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Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey [ Suppiluliuma ]
Eurekalert ^ | Monday, July 30, 2012 | Kim Luke, U of Toronto

Posted on 07/30/2012 8:19:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv


The head and torso of the human figure, intact to just above its waist, stands approximately 1.5 meters in height, suggesting a total body length of 3.5 to four meters. The figure's face is bearded, with beautifully preserved inlaid eyes made of white and black stone, and its hair has been coiffed in an elaborate series of curls aligned in linear rows. Both arms are extended forward from the elbow, each with two arm bracelets decorated with lion heads. The figure's right hand holds a spear, and in its left is a shaft of wheat. A crescent-shaped pectoral adorns its chest. A lengthy Hieroglyphic Luwian inscription, carved in raised relief across its back, records the campaigns and accomplishments of Suppiluliuma, likely the same Patinean king who faced a Neo-Assyrian onslaught of Shalmaneser III as part of a Syrian-Hittite coalition in 858 BC.
Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey


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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; sapalulme; suppiluliuma
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Yes, it's also one of *those* topics, bigtime.
1 posted on 07/30/2012 8:20:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/30/2012 8:22:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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3 posted on 07/30/2012 8:24:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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4 posted on 07/30/2012 8:25:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Prunes, he needs prunes.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 8:25:23 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Paladin2

They dug up Ted Kennedy!


6 posted on 07/30/2012 8:25:23 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: SunkenCiv

Muppets. They’re everywhere!


7 posted on 07/30/2012 8:30:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s Twiki!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptoaCKZ0Tw


8 posted on 07/30/2012 8:47:44 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SunkenCiv

Goliath and his brothers?


9 posted on 07/30/2012 8:49:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SunkenCiv

For a brief time in 244AD, the Japanese Animators conquered Turkey....


10 posted on 07/30/2012 8:52:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

She’s a very ‘suppil’ looking lady.


11 posted on 07/30/2012 8:54:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Paladin2

I think this statue from Turkey represents an early turkey hunter. I think he was hunting from a blind. You can tell by his eyes that he’s looking at a big gobbler with a 10 inch beard. The position of his hands shows that he was holding an early Lynch turkey call, but of course, the wooden turkey call decayed away long ago. Hey Bubba! This here arkeyology shore is interestin’ stuff!


12 posted on 07/30/2012 9:05:52 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: SunkenCiv

Mr Potato Head?


13 posted on 07/30/2012 9:11:13 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Tucker39

Did he have a Rem 1100?


14 posted on 07/30/2012 9:16:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SunkenCiv
I wonder if this is close to Gobekli Tepe where there are are all these monoliths with all kinds of animals, reptiles, and dinosaurs craved into them standing in concentric circles.
15 posted on 07/30/2012 10:49:30 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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Fiber, things may have turned out differently if he had ingested more Fiber.. yep


16 posted on 07/30/2012 10:56:21 PM PDT by carlo3b (Home, is where the heart is..)
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To: SunkenCiv

First: That’s not hair on its head. That’s a helmet of snails, obviously.

Second: The surprised look in its eyes points to it being a training aid for proctologists of that period.

Third: The orange belts around head and trunk point to this being a modern reproduction.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 12:54:16 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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18 posted on 07/31/2012 1:38:53 AM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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19 posted on 07/31/2012 1:43:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I love the way he accessorized with those orange ribbons.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 1:55:19 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Vendome

The annoying short robot with the pageboy head from the Buck Rogers show, I think Buck was the overweight version of the 6 million dollar man ....


21 posted on 07/31/2012 2:07:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SunkenCiv

...an inscription in raised relief- that’s interesting.


22 posted on 07/31/2012 2:11:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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23 posted on 07/31/2012 7:31:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv
"A crescent-shaped pectoral adorns its chest"

Very much liek an officers' gorgets of later years. Fascinating!


24 posted on 07/31/2012 7:37:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv

He looks very surprised at his good fortune. [smiles]


25 posted on 07/31/2012 11:10:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SunkenCiv

The Assyrians were brutal SOB’s, but it worked for them a long time.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 12:44:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I was struck at first by the look of the eyes, which are similar to those on the statues of Easter Island (not now, how they *used* to look, for the most part the eyes have fallen off or been broken off the moai). Then it struck me, uh, everyone’s eyes look mighty similar across the globe, so... :’)


27 posted on 07/31/2012 3:57:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Do you think the sculptures are life-sized?


