Posted on 07/27/2012 6:03:39 AM PDT by BCW
Lots of doctors decide not to do chemo.
“Until you watch this and research the publications and testimony - why are you even commenting.”
I have watched the movie, and found the lack of any statistics remarkable.
There were some testimonials and anecdotal evidence. I have no reason to doubt them or believe them; they are what they are.
When my husband got acute leukemia he went with chemo and a bone marrow transplant. He is still doing ok. Not thriving, but, alive.
What impressed me, though, about the cancer doctors and team was this: they didn’t ever pretend to us they had a cure-all. I found that to be refreshingly honest.
They said this is the sort of chemo that is best indicated for you; here’s why; here are all the risks; you need to get heart, lungs, liver tested before we can give it to you, because if they aren’t in good shape you won’t tolerate it; you can’t be diabetic, you can’t have a drug addiction, etc., all these rules or they won’t even do it.
Then when it came to bone marrow transplant they said it doesn’t always work; here are the dangers; here are the benefits; here is what your donor needs to be; here are the risks; etc.
Whereas with Gerston, let me tell you, the unicorns are flowing with rainbows. In their movie, EVERYONE who uses Gerston is healed (or ignored). EVERYONE who doesn’t is a mess.
It is simply not to be believed. I am willing to believe that some have benefited from Gerston therapy. But not all. And with the glowing, over the top rapture they present I find them to be untrustworthy.
You say there are clinics in Europe burgeoning with this treatment. I await the double blind results with a decent number of patients represented. I doubt at this point any such results will be published.
Been seeing people die of cancer for many decades. Magic diets don’t work.
—So what will people die of? Injuries only?—
Natural causes. Just like everyone who didn’t die of injuries did before sometime in the 1950’s, when “natural causes” was no longer allowed as a “cause of death” on a death certificate.
The death rate is still 100%, though that may be changing in the not too distant future.
People with diabetes have gone on this diet with the aid and supervision of a DR qualified to monitor cases like this. Over a short period of time - like 6 months and maybe more depending on the person - they were able to get off the medication and live a normal life.
It’s about giving our bodies the proper nutrition to rebuild and heal itself. It doesn’t take a DR or scientist to explain the common sense of this approach.
Look into it - and research it for yourself before you just ignore it. Think about how food processing in the US has changed since the 70’s - how our home life and the meals we cook in our homes have changed - and the quality of food entering our grocery stores...the answers are right there in front of our faces.
It’s your choice to continue this - but your daughter should be giving the chance to read the materials - talk to other alternative professionals and seek her own way.
I know a child doesn’t have to be overweight to have diabetes - but what they child eats may explain the condition they have. As a parent, it’s our job to seek out and discover what is best for our children.
I put this hear not to dismiss the information or hide. Your choice on what you want to do with it. I always look at both sides before making my decisions — and I’ve made mine.
I’m not participating in this drug culture - pill solution - and chemicals, steroids, and antibiotics that are in everything processed and sliced up...I’m going organic and healthy — and I feel much better over the last 6 weeks of doing so...and the stuff coming out of me smells horrid!
We need to clean our bodies inside and let the body repair itself naturally...look into it — what will it hurt?
...people like you and your way of thinking our dangerous...
I like that little medical quote of DNA - although on the surface interesting - proves nothing about what I’ve presented here.
You are a free man - you’ve chosen not to look into this therapy and have dismissed it on the surface without any professional inquiry. That’s fine - but lecture me on unicorns and what not. I’ve done things for this country - put my life on the line for yrs on foreign soil - and still serving this nation of mine.
If I want to share something like this, I don’t expect everyone to jump on board and like it. If you don’t want to look into it - then don’t Getting on here and chastising me - making fun of me...whatever - very immature and the like, no one will take what you said serious.
I’m sure if you found yourself in the areas I were in - you’d be all about listening to me...but then again those that didn’t are dead because they did what you just did here.
