According to the Fairfield County Coroner’s Office, Thomas sustained two gunshot wounds – one to the hip and one to the chest. The coroner said the chest wound was fatal.

About five hours later, police spotted the two possible suspects from the burglary.

One of the suspects allegedly stole a police cruiser in the area of Tussing Road and Penobscott.

The officer fired gunshots at the cruiser and suspect, who eventually crashed into a row of air conditioning units at an apartment complex.

He was hospitalized and treated for minor injuries.

The suspect was identified as 19-year-old David J. O’Neal. He was released from the hospital and taken into custody Thursday.

Police said he is charged with four felony charges: grand theft auto, receiving stolen property, vandalism, and obstructing official business.

O’Neal appeared before a Fairfield County Judge Thursday, and bond was set at $500,000.

Police are still searching for the second suspect in connection with the burglary. He is described as a black male, 6 feet tall, with short dreadlocks. He was last seen wearing gray shorts and a black T-shirt.

According to Columbus police, Officer William Kaufman, a 17-year veteran, fired shots at the location on Brooke Blvd.

Officer Billie Camp-Donovan, a 15-year veteran, fired shots at the intersection of Tussing Road and Penobscott.


80 posted on 07/24/2012 3:44:54 PM PDT by Toespi
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