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NCAA imposes stiff penalties on Penn State
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | July 23, 2012 | Jeremy Roebuck

Posted on 07/23/2012 8:24:17 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: littleharbour
Paterno had clear responsibility which he failed to fulfil, but he is not the monster that some are trying to make him out to be.

Other than shielding a pedophile he was a great guy.

81 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:29 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Gamecock

I am not inclined to be vociferous in defending Penn State. I do note that Penn State could always withdraw from the NCAA and avoid (at least technically) some of the sanctions. I do hope the NCAA was careful in conducting its hearings and afforded Penn State the opportunity to try to defend itself.

At some point, however, the NCAA is going to get push back from some member schools, who may decide to form their own association, at least for some sports, although I don’t know what the NCAA is authorized to do if, say a football program left the NCAA while the same school’s basketball program elected to stay.


82 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:29 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I don’t understand the wins being vacated. What do they mean, all wins struck from the record as if the games never happened?

It means Paterno is no longer the winningest coach.

83 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: NCLaw441

The NCAA has jurisdiction in the case, ultimately, because PSU is a member institution of the NCAA and this episode demonstrated not just a lack of institutional control, but a coordinated institutional effort to cover up crimes. If PSU didn’t think that the NCAA had jurisdiction, they could probably withdraw their membership, but then good luck on finding any games to compete in ever again. Also, the school signed off on the sanctions before they were announced, so that pretty much blows the “no jurisdiction” argument out of the water.


84 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Perdogg

My lasting memory of “Joe Pa” will be him leading chants of “We are .. Penn State” on his lawn as the Sandusky story broke.

Burn. In. Hell. Child rape enabler.


85 posted on 07/23/2012 9:07:45 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: deport
Other FBS Programs To Receive At Least
a 3-Year Postseason Ban Since 1960
 
School        Year  Length  
 
Indiana       1960  4 years
• Improper recruiting inducements
 
Oklahoma St.  1989  3 years
• Improper financial aid, extra benefits
 
Michigan St.  1976  3 years
 
• Extra benefits, improper recruiting entertainment
 
Houston       1966  3 years
• Extra benefits, improper recruiting entertainment
 
-- Source: NCAA Major Infractions Database

86 posted on 07/23/2012 9:08:13 AM PDT by deport
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To: DeaconRed

PSU is a state supported intitution. It’ll be interesting to see if they try to get the tsxpayers to pay the fine.


87 posted on 07/23/2012 9:08:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: DuncanWaring; DeaconRed; Perdogg

A cross-examination of the Freeh Report:

http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_details.asp?editorial=220

Anyone care to read it.


88 posted on 07/23/2012 9:08:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: NCLaw441
I do hope the NCAA was careful in conducting its hearings and afforded Penn State the opportunity to try to defend itself.

The university signed off on the sanctions before they were announced. They agreed that the Freeh report was more than adequate to support the allegations and that these penalties were appropriate. I imagine the university was faced with a choice - either go along with these penalties, or face much stiffer penalties that you can then fight through an appeals process.

89 posted on 07/23/2012 9:08:35 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: NCLaw441
At some point, however, the NCAA is going to get push back from some member schools, who may decide to form their own association, at least for some sports, although I don’t know what the NCAA is authorized to do if, say a football program left the NCAA while the same school’s basketball program elected to stay.

I doubt it. (Just shooting of at the keyboard here)

Say 10 or 15 D-1 schools decide to leave. Where would they go? Would those schools have the level of competition and financial backing from the networks to make a go of it? Kind of doubt it.

90 posted on 07/23/2012 9:09:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t know why they didn’t impose the “Death Penalty”, because what they did will have the same result. Penn State ought to just suspend its’ football program for 5 years instead of going to through the motions and spending money to prop up a big loser.


91 posted on 07/23/2012 9:10:20 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: DeaconRed

PSU’s BOD & other executives should be paying the fine and losing their jobs.

JoePa makes a convenient figurehead (just as he did in more halcyon days), but there are many at PSU who made (and are still making) plenty of money and are probably even more culpable.


92 posted on 07/23/2012 9:10:51 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.
JoePa makes a convenient figurehead (just as he did in more halcyon days),

The Freeh Report blew that assertion to smithereens.

93 posted on 07/23/2012 9:11:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: apillar

I expect the fine is going to the general operating fund of the NCAA, used primarily to pay NCAA salaries.


94 posted on 07/23/2012 9:11:49 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Daveinyork
PSU is a state supported intitution. It’ll be interesting to see if they try to get the tsxpayers to pay the fine.

Athletic funds are a seperate pot of money. Taxpayer dollars don't go that pot.

95 posted on 07/23/2012 9:12:49 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: ilgipper

I totally agree with your comments. Well said.


96 posted on 07/23/2012 9:12:49 AM PDT by Jenny217
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To: rollo tomasi
Yes, Penn State is currently on a 160 or so losing streak right now.

And it means that Mike McQueary was the last starting quarterback for Penn State and Joe Paterno, 1997, against Wisconsin.

97 posted on 07/23/2012 9:14:06 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Gamecock
Other than the War and that unfortunate business with the Jews, Hitler was a great guy.

/sarc

98 posted on 07/23/2012 9:14:22 AM PDT by jboot
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To: DeaconRed

There are some professions that provide opportunities for perverts. Coaching is one of them. It’s why the Boy Scouts are fighting to maintain the integrity of its leaders.

I would not be surprised if you find at least one pervert on every coaching staff from the pros right down to the little leagues. I remember more than one sadist, and at least one sexual pervert on coaching staffs when I was in school.

They get away with it because we take sports way too seriously.


99 posted on 07/23/2012 9:15:15 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Gamecock

“Athletic funds are a seperate pot of money. Taxpayer dollars don’t go that pot. “

Money is fungible.


100 posted on 07/23/2012 9:16:29 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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