Have good one - I hope find peace in your life, brother!
It’s on the websites of what % you need to eat.
I downloaded the PDF files from Fat,Sick and Nearly Dead — you have to give a e-mail — any e-mail - even a made up one and then download them all...all the info is on there...
I’m still getting cleaned out after 6 wks...the stuff - the toxins in my body smell bad...but I’m feeling alot better — dropped 10 lbs...sleeping better — no allergies - my dried feet are healing - my leg/back pain gone...my body is starting to heal itself with the proper nutrition.
I have multivitamins with enzymes in them - I’m taking 2000 IU of Vitamin C and Vitamin D daily...plus all the raw veg’s and fruit...eating raw nuts...
I was one of those eat meat - EAT BBQ smoked ribs - love grilled chicken — but after I saw the conditions of Tyson and the others...I had enough...it made me sick all the time — I couldn’t breathe -— I couldn’t sleep -— my nose ran - my breath smelled...my body was toxic...
I’ve done away with that — I need to live — and this is the way to do it.
I choose not to participate in the US diet...look at the Japaneses cancer rates — low to non-existent...says alot!
I hope you find the info helpful and meaning!
Seriously, cuban leaf?
“Natural causes” is what they put down when they didn’t know what killed a person. It was probably usually a heart attack or a cancer.
When someone dies, their heart stops beating. Is that not a heart attack?
I am surprised Gerson’s followers don’t claim that their juice cleansing regimen doesn’t prevent death by the dread “natural causes” as well.
They are not honest. Plenty of people who follow their regimen die. I dare say a higher percentage than use conventional treatments. Although I’ll never know, since they won’t release any reliable statistics. There has been no controlled study.
If someone prefers to use Gerston for whatever reason, that is their right, and in some cases it may indeed help or even cure, but, I hate the dishonesty and disingenuousness in their promotion.
As for the European movement, it occurred to me after I posted before, of course they’ll promote it. It is all socialism over there, and I’m sure they’d rather their terminal and serious patients juice and enema rather than get the more expensive chemo, radiation, surgery and transplants.
I have looked into the “diet cures everything” and “coffee enema” and “raw food fetish” snake oil.
If it worked it would be submitted to double blind studies instead of pimped by conspiracy mongering loons on the internet.
I am a veteran of the military myself. Good for you. Apropos of nothing.
Were they making fun of you? Poor widdle baby - better call a WAHbulance.
Ideas are subject to critical review - sorry if you think your service makes the ideas you proffer immune from criticism - they do not.
You are presenting a snake oil cure all based upon shoddy thinking that natural = good and that “toxins” are the cause of all harm (can you cure thetans also?); and that old dead actors couldn't possibly be wrong (actors! what don't they know?).
DNA is mutable. Cancer is caused by mutations in DNA. All the natural food and coffee enemas in the world are not going to prevent somatic mutations.
Now linking an anti-microtubule assembly disruptor to an antibody that binds to a marker expressed only in cancer cells..... then you might have something.
Conspiracy mongering losers offering snake oil cure all - not so much.
I hope you give up on your delusions of adequacy in your ability to discern proper medical treatment.
Sure do...thanks for posting!
While I agree with eating a healthy diet, the most over-looked preventive health care is chiropractic.
Think about this: Your spinal column process over 300 trillion nerve impulses [messages] per second and when you have subluxations in the vertabrae a small percentage of these vital messages can be lost or mis-communicated.
A good read on the subject is: Chicken Soup for the Chiropractic Soul.
More info on my home page...
Did any of these alternative treatments for Steven Jobs include chiropractic?
I got into a freak bicycling accident 9 years ago. Had broken collarbone, scapula, and rib. Could have died if not for my helmet which I had just put back on [very hot day].
Anyway due to a perceived complication I went to a specialist, warned the secretary on arrival that I had no insurance so just wanted an initial consultation. No further discussion of costs until it was too late - which was apparently when I walked in the door.