28 posted on 07/31/2012 4:02:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: colorado tanker

Yes indeed. They marched against cities and towns over a wider swath of the Earth than anyone who’d come before them, there’s even evidence that they conquered Egypt, then had their first collapse (end of the Akkadian period), then reemerged in the more familiar, Old Testament form. When the end came at Nineveh it must have shaken the Middle East (figuratively).

http://www.varchive.org/tac/end.htm

[snip] For many years the fortunes of war changed camps. Then Nabopolassar and Cyaxares, the Mede, brought the Scythians over to their side. Their armies advanced from three sides against Nineveh. In August of the year -612 The dam on the Tigris was breached, and Nineveh was stormed. In a single night the city that was the splendor of its epoch went up in flames, and the centuries-old empire that ceaselessly carried sword and fire to the four quarters of the ancient world — as far as Elam and Lydia, Sarmatia and Ethiopia — ceased to exist forever. [snip]


29 posted on 07/31/2012 4:03:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Some American "tourists" visiting a restored gate at Ninevah.


30 posted on 07/31/2012 4:23:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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They appear to be colossal (i.e., more than life-sized), which is often the case in sculpture, particularly when the subject is a ruler or other politician.


31 posted on 07/31/2012 4:31:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Ancient lawn jockey.


32 posted on 07/31/2012 4:36:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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BEEDEEBEEDEEBEEDEEBEEDEEBEEDEEBEEDEE

33 posted on 07/31/2012 4:39:53 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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Man, that’s some bad penis-head. Almost makes the young Bruce Jenner, Luke Skywalker, and Dorothy Hamill look normal.


34 posted on 07/31/2012 4:48:29 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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35 posted on 07/31/2012 4:48:50 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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36 posted on 07/31/2012 4:49:06 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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from Ages In Chaos, "The el-Amarna Letters (concluded)" [Suppiluliuma boldface added]
[pp 310-311]
...shells prepared for the extraction of dye were found there. A written order to tint three loads of wool also came to light.

Some time before his expulsion Nikmed, together with Suppiluliuma, a contemporary city king, contributed to the goddess of the city of Arne. We shall come across these names in the annals of Shalmaneser, too.

Shalmaneser III Is Opposed by a Syrian Coalition,
under Biridri (Biridia), the Commandant of Megiddo


Shalmaneser relates that in his sixth year, two years after he drove King Nikdem into the sea, a prince named Biridri, helped by a coalition of twelve princes, opposed him at Karkar. [in northern Syria] Among Biridri's allies were Ahab, the prince of Israel ("with two thousand chariots and ten thousand warriors"), the city of Irqata (no prince is named), the prince of Arvad, Matinu-Bali, the prince of Usa (not named), and the prince of Siana, Adunu-Bali.

The inscription of Shalmaneser does not say that the allied princes, Ahab among them, participated personally in the battle of Karkar; it merely states: "These twelve kings he [Biridri] brought to his support." We meet some of the same princes in the el-Amarna letters. They wrote to the pharaoh that they were holding their garrisons in readiness to take a stand against the invading king of Hatti, and some of them -- from northern Syria, which was more immediately threatened than Palestine -- might have taken part personally in the battle.

The city of Irqata wrote to the pharaoh:
LETTER 100: Thus saith Irqata and the people of its inheritance. . . Let the heart of the long, the lord, know that we protect Irqata for him. ... Let the breath of the king not depart from us. We have closed the gate until the breath of the king comes to us. Powerful is the hostility against us, very powerful indeed.
In a letter from Rib-Addi 2 it is reported: "Aduna of Irqata, mercenaries have killed." In the same letter he wrote about the wars of the king of Hatti in the northeast. Prince Aduni of Siana of Shalmaneser's inscriptions was probably Aduna "of -- and of Irqata" of the el-Amarna letters. THE EL-AMARNA LETTERS (CONCLUDED) AGES IN CHAOS
[pp 320-321]
Who Is the Dreaded "King of Hatti"
of the el-Amarna Correspondence?


The king of Hatti, always feared and often mentioned in the letters of the Syrian princes, might well have been one of the correspondents of the el-Amarna collection. Although in continued conflict with Egypt, he never made open war against the pharaoh; at least the pharaoh never sent a strong army to the assistance of his Syrian vassals. It is probable, therefore, that they exchanged letters. It is generally accepted that Suppiluliuma, of whom only one very amiable letter is preserved, was the feared king of Hatti. A number of generations later another Suppiluliuma was "a king of Hatti" and therefore it appeared reasonable that Suppiluliuma of the el-Amarna period also had been a great king of Hatti.

Actually, in the time of Shalmaneser III (in the ninth century) there lived a prince called Suppiluliuma (Sapalulme), to whom Shalmaneser referred in his annals. He could have been the author of the letter in the el-Amarna collection signed with his name.

