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Don't EVER Do This!
Life Experience | July 29, 2012 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:51:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz

DO NOT EVER DO THIS.

I met a fellow about 7 years ago in the rooms of Narcotics Anonymous. He was getting cleaned up; so was I. We became fast friends. Soon, I was helping him out, and he was helping me.

Sometimes I loaned him money -- a lot -- and sometimes he loaned it to me. Once, I loaned him my car for some jobn interviews. Everything went well.

He contacted me recently and asked if I could rent him a car. "Why can't you rent it?" I asked. Well, he had a valid license but not a physical copy of it. Sure, I replied. I can do it.

I rented the car for him from Enterprise. He paid for the whole deal, including the extended insurance (which I demanded he do). Four days pass, the car needs to be returned or re-rented. No problem, he comes with more money and we re-rent it. Four more days pass, and I contact him. No answers. I call him all day. No answers. Now I am getting worried.

I go to where his last address was, and his girlfriend answers (also in the program of recovery) and she says he moved out some time back. She hints he's returned to using. Now I am getting REALLY worried.

I call and call and call. The next day, I go to Enterprise, and they inform me that because he is an unauthorised driver, no coverage will be afforded me under the insurance. I may be 100% civilly liable. They instruct me to report the car stolen. I call Chamblee police, and an officer comes. Police are always suspicious, and this one is too, telling me "my story does not add up" (but it did! It is what happened!) and informing me that I could and would be charged with a FELONY (Theft by Conversion) if the car is not returned by nightfall.

The guy is still not answering. I might be in SERIOUS trouble for being an idiot -- not for truly being a criminal.

The next day he answers, finally. Tells me not to panic, that the car is fine. I tell him HE and I will BOTH be charged with a felony and that we may be already. He shrugs it off ... "No big deal. I've had felonies before."

Yeah, a comment like that, he's definitely using again.

He promises to get the car to me. I wait at home, calling every fifteen minutes. Excuse after excuse on why he's not there yet. Finally, he stops answering again. Oh crap.

A day passes, I'm reaching out to my 12 step friends to locate him. One person saw him in an apartment complex. I stake it out for a while. No luck.

Another day passes. Enterprise calls me, they tell me they haven't issued a warrant yet, but this will be the final day.

So I start thinking like an addict. I was one, I know how they think. The only interest they (used to be me, too) have is their next hit. BINGO. I text him that I will offer him 100's in cash to bring the car back.

Suddenly he calls. He's willing. I tell him to meet me at my place of employment, where there are armed security guards. He pulls in, he's got 2 friends with him. Hmmm. I lure him out of the car by putting the cash on the ground. He gets out, I get in and order the friends out. The dude says, "Aren't you at least going to drive us somewhere?" Hell no. I'm in sight of armed guards right now, this is where they get out. I let them know they need to leave. I wave to the security guards, they wave back. They had no idea what was going on, but the wave convinced the hoodlums to leave.

This was the most terrifying week I have had in a long time. I was certain I was going to be jailed, with little prospect of an immediate bond, and a loss of job, and a felony accusation that my attorney told me was likely to stick.

All because I was too nice, too naive, and just plain stupid.

Don't let anything like this happen to you. I aged about 5 years.


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To: unixfox; Lazamataz
Been there, got the T-shirt and gimme cap.

I trusted my wife too.

I learn along time ago, when investing or loaning money to friends or relatives to give no more than I am willing write off right then.

Out of all the people, I have loaned given money to, only one real practicing drunk has repaid me.

151 posted on 07/29/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Slim’s alright.


152 posted on 07/29/2012 7:40:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Slim’s rule #1: You can’t save people from themselves.

Laz's Rule #1: But God can.

Slim’s rule # 2: You can’t change rule # 1.

Laz's Rule #2: God doesn't want you to.

153 posted on 07/29/2012 7:42:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Another wife. One God selects. I keep on trying to pick women, and have discovered that my picker is BROKE."

I thank him every day that not only do I have the best wife in the world, but how that could have happened.

She always tells me things happen for a reason and so, maybe this has as well.