They insisted on some additional x-rays [cheapest part of the visit] and gave me a shoulder harness. Got a $2k+ bill with cost of each broken bone ranging from $650 to $850 and the doctor simply replied that what the medic-aid proscribes for each type of broken bone. Plus I was supposedly under his 90 day care. I was pissed but there was no need to ever go back.
About a year later I found out about chiropractic when looking for cheaper x-rays b/c I thought I had re-broken my shoulder blade. All of my other aging related ailments [shingles, headaches, constipation, bloody and massive stools, etc.] were getting worse but were completely reversed thanks to 6 months intensive chiro adjustments.
Prior too chiro I had tried everything with diet and exercise - in my late thirties when colon problems started getting bad. I’m 50 now and in excellent health!
—Seriously, cuban leaf?
“Natural causes” is what they put down when they didn’t know what killed a person. It was probably usually a heart attack or a cancer.
When someone dies, their heart stops beating. Is that not a heart attack?—
Sorry. I was just making light of it. I always laugh at the statistics of people that die of “heart disease” because it is what I consider, without further information any way, to be the equivalent of saying “old age”.
I sometimes laugh at our cultures recent inability to grasp that people die and that they will spare no expense keeping people alive for absolutely as long as possible and that all deaths are a travesty. Even if it means bankrupting our nation and leaving us vulnerable to attack from within or without.
I think part of reaching maturity is accepting your own mortality.
The body has amazing healing abilities it can unleash through the information encoded in our DNA but only chiropractic can overcome the subluxations in the involuntary communications coursing through the spine and nervous system. For me I’ve never had any back pains but several early signs of aging.
From my very first chiro adjustment I simply felt better. I still go once/month b/c everytime I’ve stopped [4-6 months] my symptoms return. If I had seen a chiropractor as a child or teenager then constant care would most likely not be necessary.
See my prior posts on this thread 71-73 and my homepage.
I think there are two messages in Gerson’s story. One is the naturaly healing stuff - which I’m not all that sold on.
The other is the big lie of big medicine. I’m all over that one. I became a believer when the chiropractors finally won against the AMA.
That coupled with my personal experience with general practitioners. Case in point: I go to the doctor with a VERY sore and red big toe after putting up with it for several days. He takes x-rays and says he doesn’t see any breaks but I may want to take it easy on it.
Well, it hurts like hell so I hit the internet and search “sore red big toe”. I strongly confirm I have gout in less than two minutes. In less than ten minutes I determine that the consensus is that there are lots of drugs that can be prescribed but of the natural solutions black cherry juice and apple cider vinegar seem to be the best. So I get those two at QFC and three days later my symptoms are gone, within two days.
Cost me about $7.50 and internet access. I rarely go to the doctor these days. I did for massive skin problems after stupidly weedeating the edge area of a forrest on a hot day in central Kentucky with shorts and a t-shirt and NO bug spray. I deserved that.
The doc just prescribed itching medicine which I didn’t need...
Per my chiro doc approximately:
3/4 million die each year in the US from heart disease,
1/2 million from cancer, &
1/4 million [mostly elderly] from properly prescribed meds.
When all you have is a hammer, problems look like nails.
I totally expected your skepticism given our past differences on creation evolution debates, but I pinged you anyways.
Well, I have no dramatic story, but I will say that since I started going to a Chiropractor in my very early 30’s my back has been better than in my 20’s, and I’m now 58.
It was painful for me to wash a car during most of my 20’s, I don’t even think about it now. And the only reason I went was because I injured my back - reaching for a towel - so bad that I could not walk.
Oh, and apparently there are three kinds of nerves that can be pinched: Those that hurt. Those that control organs and those that control the repair of organs (I over simplify). My chiropractor had a picture on his wall of a spine pinching a particular bundle of nerves going to the guys kidney. Apparently the guy died of kidney disease.
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