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Don't EVER Do This!
Life Experience | July 29, 2012 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:51:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz

DO NOT EVER DO THIS.

I met a fellow about 7 years ago in the rooms of Narcotics Anonymous. He was getting cleaned up; so was I. We became fast friends. Soon, I was helping him out, and he was helping me.

Sometimes I loaned him money -- a lot -- and sometimes he loaned it to me. Once, I loaned him my car for some jobn interviews. Everything went well.

He contacted me recently and asked if I could rent him a car. "Why can't you rent it?" I asked. Well, he had a valid license but not a physical copy of it. Sure, I replied. I can do it.

I rented the car for him from Enterprise. He paid for the whole deal, including the extended insurance (which I demanded he do). Four days pass, the car needs to be returned or re-rented. No problem, he comes with more money and we re-rent it. Four more days pass, and I contact him. No answers. I call him all day. No answers. Now I am getting worried.

I go to where his last address was, and his girlfriend answers (also in the program of recovery) and she says he moved out some time back. She hints he's returned to using. Now I am getting REALLY worried.

I call and call and call. The next day, I go to Enterprise, and they inform me that because he is an unauthorised driver, no coverage will be afforded me under the insurance. I may be 100% civilly liable. They instruct me to report the car stolen. I call Chamblee police, and an officer comes. Police are always suspicious, and this one is too, telling me "my story does not add up" (but it did! It is what happened!) and informing me that I could and would be charged with a FELONY (Theft by Conversion) if the car is not returned by nightfall.

The guy is still not answering. I might be in SERIOUS trouble for being an idiot -- not for truly being a criminal.

The next day he answers, finally. Tells me not to panic, that the car is fine. I tell him HE and I will BOTH be charged with a felony and that we may be already. He shrugs it off ... "No big deal. I've had felonies before."

Yeah, a comment like that, he's definitely using again.

He promises to get the car to me. I wait at home, calling every fifteen minutes. Excuse after excuse on why he's not there yet. Finally, he stops answering again. Oh crap.

A day passes, I'm reaching out to my 12 step friends to locate him. One person saw him in an apartment complex. I stake it out for a while. No luck.

Another day passes. Enterprise calls me, they tell me they haven't issued a warrant yet, but this will be the final day.

So I start thinking like an addict. I was one, I know how they think. The only interest they (used to be me, too) have is their next hit. BINGO. I text him that I will offer him 100's in cash to bring the car back.

Suddenly he calls. He's willing. I tell him to meet me at my place of employment, where there are armed security guards. He pulls in, he's got 2 friends with him. Hmmm. I lure him out of the car by putting the cash on the ground. He gets out, I get in and order the friends out. The dude says, "Aren't you at least going to drive us somewhere?" Hell no. I'm in sight of armed guards right now, this is where they get out. I let them know they need to leave. I wave to the security guards, they wave back. They had no idea what was going on, but the wave convinced the hoodlums to leave.

This was the most terrifying week I have had in a long time. I was certain I was going to be jailed, with little prospect of an immediate bond, and a loss of job, and a felony accusation that my attorney told me was likely to stick.

All because I was too nice, too naive, and just plain stupid.

Don't let anything like this happen to you. I aged about 5 years.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: aa; na; recovery
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To: Lazamataz
Right in Proverbs it tells you not to put your name on someone elses debt. I'm following the instructions from now on.

I was curious, so looked it up:

Pr.11:15

He who puts up security for another will surely suffer, but whoever refuses to strike hands in pledge is safe. (NIV)

Pr.17:18

A man lacking in judgment strikes hands in pledge and puts up security for his neighbor. (NIV)

81 posted on 07/29/2012 6:41:15 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: gorush

the human race is highly overrated......


82 posted on 07/29/2012 6:42:06 PM PDT by cherry (/)
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To: Lazamataz
I did drug and alcohol counseling as a part of Viet Nam rehab program when I was in School. I waded through knee deep Bull Shit, I was a Two Tour Vite Nam Vet, they didn't know.

People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

83 posted on 07/29/2012 6:42:32 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: mass55th
I’m assuming he knows where you live? He definitely knows where you work, and perhaps the hours you work. Having worked in uniform behind bars with all sorts of felons for 25 years, I’d be worried he’d rob you while you were at work. Sorry, but being the security conscious person that I am, it’s hard for me not to think that way.

I'm taking certain precautions. I advise no one to surprise me when I'm going to my car in the morning. No surprise birthday parties. Just so everyone is safe.

There are armed guards and an elaborate system of security at work. No issues there.