154 posted on 07/29/2012 7:43:00 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it?? (this tagline is older than your teeth))
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To: Lazamataz

Read some Oscar Wilde to recover is my advice. Listen to Roger Miller: “I’ve been a fooooool...”

“A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal.” — Oscar Wilde


155 posted on 07/29/2012 7:47:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Lazamataz
I once loaned a sum approaching five figures to a relative.No addictions...just a relative.He stiffed me.From that time on the only time I give anyone any sum of money is when I have no desire to get it back.
156 posted on 07/29/2012 7:48:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Lazamataz

“It was nice to have you,” said the hostess.

“It was nice to have been had,” replied I.


157 posted on 07/29/2012 7:49:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Little Bill
You do know that Little Bill was not only not nice, but his roof leaked as well? ;-D
158 posted on 07/29/2012 7:50:15 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it?? (this tag line is older than your teeth))
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To: Revolting cat!

Wilde was very good at pointing out the human condition with acerbic wit.


159 posted on 07/29/2012 7:51:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lazamataz; Shadowstrike
The “friends” you refused to take somewhere, they know what you look like.

Laz, if you'd given those "friends" the ride they'd requested, you probably wouldn't be back here to post your experience.

160 posted on 07/29/2012 7:52:01 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Lazamataz
One more Laz

"Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence."

Just Damn, I think this man needs to be cloned!

161 posted on 07/29/2012 7:56:42 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it?? (this tag line is older than your teeth))
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To: Lazamataz

Dayum, Laz!

That was a close call. Glad it worked out, but rest assured that I’ll never do that! And you better not do it again either!


162 posted on 07/29/2012 7:58:15 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Lazamataz

Trust no one, believe nothing until proved to your own satisfaction.
End of story!


163 posted on 07/29/2012 7:58:28 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz my old friend, there is a lesson in here.

Embrace your inner stupid, love the pain it brought you as the Teacher it is, and learn like you’ve never learned before

And don’t you ever do anything this bone dense dumb again.

Ever.

Your friend,

Lurker


164 posted on 07/29/2012 8:03:46 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lazamataz

You just gave your self the best advice any one possibly could, now stick to it even when it hurts.
5th MEB


165 posted on 07/29/2012 8:07:37 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Revolting cat!; Lazamataz

>>Read some Oscar Wilde to recover is my advice.

Laz, as it happens, we went to the matinee of The Importance of Being Earnest this afternoon at the Georgia Shakespeare Festival at Oglethorpe. I recommend it highly, it was funny as all get out, really well done. It plays several more times over the next week, then they close for the Summer. Get over there, it’s right around the corner from you.

http://www.gashakespeare.org/the_importance_of_being_earnest


166 posted on 07/29/2012 8:07:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lazamataz

wow - glad you made it out of that one ok Laz.


167 posted on 07/29/2012 8:10:00 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Lazamataz

Amen.


168 posted on 07/29/2012 8:10:21 PM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: Lazamataz

There are some lessons only time will reveal.

Dear Laz,
This is your future writing to you. You know, time. Even though we both realize by the me you read this, it will be in the past...it’s ok, we both have to deal.
Life, they say, is a journey - from the brain to the heart, and what a wild ride it is huh?

Thing I wanted to tell you, I think it’s about “lessons” or somesuch, since the word frequently occupies replies is

trust your gut. What afterall is the takeaway here? Was it the keystroke, the withdrawal of funds, what?

At what point did your gut rumble and say; “ummm buddy mine, this ain’t a good thing” - at what point did you not listen? That is the thing here (I hesitate to use the word lesson)

You got your loving “good guy” that didn’t listen to his gut. Your “lesson” is why you did not.

It’s a deep thing. I have faith in your ability to go there.
See you later! (haha! That always makes me laugh!)


169 posted on 07/29/2012 8:16:50 PM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: Lazamataz

Crazy story! But in the end, the good guy prevailed. I will heed your advice. Addiction is a tough row to hoe. I wish you the best.