In a short and broken text from Ugarit referring to donations made to the goddess of the city of Arne, Prince Nikmed of Ugarit-Ras Shamra as well as Suppiluliuma are mentioned. Apparently Nikmed and Suppiluliuma, too, donated to the goddess of Arne. Arne was not far from Ugarit and was captured by Shalmaneser III in one of his campaigns. "Against the cities of Arame (personal name) I drew near. Arne his royal city I captured."

Besides establishing the identity of Shalmaneser III and the king of Hatti, the invader from the north at the time of the el-Amarna correspondence, there is a basis for suggesting an identification of the king of Hatti as one of the el-Amarna correspondents. We have already shown that he is mentioned in the letters of the king of Tyre by the name of Shalmaiati; but no letter is signed with this name.


37 posted on 07/31/2012 7:44:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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the ever-popular Gudea of Lagash, from about 1200 years before this image of Suppiluliuma:
Google

38 posted on 07/31/2012 7:48:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Wow. The archaeologists have been busy collecting his images.


39 posted on 07/31/2012 9:07:27 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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Yeah that artists from different lo-cals and time periods tend to see human face the same way. But what would Giorgio A. Tsoukalos think?


40 posted on 07/31/2012 9:33:11 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

For me I imagen many of the similarities are do to the materials and the limitation of the tools they are working with. Sculpture takes a lot of finesse to get it close to what your trying to depict. Plus trying to do a monolithic sculpture is going to show a lot of errors so it is going to take a lot more work and a lot longer.

Or if it is ancient aliens then they just beam it down and charge the locals in gold per copy.


41 posted on 07/31/2012 9:47:13 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

Has Gudea ever been to Google ?


42 posted on 08/01/2012 12:01:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Is that a wife beater t-shirt, or is he wearing suspenders?


43 posted on 08/01/2012 12:03:49 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: bert

I see he’s wearing an Easter Hat.


44 posted on 08/01/2012 12:07:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: Captain Beyond

Why did they build those statues on Easter Island ?


45 posted on 08/01/2012 12:14:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Layer after layer of civilization building upon the remains of civilization. There is plenty to find, but I would bet there was even more than we can begin to imagine, and much more than we can find.

What amazes me most about these ancient statues is the ability of the artist to carve these giant images out of solid rock.

I think the limit to human ability is an imaginary wall we build as we grow. I think modern man builds the wall extremely high, compared to our ancient cousins.


46 posted on 08/01/2012 12:34:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To be honest no one really knows. Most theories say they were for some type of religious worship and that they embodied the spirit after death. It must have been one heavy duty popular religion because they are around 900 of these statues on the island finished and unfinished. Some weighing in at 80 tons and 35 feet high. The average is like 15 feet tall and weighing in at 14 tons.

So either these statues were really hot sellers on their version of a Religious Polynesian QVC channel, or it was a bunch of manic, acid dropping, artists that were perfectionists and in their minds could not get it right so they had to keep starting over, or they could have suffered from OCD or short term memory lost and was forced to keep making the same statue over and over each day, or some type of massive Kool-Aide cult that was into really big stone heads, or maybe the place was run by a Stone Quarry Union thugs and forced it’s workers to keep turning out tons of these statues to keep getting government kick-back money.

Amother theory is that Easter Island, since it is basically sitting on three extinct volcanoes, is that is part of much larger land mass that sunk due to some catastrophism and this was the stone quarry that was used for a much larger population. Then there is the theory that an ice age glacier wipes it out leaving only Easter Island as the highest peak.

Then there are those from that Ancient Astronaut theory that say the statues represent a geodetic marker for an astronomical observatory from some lost civilization and it is as a marker for visitors from other planets.

So there you go. It is mainly a big mystery as to why they were built but it is a very impressive mystery as to how they made them and moved them around the island. Hope this is helpfully in some way. There are lots of good books on it on Amazon. I have like 6 on it because it has always facanated me.


47 posted on 08/01/2012 1:42:42 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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Or it could have been one those whacked out business ideas where some guys sees Egypt and goes “Wow if we could make a bunch really big statues and ship around the world we could make a millions easy.” Then he finds out that he on the tail end of the Statue bubble market and is bankrupt all of sudden and what is left is an island full of statues with no place to go. Or it was a really bad idea for shipping drugs to another country or planet. Thinking “Like wow man no one is going to search a monolithic statue for our cocaine stash.”
48 posted on 08/01/2012 1:59:30 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting the Ages of Chaos letters. Never read them before very interesting. So thanks for the extra info.


49 posted on 08/01/2012 2:07:16 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

My modest Velikovsky collection (hardbacks — some with the original dust jackets)

Worlds in Collision
Ages in Chaos
Earth In Upheaval
Peoples of the Sea


50 posted on 08/01/2012 8:09:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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