84 posted on 07/29/2012 6:42:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
Wow Laz, I've been here so long, read so many of your posts and I have to say I flabbergasted.

My wife made the mistake of cosigning a loan for a "friend" at work, $2000,00 later it was paid off. A hard lesson to learn. nice guy's like you (who knew ;-D) learn the hard way .

Freegards, CTYankee.

85 posted on 07/29/2012 6:43:06 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: TheConservativeParty
Thinking of the 100 dollar bills as a lure was pure genius.

I'm not that smart to think it up. I am experienced, is all.

86 posted on 07/29/2012 6:44:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
The next day he answers, finally. Tells me not to panic, that the car is fine. I tell him HE and I will BOTH be charged with a felony and that we may be already. He shrugs it off ... “No big deal. I've had felonies before.”

...at which point I would have hit him. And not in the goatse.

87 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:38 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: wtc911
Anybody here really need to be told to never trust a junkie?

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You can't trust anyone, not even your relatives and friends. Doesn't matter if they have issues or not.

Months ago I loaned money to a friend. She and I have been friends for years. Stupid me, I didn't get anything in writing. Well, she hasn't repaid me a dime. What irks me is she has a well paying job and I'm not working. I could use the money. But all I get from her is excuses. About the only thing I can do now is distance myself from her and not make the same mistake again.

88 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:53 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Lazamataz
No worries - let some time pass. Heck, 15 years ago I loaned my friend $400 because her son found her pin number and took the house payment out of her checking account. I NEVER think about the fact that she NEVER paid me back. Do you need $400? I'll give you my friend's name.
89 posted on 07/29/2012 6:46:00 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney)
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To: Lazamataz

>> Right in Proverbs it tells you not to put your name on someone elses debt. I’m following the instructions from now on.

Good call, Laz.

The Man who created us creatures and our playground (and wrote the user’s manual for them) knows how His stuff really works. He never gives bad advice!

And just by the way — your post from a month or so ago about how and why we should forgive each other — because we’re all “God’s kids” and you wouldn’t diss one of your friend’s kids, let alone the Almighty’s — really resonated. I find it useful in my daily walk.

Sorry for your close call and glad it came out (more or less) OK.

God bless you and FRegards


90 posted on 07/29/2012 6:46:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: All
Important point:

The Hand of God was definitely protecting me. AND HE MADE SURE I KNEW IT WAS HIM, GOD, DOING IT.

There are several important lessons God wanted me to take away from this. One was to trust in Him ONLY. There are other obvious ones. There are some lessons only time will reveal.

91 posted on 07/29/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
I had the mistaken impression that the extended insurance covers it when you loan out the rental car. I heard of cases of that, but on further inspection, it's for immediate spouses and coworkers (on business related travel).

I'm glad you didn't take offense. Please mail me if you have a question about small business practices. Bear in mind I live in New Jersey. We have a permit to pay or the law against everything. Now juxtaposition intended

92 posted on 07/29/2012 6:48:01 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: Little Bill
People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

I was future gutter trash too.

Right up until I decided not to be.

93 posted on 07/29/2012 6:49:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Of course I didn’t take offense. I WAS a stupid f*&#.


94 posted on 07/29/2012 6:50:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
It was only because of my past that I knew what to do.

I think it's accurate to say, if your past were different, you probably would never have crossed paths with this good fellow in the first place, Laz.

95 posted on 07/29/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Lazamataz

If I were me, and I am, I would Thank God.

It seems he gave you exactly what you needed. No more, no less. You are very fortunate, my friend.

May ALL of us learn from our own experiences, as well as you have from this.


96 posted on 07/29/2012 6:52:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: donna

Send me your friends name. There’s still the matter of the outstanding rental bill at Enterprise. 371, if I remember the figure. LOL!


97 posted on 07/29/2012 6:52:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’ve enjoyed our phone conversations.
Interesting how many familiar names I’ve seen on this thread.


98 posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:05 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Proud to have been beat up and shot by the late Paul Gomez. RIP, 'Gnomez'.)
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To: UCANSEE2
It seems he gave you exactly what you needed. No more, no less. You are very fortunate, my friend.

Two-hours-away-from-a-felony-warrent fortunate.

God likes to be dramatic when it comes to me. He uses a 2x4 to get the idea across.

99 posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Mercat; Lazamataz
A lot of people in recovery from drugs and alcohol also need to go to Al-anon. That’s where I learned to detach from the qualifier but also be compassionate and supportive without enabling him or being taken in. Very important skills.

Mercat is right. Alanon would be a good idea.

100 posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:54 PM PDT by bad company (There are no illegal guns, just undocumented firearms.)
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