170 posted on 07/29/2012 8:18:11 PM PDT by GrannyAnn
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To: Lazamataz

Glad all is ok! Next time post a vanity to “idiot-proof” your ideas;)


171 posted on 07/29/2012 8:18:27 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (I'll take over the Mormon over the Moron any day!)
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To: Lazamataz

I hear ya. while I managed to stay away from drugs.. I was no angel...

The local LEO knew me by name. At the detention center well... “you again?” was normally what I heard.. I think I spent more time in the detention center one year, that outside of it. Come to think of it, I suspect that happened a few years..

I got so bad my own mother turned me in (as she should!) talk about a wake up call. sleeping on the couch and being woke up by the LEO your mother called.

I hear ya on the future gutter trash comment. It takes two to correct our ways. We both stopped being gutter trash when WE decided not to be. At that point we became the 2 worth helping.

The other one? Well for me.. It was God. If he can’t do it. No one can ;)


172 posted on 07/29/2012 8:19:08 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Lazamataz

“2X2L calling CQ. Isn’t there anyone on the air? Isn’t there anyone on the air? Isn’t there... anyone?”


173 posted on 07/29/2012 8:23:14 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it?? (this tag line is older than your teeth))
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To: cripplecreek

Twice I refused to co-sign for 2 of my kids...it puts everything you own at risk...


174 posted on 07/29/2012 8:29:03 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Little Bill; Lazamataz
Laz, listen to Little Bill's wisdom:

People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

I was in the VA system for three years, and saw what Bill talks about.

Scum of the earth. Useless Eaters. Chemical-dependent violent offenders. And they game the system to dry out at the VA with 3-hots-and-a-cot, hit the streets, and cycle through it all over again. And they laugh at you and me, because it's our dime.

175 posted on 07/29/2012 8:31:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Lazamataz

I know it’s scary, but sometimes people talk out their ass.

You would certainly be liable in a civil court for damages, but you would never get charged with a felony. The cops would talk to you for about five minutes and toss that warrant.

You learned a lesson. I’ve had several friends in the program. I usually only have to have the “no loans” and no bail conversation once. And it’s usually before they’ve fallen off the wagon. Honesty is the best policy.

Good luck on your recovery.


176 posted on 07/29/2012 8:35:57 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Lazamataz

As John Wayne said “Life is hard-Harder if you are stupid”

Packrat35 says “Stupidity should be painful cause then you WILL learn from it.”

Not ragging on you cause Lord knows I have done more than my share of stupid things and got out alive. But take the first two quote to heart and you can’t go wrong.


177 posted on 07/29/2012 8:37:12 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Lazamataz

Despite this painful lesson, keep your good heart.

You might be the only good heart someone meets — and you are a good heart.


178 posted on 07/29/2012 8:38:23 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Lazamataz

My son in law made that mistake in a business partnership — rented the company cars for 3 partners and got left holding the bag when the business went belly up and 2 partners declared bankruptcy. My s-i-l bore all of the losses. He worked his way out, but it was painful — very painful. It’s lucky that he married my daughter who is a work-a-holic and who took many jobs to help put them on their feet again.


179 posted on 07/29/2012 8:46:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Lazamataz
Some donkeys need a bit more coaxing then others.

BUT, You made it out safely, Praise God! [and no thanks to Paris Hilton. just thought I'd throw that out there]

180 posted on 07/29/2012 8:48:45 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there remianeth then, these three...)
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To: Old Sarge; Lazamataz
In my time it was “Viet Nam” made me do it, I was there along with ALL MY FRIENDS AND COUSINS. Mostly Bull Shit, 12 steppers, if they follow the program do best, but you have to commit.

I have a lot of admiration for those that pulled themselves from the gutter. You have to look in the mirror and admit that you are the cause of your problem, Laz was one and he is high on my list of good people.

181 posted on 07/29/2012 8:50:48 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Lazamataz
Never talk to the cops. Not one word. Take the fifth. remain silent. Lawyer up. You can not help yourself by talking to the police, you can only make your situation worse. period. NEVER. TALK. TO. THE. POLICE. PERIOD.
182 posted on 07/29/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Lazamataz

I'd a hit it, if you were convicted!


183 posted on 07/29/2012 9:00:02 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: EEGator

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184 posted on 07/29/2012 9:03:20 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Lazamataz

looks like FR is chock full of addicts and alcoholics!

I’m starting to smell some rot here!


185 posted on 07/29/2012 9:13:24 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Erasmus

I lost my Ovaltine Little Orphan Annie decoder ring. What does that mean in English? :)


186 posted on 07/29/2012 9:16:51 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
Who is that?!?

Aliya Wolf, Miss February 2004.

187 posted on 07/29/2012 9:17:02 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Thank you. She’s quite...yeah.


188 posted on 07/29/2012 9:21:26 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Lazamataz
I keep on trying to pick women, and have discovered that my picker is BROKE.

For a moment I thought you had misspelled something there.

189 posted on 07/29/2012 9:22:53 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Lazamataz

RULE # 1: Never follow advice from strangers on Internet.


190 posted on 07/29/2012 9:25:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Lazamataz

Glad to hear you’ve got yourself covered. Take care and stay safe.


191 posted on 07/29/2012 9:29:30 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: EEGator

Acccording to the URL, that’s the chick’s name.


192 posted on 07/29/2012 9:31:13 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Lazamataz

So you were like in that movie “Dude, where’s my car?” for awhile.

Glad you got that taken care of though. Also glad to hear you’re not using anymore.


193 posted on 07/29/2012 9:32:55 PM PDT by Bullish (Liars aren't always thieves but thieves are ALWAYS liars)
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To: Lazamataz

I haven’t read this whole thread so don’t know if anyone’s brought this to your attention, and I don’t want to be negative here, but what you did was dishonest. You legally cannot rent a car for someone else. So it really doesn’t have anything to do with the other guy.

It’s not easy facing up to the truth but the truth will set you free.

I’m glad everything worked out okay.


194 posted on 07/29/2012 9:41:46 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Erasmus

Okay...thanks.


195 posted on 07/29/2012 9:50:46 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry. I gotta. Right in Proverbs it tells you not to put your name on someone elses debt. I'm following the instructions from now on.

Laz, glad to hear you plan on following the instructions from now on. Now you know that this means that you are going to have to commit yourself to The One who made everything and wrote them, and start to read and study them, so that you know what they are.

You really had a close call. I would definitely have to say that The LORD was merciful to you and kept you from this really terrible fate. He's getting your attention, so I hope and will pray for you that you realize that He loves you exceeding much, is watching over you, and wants you to follow Him, because He does, after all, know what's best for you.

196 posted on 07/29/2012 9:54:00 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Lazamataz

Glad you dodged the bullet on this one. I would add that you should never mess around with the rules on rental insurance. If I rent a car, nobody drives it but me unless they are added to the rental contract. It doesn’t matter if I’m in the car with them. Even if it’s my wife, if she isn’t listed as a driver, she ain’t driving. (Usually I add her, but there was at least one time when I got there first and they wouldn’t add her without a copy of her license.)


197 posted on 07/29/2012 10:05:37 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Revolting cat!

That is alright. Freepers are no strangers to me.

Plus, there is a TON of good advice dispensed here. It’s up to the person need of that advice to digest the information and decide if it works for them or not.


198 posted on 07/29/2012 10:10:29 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Lazamataz

I love this. You can’t imagine how it helps to learn from others’ mistakes. I’d put mine here... TOO EMBARRASSING!

Love your posts.

Sarah


199 posted on 07/29/2012 10:18:22 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: mylife; Lazamataz

A few years back, I lent a “friend” a hundred bucks for groceries, as she was having a tough time.

I never in a million years, would have guessed she’d sell out our friendship over a hundred bucks, but she did.

She made all kinds of excuses, and then refused to return my calls.
I know right where she lives, and could confront her in person, but I chose not to, I just let the whole thing go.
She isn’t worth the effort it would take to hate her.

I do believe however, that what she did will come back to her one day.
Now, I lend money to no one.


200 posted on 07/29/2012 10:39:07 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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